CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:19.Bg4

... a deadly move.

Matthias.
After Bg4, black can answer Nf7 and get an almost equal position. I think the immediate Ne3 is stronger and lets us keep consistent with the plan started by e4.

So I vote for Ne3.

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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

Post by Spock »

Now a majority to Ne3, subject to Christopher's confirmation

Ne3 - Gerold, Christopher, Steve, Sven
Bg4 - Graham, Andranik, Matthias
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

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playjunior wrote:Agree with Graham, that weird-looking g7-g5 is unpleasant. Also to me it feels somehow uncomfortable to play g2-g3 without putting the King on g2, I mean black can threaten to take on h3/sacrifice on g3 at any moment and we probably don't want that. Meanwhile, we probably cannot afford g3 and Kg2.

Regarding Ne3 and a5, black gets the b6 square for the knight or the bishop. OK, a7 is weak, but are we really going to go after it? If yes, why don't we prepare it thoroughly before pushing? The point is black has absolutely no space, and we can manoeuvre before we actually execute the break.

As for the move, I'd go with Graham for Bg4 . After this, probably, we shouldn't play a5 because after putting the knight on b6 we probably have to exchange the white bishops which we don't want to do because at the moment any exchange favours black.
You are right any exchange in the middle will give BL the advan.
BL plays Ng6-f7 leaving Blacks Bc7 ready to attack White King,
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

Post by Graham Banks »

Sven Schüle wrote: After Bg4, black can answer Nf7 and get an almost equal position.

Sven
After more analysis, Bg4 isn't as dangerous as I thought it might be. I'm changing my vote to 19.Ne3.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

Post by swami »

a5!

* axb5 and weaken the b6 pawn (this becomes a backward pawn), and Queen gets the 'a' open file.
* If bxa5, Black will have two isolated on 'c' and 'a' file.

Ne3 doesn't do anything at the moment with regards to undermining the Black's positional structure. Can't occupy the f5 post, Knight can be driven away via g6.

I'm sorry if my vote for this move doesn't help to resolve a tie in case some people change votes and result is another tie.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

Post by tano-urayoan »

g4 with attack
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

Post by swami »

tano-urayoan wrote:g4 with attack
I thought of that but I realized that g4 permanently weakens dark squares along the h2-b8 diagonal after Nf7. f4 square will land itself up in black's control.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

Post by Christopher Conkie »

Graham Banks wrote:
Spock wrote:About another 12 hrs to go, I think we have

Ne3 - Gerold, Christopher, Steve
Bg4 - Graham, Andranik, Matthias
I don't think that Christopher actually voted. Might pay to check.
Ne3
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

Post by gerold »

Graham Banks wrote:
Sven Schüle wrote: After Bg4, black can answer Nf7 and get an almost equal position.

Sven
After more analysis, Bg4 isn't as dangerous as I thought it might be. I'm changing my vote to 19.Ne3.
Looking good Graham.

Best.
Gerold.
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Re: CCC Forum vs BigLion chess960

Post by Steve B »

swami wrote:a5!

* axb5 and weaken the b6 pawn (this becomes a backward pawn), and Queen gets the 'a' open file.
* If bxa5, Black will have two isolated on 'c' and 'a' file.
Sounds Familiar
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while i certainly have no objection to you acting as the official "tie breaker" for the forum team..it is important that you actually break a tie when you do vote

i would like to to suggest that as an additional tie breaker we consider the services of this well known Super Gm who i am told would make himself available to offer this service for a modest fee:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N ... 922170604/

Regards From The A File
Steve