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Re: Move 31..

Post by Spock »

I'm going to go for Bc3
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gerold
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Re: Move 31..

Post by gerold »

Steve B wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:[d]r5k1/3p3p/2b1prp1/q7/1bP2BQP/1P6/2B1RPP1/3R2K1 b
The voting with about 12 hours to go (as i write)
Bc5-1
Bc3-2

Regards
Steve
I vote for Bc5.

Best,

Gerold.
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Steve B
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Re: Move 31..

Post by Steve B »

gerold wrote:
Steve B wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:[d]r5k1/3p3p/2b1prp1/q7/1bP2BQP/1P6/2B1RPP1/3R2K1 b
The voting with about 12 hours to go (as i write)
Bc5-1
Bc3-2

Regards
Steve
I vote for Bc5.

Best,

Gerold.
So that makes it with 9 hours to TC (as i write)...
Bc3-3
Bc5-2


Nother Horse Race Regards
Steve
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playjunior
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Re: Move 31..

Post by playjunior »

Steve, btw... thanks for doing this, this is a really good idea.
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Steve B
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Re: Move 31..

Post by Steve B »

playjunior wrote:Steve, btw... thanks for doing this, this is a really good idea.
Thanks Andranik
very happy you are enjoying the game ..as i hope all of the other participants and viewers are
Best Regards
Steve
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Matthias Gemuh
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Re: Move 31..

Post by Matthias Gemuh »

Matthias Gemuh wrote:My vote : 31 ... Bc3

Rook f6 must be made able to stay there, if white still has a dark square bishop. Bc3 is a defensive alternative to the offensive Bc5.
How else can white's looming Be5 be answered ?

Matthias.
correction !

My vote : 31 ... Bc5

... switching from boring defence to attack and excitement :wink:

Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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Steve B
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Re: Move 31..

Post by Steve B »

Matthias Gemuh wrote:
My vote : 31 ... Bc5

... switching from boring defence to attack and excitement :wink:

Matthias.

And the pendulum swings to ..
Bc5-3
Bc3-2

6.5 Hours to TC Regards
Steve
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Uri Blass
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Re: Move 31..

Post by Uri Blass »

Today males are weak in chess relative to females and
black seems to lose the game because of not consulting with some female and now it seems to be too late.

For the record here is the opinion of the female that I asked
1.58/17 for white.

New game - Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit, 120'/40+120'/40+120'/40
[d]r5k1/3p3p/2b1prp1/q7/1bP2BQP/1P6/2B1RPP1/3R2K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit :

37...Bb4-c5
² (0.60) Depth: 2 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c5
² (0.68) Depth: 3 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c5
± (0.87) Depth: 4 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c3
± (0.76) Depth: 4 00:00:00
37...Rf6-f7
± (0.71) Depth: 4 00:00:00
37...Rf6-f7 38.f2-f3
± (0.78) Depth: 5 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5
± (0.77) Depth: 5 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.h4-h5
± (0.78) Depth: 6 00:00:00 7kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.h4-h5
± (0.78) Depth: 7 00:00:00 9kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.Bf4-d6 Bc5xd6
± (0.85) Depth: 8 00:00:00 15kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.Bf4-d6 Bc5xd6 40.Qg5xa5 Ra8xa5 41.Rd1xd6 Rf7-f4 42.g2-g3
± (0.96) Depth: 9 00:00:02 52kN
37...Bb4-c3 38.Bf4-d6 Rf6-f7 39.f2-f3 Bc6-b7 40.Qg4-g5 Qa5-b6+
± (1.00) Depth: 10 00:00:10 263kN
37...Bb4-c3 38.Bf4-d6 Rf6-f7 39.f2-f3 Bc6-b7 40.Qg4-g5 Qa5-b6+ 41.Qg5-c5 Qb6xc5+
± (0.94) Depth: 11 00:00:13 323kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7
± (1.05) Depth: 12 00:00:33 804kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7
± (1.20) Depth: 13 00:00:51 1368kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.Bf4-e5 Qa5-d8 40.Qg5xd8+ Ra8xd8 41.Be5-d6 Bc5xd6 42.Rd1xd6 Rd8-b8 43.Kg1-h2 Rf7-f8 44.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 45.Kh2-g3 Rb8-b4 46.Kg3-g4
± (1.14) Depth: 14 00:01:49 2970kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.Bf4-e5 Qa5-d8 40.Qg5xd8+ Ra8xd8 41.Be5-d6 Bc5xd6 42.Rd1xd6 Rd8-b8 43.Kg1-h2 Rf7-f8 44.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 45.Kh2-g3 Rb8-b4 46.Kg3-g4 Kf7-f6
± (1.11) Depth: 15 00:03:54 6692kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.h4-h5 Ra8-f8 39.Bf4-g3
± (1.15) Depth: 16 00:06:42 11040kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.h4-h5 Ra8-f8 39.Bf4-g3 Rf8-f7 40.h5xg6 h7xg6 41.Rd1-f1 Qa5-b4 42.Qg4-g5 Bc5-d4 43.Rf1-d1 Qb4-c5 44.Qg5xc5 Bd4xc5 45.Rd1-d2 Bc5-b4 46.Rd2-d4 Bb4-c5 47.Rd4-g4 Kg8-f8 48.Bc2-b1 e6-e5 49.Rg4xg6 Rf6xg6 50.Bb1xg6 Rf7-g7 51.Re2xe5 Bc5xf2+ 52.Kg1xf2 Rg7xg6
+- (1.58) Depth: 17 00:53:28 85744kN

(so k, 10.08.2009)
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Christopher Conkie
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Re: Move 31..

Post by Christopher Conkie »

playjunior wrote:
Christopher Conkie wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:My vote : 31 ... Bc3

Rook f6 must be made able to stay there, if white still has a dark square bishop. Bc3 is a defensive alternative to the offensive Bc5.
How else can white's looming Be5 be answered ?

Matthias.
Bc5

Let me show you a line or two Matthias.

Bc5 h5 Raf8 Bg3 R8f7 hxg6 hxg6 Rf1 Qb4 Bh4

and.......

Bc5 h5 Raf8 Bg3 R8f7 hxg6 hxg6 b4

Both these lines are very nice for us and quite likely.

For sure it's Bc5 for me.

Christopher
Funny, the first line after Rf1 looks so dead lost to me.

I vote for Bc3
Bc5 h5 Raf8 Bg3 R8f7 hxg6 hxg6 Rf1 Qb4 Bh4 Rf4 Qg3 Bd6 Rd1 Qc5

:)

That takes it a little further.

Christopher
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Steve B
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Re: Move 31..

Post by Steve B »

Uri Blass wrote:Today males are weak in chess relative to females and
black seems to lose the game because of not consulting with some female and now it seems to be too late.

For the record here is the opinion of the female that I asked
1.58/17 for white.

New game - Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit, 120'/40+120'/40+120'/40
[d]r5k1/3p3p/2b1prp1/q7/1bP2BQP/1P6/2B1RPP1/3R2K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit :

37...Bb4-c5
² (0.60) Depth: 2 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c5
² (0.68) Depth: 3 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c5
± (0.87) Depth: 4 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c3
± (0.76) Depth: 4 00:00:00
37...Rf6-f7
± (0.71) Depth: 4 00:00:00
37...Rf6-f7 38.f2-f3
± (0.78) Depth: 5 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5
± (0.77) Depth: 5 00:00:00
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.h4-h5
± (0.78) Depth: 6 00:00:00 7kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.h4-h5
± (0.78) Depth: 7 00:00:00 9kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.Bf4-d6 Bc5xd6
± (0.85) Depth: 8 00:00:00 15kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.Bf4-d6 Bc5xd6 40.Qg5xa5 Ra8xa5 41.Rd1xd6 Rf7-f4 42.g2-g3
± (0.96) Depth: 9 00:00:02 52kN
37...Bb4-c3 38.Bf4-d6 Rf6-f7 39.f2-f3 Bc6-b7 40.Qg4-g5 Qa5-b6+
± (1.00) Depth: 10 00:00:10 263kN
37...Bb4-c3 38.Bf4-d6 Rf6-f7 39.f2-f3 Bc6-b7 40.Qg4-g5 Qa5-b6+ 41.Qg5-c5 Qb6xc5+
± (0.94) Depth: 11 00:00:13 323kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7
± (1.05) Depth: 12 00:00:33 804kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7
± (1.20) Depth: 13 00:00:51 1368kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.Bf4-e5 Qa5-d8 40.Qg5xd8+ Ra8xd8 41.Be5-d6 Bc5xd6 42.Rd1xd6 Rd8-b8 43.Kg1-h2 Rf7-f8 44.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 45.Kh2-g3 Rb8-b4 46.Kg3-g4
± (1.14) Depth: 14 00:01:49 2970kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.Qg4-g5 Rf6-f7 39.Bf4-e5 Qa5-d8 40.Qg5xd8+ Ra8xd8 41.Be5-d6 Bc5xd6 42.Rd1xd6 Rd8-b8 43.Kg1-h2 Rf7-f8 44.f2-f3 Kg8-f7 45.Kh2-g3 Rb8-b4 46.Kg3-g4 Kf7-f6
± (1.11) Depth: 15 00:03:54 6692kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.h4-h5 Ra8-f8 39.Bf4-g3
± (1.15) Depth: 16 00:06:42 11040kN
37...Bb4-c5 38.h4-h5 Ra8-f8 39.Bf4-g3 Rf8-f7 40.h5xg6 h7xg6 41.Rd1-f1 Qa5-b4 42.Qg4-g5 Bc5-d4 43.Rf1-d1 Qb4-c5 44.Qg5xc5 Bd4xc5 45.Rd1-d2 Bc5-b4 46.Rd2-d4 Bb4-c5 47.Rd4-g4 Kg8-f8 48.Bc2-b1 e6-e5 49.Rg4xg6 Rf6xg6 50.Bb1xg6 Rf7-g7 51.Re2xe5 Bc5xf2+ 52.Kg1xf2 Rg7xg6
+- (1.58) Depth: 17 00:53:28 85744kN

(so k, 10.08.2009)
Im sorry Uri but i do not know if you are placing a vote ?
is there a move in there you are voting for?
Squinting Regards
Steve
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