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Move 35..

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R30 Plays the Super Solid
35.Rf1

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Re: Move 35..

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[d] 6k1/3p1r2/2b1prp1/q1b5/2P3Q1/1P4B1/2B1RPP1/5RK1 b
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Re: Move 35..

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As Chris says, Qb4 is next I guess. Unless something else come along to change my mind, that is my vote
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Re: Move 35..

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Spock wrote:As Chris says, Qb4 is next I guess. Unless something else come along to change my mind, that is my vote
You sound very flexible :D .
At least we have one vote now.
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Re: Move 35..

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:
Spock wrote:As Chris says, Qb4 is next I guess. Unless something else come along to change my mind, that is my vote
You sound very flexible :D .
At least we have one vote now.
Qb4

I agree with Ray.....

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Re: Move 35..

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Why is Qb4 a good move? What is difference with Qb6 for example?
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Re: Move 35..

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tano-urayoan wrote:Why is Qb4 a good move? What is difference with Qb6 for example?
Qb4 protects the bishop on c5 which will go to e7 eventually.

Qb6 is bad because it allows Be5 at which point we are probably dead.

After Be5, Rf4 (which will be our equalising move) is not possible.

Qb4 encourages Bh4 (why? because it's a pawn/piece grabber - remember what was said about the edges of the board) and allows us to play Rf4. It also will eventually encourage a bad swap of bishops on e7.

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Re: Move 35..

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My vote : 35 ... Qb4

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Re: Move 35..

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Christopher Conkie wrote:
tano-urayoan wrote:Why is Qb4 a good move? What is difference with Qb6 for example?
Qb4 protects the bishop on c5 which will go to e7 eventually.

Qb6 is bad because it allows Be5 at which point we are probably dead.

After Be5, Rf4 (which will be our equalising move) is not possible.

Qb4 encourages Bh4 (why? because it's a pawn/piece grabber - remember what was said about the edges of the board) and allows us to play Rf4. It also will eventually encourage a bad swap of bishops on e7.

Christopher
It is IMO a bad idea to play a move because we think we know the computer will make a mistake. What if it doesn't go Bh4? What is the Queen doing on b4?
I didn't understand why the bishop needs protection or how are we going to swap if white doesn't play Bh4. Also, what if ...Qb4 Be5?

Qb4 looks to me like a computer move, maybe it is justified by some tactics but the idea is not clear.

And our position is really bad. Our problem is that we have a weakness on g6 now, black squares are weak and we have no targets to attack.
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Re: Move 35..

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playjunior wrote: It is IMO a bad idea to play a move because we think we know the computer will make a mistake.
Yes, that is very true - and the Tasc is very unlikely to make a mistake. We are in a bad position, I think we will probably lose this match. I'll look at it again