Whats the best move

[AdminX]

It's a draw...but why do you think Bf5 will win?

Hi Terry,

To be honest, I'm not sure that it is winning but, I do believe it offers the best winning chances. Plus I do like the fact that from Bf5 the bishop covers the possible queening square c8. The point I really wanted to make was that the cute move c5 does not work, even thou it looks winning. I know I as a human would have played it in a instant falsely believing it to be a cute and winning move. Hell even Kxe5 looks sound, if not also a little complex to me. Bf5 just seems to be a clearer path to the win.

[AdminX]

It's a draw...but why do you think Bf5 will win?

can we paleese use the reply option here instead of the quote feature?
Teds post so far takes the prize for longest scrolling post of the year


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Steve

Hi Steve,

On behalf of all long scrolling post everywhere, I am truly honored.

Thank You!

[AdminX]

Here is analysis by Stockfish 1.5.1

Done on a Q9000 @2 GHz with 3656 Hash

Analysis by Stockfish 1.5.1 JA 64bit:

60.Kxe5 f6+ 61.Kd4 Ke7 62.c5 Ra2 63.d6+ Kd7 64.Kd5 Rd2+ 65.Kc4 Ra2 66.Bf5+ Kc6 67.Kb4
+/= (0.48) Depth: 6 00:00:01 6kN
+/= (0.44) Depth: 11 00:00:02 231kN

60.Bf5 Rf2 61.Kxe5 Ke7 62.c5 Re2+ 63.Kd4 Rd2+ 64.Kc4 Rf2 65.Bd3 Rh2 66.a5 Rh4+ 67.Kc3 Rxh5 68.Kd4 g6
+/= (0.60 !) Depth: 11 00:00:02 282kN
+/- (0.88) Depth: 13 00:00:02 599kN

60.Bh7 g6 61.hxg6 f5 62.Ke6 Kg7 63.Kxf5 e4 64.a5 e3 65.Kf4 Rc2 66.Kxe3 Rxc4 67.d6 Rc6 68.d7 Rd6 69.a6 Rxd7 70.Ke4 Kf6
+/- (1.17) Depth: 13 00:00:02 1197kN
= (0.16) Depth: 17 00:00:05 9478kN

60.Bf5 g6 61.hxg6 fxg6 62.Bxg6 Kg7 63.Bh5 Rh2 64.Bf3 Rh4 65.Kxe5 Rxc4 66.a5 Ra4
+/= (0.36) Depth: 17 00:00:05 12321kN
= (0.24 --) Depth: 23 00:00:53 204mN

60.Kxe5 f6+ 61.Kd4 Ke7 62.c5 Ra2 63.d6+ Kd7 64.Kd5 Rd2+ 65.Kc4 Ra2 66.Kd4 Rxa4+ 67.Kd5 Ra5 68.Bd3 Kc8 69.Bg6 Kd7 70.Bf5+ Kd8 71.Be6 Rb5 72.Kc4 Rb1 73.c6 Rc1+ 74.Kb5 Rb1+ 75.Ka6 Ra1+ 76.Kb6 Rb1+ 77.Ka5 Ra1+ 78.Kb4 Rb1+ 79.Kc4 Rc1+
+/- (1.25) Depth: 23 00:01:36 388mN
+/- (1.25) Depth: 24 00:01:56 472mN

60.c5 Rxe4 61.a5 Ra4 62.c6 Rxa5 63.c7 Ra8 64.Kc6 Ke8 65.d6 Ra6+ 66.Kb7 Rxd6 67.c8Q+ Ke7 68.Kc7 Rd4 69.Qf5 Rc4+ 70.Kb7 f6 71.Qg6 Kf8 72.Qg3 Ra4 73.Kc6 Rd4 74.Qb3 Rd8 75.Qe6 Rd4 76.Qc8+ Ke7 77.Qc7+ Ke6 78.Qxg7 Rc4+ 79.Kb5
+- (2.14 !) Depth: 24 00:02:44 683mN
+- (2.34) Depth: 28 00:07:17 1850mN

60.Bf5 g6 61.Bd7 e4 62.c5 Kg7 63.c6 e3 64.c7 Rc2 65.Bg4 Kf6 66.hxg6 fxg6 67.a5 Kg5 68.Be2 h5 69.a6 Rxe2 70.c8Q Ra2 71.Qc1 Rxa6+ 72.Ke5 Kh6 73.Qxe3+ Kg7 74.d6 Ra5+ 75.Ke6 Ra6 76.Qe4 Kh6 77.Qf4+ Kg7 78.Qf6+ Kh6
+- (2.58 !) Depth: 28 00:11:29 2884mN
+- (8.04 !) Depth: 30 00:30:31 7508mN

[Steve B]

It's a draw...but why do you think Bf5 will win?

can we paleese use the reply option here instead of the quote feature?
Teds post so far takes the prize for longest scrolling post of the year


Squinting Regards
Steve

Hi Steve,

On behalf of all long scrolling post everywhere, I am truly honored.

Thank You!

Interesting position
you should offer more in the future
Best Regards
Steve

[Terry McCracken]

It's a draw...but why do you think Bf5 will win?

Hi Terry,

To be honest, I'm not sure that it is winning but, I do believe it offers the best winning chances. Plus I do like the fact that from Bf5 the bishop covers the possible queening square c8. The point I really wanted to make was that the cute move c5 does not work, even thou it looks winning. I know I as a human would have played it in a instant falsely believing it to be a cute and winning move. Hell even Kxe5 looks sound, if not also a little complex to me. Bf5 just seems to be a clearer path to the win.

Well you don't have to go for an early pawn push so Bf5 appears to win due to White's pawns. Giving up the Bishop allows Black to draw...I should have really looked at it.