Fritz 12 Analysis Request

[Arsha Mahdavi]

Fritz 11 was not tactically good as its predecessor “the 10th version”. At one time, just after the release of “Deep Fritz 11” I requested the output analysis of this new engine with the following diagram:

[d]2r1r3/pp2bp1k/4qBp1/n2pPpQp/3P4/4R3/P1PN1PPP/1R4K1 w - - 0 25

So I repeat (updating) my solicitation: I would be very thankful if someone could give the output analysis of this new Fritz 12 from the above position. How much time it would take for Fritz 12 to find move Rh3! here?

-- From the evidences I can state that this new Fritz 12 is basically the old “Deep Fritz 11” with disabled SMP code and a few Elo improvements. Or there are counter examples? …

Thanks In Advance.

[perejaslav]

2r1r3/pp2bp1k/4qBp1/n2pPpQp/3P4/4R3/P1PN1PPP/1R4K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 12:

1. (0.08): 1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Ree1 Qc6 4.Nf3 Bh6 5.Ng5+ Bxg5 6.Bxg5 Nc4 7.Qd3 Qd7 8.f3 Re6 9.Re2 Kg8 10.Rb3
2. (0.07): 1.Rh3 Bf8 2.Nb3 Nxb3 3.Rhxb3 b6 4.c3 Rc4 5.Qe3 Bh6 6.Qd3 Bg7 7.Bxg7 Kxg7 8.Rb4 Rxb4 9.cxb4 Rc8
3. (0.00): 1.Nf3 Rxc2 2.Qg3 Kg8 3.Ng5 Qc6 4.e6 fxe6 5.Nxe6 Kh7 6.Ng5+ Kg8

After reaching depth=20 in 6 minutes of analysis.

[perejaslav]

Analysis by Fritz 12:

1.c3 Bf8 2.f4 Bh6 3.Qh4 Qd7 4.Qg3 Kg8 5.Nb3 Nc4 6.Nc5
(0.35) 11/25 00:00:00 577тП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Bg7 3.Qh4 b6 4.h3 Nc4 5.Nxc4 Rxc4 6.Bxg7 Kxg7 7.Qg5 Qd7 8.Qf6+
(0.29) 12/29 00:00:00 1141тП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Bh6 3.f4 Bg7 4.Bxg7 Kxg7 5.Qg5 b6 6.Rg3 Kg8 7.Rh3 Nc4 8.Nxc4
(0.25) 13/30 00:00:01 2400тП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Bg7 3.Qh4 Qd7 4.Bxg7 Kxg7 5.Qf6+ Kg8 6.Rg3 Rc6 7.Qg5 a6 8.h3 b5
(0.21) 14/34 00:00:02 5187тП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.f4 Bg7 4.Bxg7 Kxg7 5.Qg5 Kh7 6.Qh4 Kg8 7.Rg3 Re6 8.Qg5 Nc6
(0.17) 15/37 00:00:04 10853тП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.f4 Bg7 4.Bxg7 Kxg7 5.Qg5 Kh7 6.Qh4 Kg8 7.Rg3 Re6 8.Qg5 b6
(0.11) 16/38 00:00:10 22689тП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.f4 Bg7 4.Bxg7 Kxg7 5.Qg5 Kh7 6.Rb2 Re6 7.Rb4 Kg8 8.Rg3 Nc6 9.Rb1 b6
(0.11) 17/39 00:00:16 36115тП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Ree1 Qc6 4.Rec1 b6 5.Bg5 Kg8 6.h3 Nc4 7.Nxc4 Qxc4 8.Rc2 Bg7 9.Qf3 Re6 10.Re2
(0.07) 18/40 00:00:38 84917тП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Ree1 b6 4.Bg5 Bh6 5.Bxh6 Kxh6 6.Qe3+ Kg7 7.Rb4 Kg8 8.h3 f4 9.Qxf4 Rxc3 10.Nf3
(0.08) 19/42 00:01:26 191мП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Qd7 3.Ree1 b6 4.Bg5 Bh6 5.Bxh6 Kxh6 6.Nf1 Kg7 7.Ne3 Nc4 8.Qg5 Kg8 9.h3 Na5 10.Rec1
(0.06) 20/44 00:02:33 339мП
1.c3 Bf8 2.Qg3 Bh6 3.Bg5 Bxg5 4.Qxg5 b6 5.Qf4 Qe7 6.Qf3 Qd7 7.h3 Nc4 8.Nxc4 Rxc4 9.Rb4
(0.05) 21/46 00:05:55 790мП
1.Rh3 Bxf6 2.exf6 Kg8 3.Rxh5 Qxf6 4.Qxf6 gxh5 5.Qxf5 b6 6.Nf3 Nc4 7.Qxd5 Re6 8.Qxh5 Rce8 9.d5
(10.83) 21/50 00:08:23 1155мП
1.Rh3 Bxf6 2.exf6 Kg8 3.Rxh5 Qxf6 4.Qxf6 gxh5 5.Qxf5 b6 6.Nf3 Nc4 7.Qxd5 Re6 8.Qxh5 Rce8 9.d5
(10.98) 22/47 00:09:23 1300мП
1.Rh3 Bxf6 2.exf6 Kg8 3.Rxh5 Qxf6 4.Qxf6 gxh5 5.Qxf5 b6 6.Nf3 Nc4 7.Qxd5 Re7 8.Qxh5 Rce8 9.d5
(11.06) 23/51 00:11:11 1557мП
1.Rh3 Bxf6 2.exf6 Kg8 3.Rxh5 Qxf6 4.Qxf6 gxh5 5.Nf3 Re6 6.Qxf5 Rce8 7.h4 Rh6 8.Ng5 Rf8 9.Qxd5 b6 10.Re1 Rf6
(11.58) 24/54 00:16:34 2329мП

He found it finally!!!
Other engines do it almost instantly...

[Le Fou numerique]

Hi,

Nouvelle partie
2r1r3/pp2bp1k/4qBp1/n2pPpQp/3P4/4R3/P1PN1PPP/1R4K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 12:

1. = (0.13): 25.Th3 Ff8 26.Cb3 Cxb3 27.Thxb3 b6 28.c3 Fh6 29.Dg3 Fg7 30.Fxg7 Rxg7 31.Te1 Tc4 32.h3 Tec8 33.De3 De7
2. = (0.11): 25.c3 Ff8 26.Dg3 Dd7 27.f4 Rg8 28.Dg5 Rh7 29.Tb2 Da4 30.Dg3 Fg7 31.Df3 Dc6
3. = (-0.03): 25.Tb2 Fxf6 26.exf6 Da6 27.Cf1 Te6 28.Txe6 Dxe6 29.Ce3 b6 30.h3 Cc4 31.Tb3 Cd2 32.Cxf5 Dxf5 33.Dxd2 Dxf6
4. = (-0.12): 25.Fxe7 Dxe7 26.Dxe7 Txe7 27.Ta3 b6 28.c3 Tec7 29.Tc1 g5 30.g3 Rg6 31.Rg2 Te8 32.Tb1 f6 33.f4
5. = (-0.18): 25.Tc1 Ff8 26.Dg3 Db6 27.Cf3 Fh6 28.Fg5 Fg7 29.Ff4 Rg8 30.Tee1 Cc4 31.Tb1 Dc6 32.e6 Txe6 33.Txe6

Regards,
Patrick

[Kurt Utzinger]

He found it finally!!!
Other engines do it almost instantly...

That's true. Here the output of Deep Shredder Linux 12 on 4xQ600 2.4 GHz

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2r1r3/pp2bp1k/4qBp1/n2pPpQp/3P4/4R3/P1PN1PPP/1R4K1 w - - 0 25

Deep Shredder 12 

+- (+8.61)	14/14	25.Th3(1/49)	1562 kn/s

25.Th3 Lxf6 26.exf6 Kg8 27.Txh5 Dxf6 28.Dxf6 gxh5 29.Dg5+ Kf8 30.Dxh5 f4 31.Dxd5 b6 32.Dh5 Kg8 33.Df5 Tc7 34.Tc1
0:07	13/42

[Engin]

Fritz 12 ??

i think it is only the Fritz 11 engine in the new GUI inside ?

[Le Fou numerique]

Fritz 12 ??

i think it is only the Fritz 11 engine in the new GUI inside ?

Hi Engin,

Don't care what somebody write.

There is a Fritz 12 engine on the Fritz 12 DVD.

And he found Rb3 in 2s.

Regards,
Patrick

[Arsha Mahdavi]

Thank you all for replying.

[yanquis1972]

well, did fritz 12 find it in 2 seconds or 8 minutes?? someone is not telling the truth!

[Arsha Mahdavi]

well, did fritz 12 find it in 2 seconds or 8 minutes?? someone is not telling the truth!

Probably Fritz 12 can show this move in MultiPV mode but not instantly with a score of +- Rh3!