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A good news for ones is a bad one for others

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A good news for all chess enthusiasts:

RobboLito 0.085d2 is a new Number One on one CPU.

A bad news for others is that Rybka 4 release will probably be delayed.
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Who ever they are, they should be proud of their achivement.Why don't they go commercial?
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Cubeman wrote:Who ever they are, they should be proud of their achivement.Why don't they go commercial?
If they do it they will be equal to Vasik Rajlich. I think it is exactly what they don´t want to be.

Of course, I am talking about the original nucleus of the group, but now the circle of colaboraters is growing. On one hand it offers new perforance possibilties but on the others it brings a danger of spliting the group in future.
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Cubeman wrote:[...]Why don't they go commercial?
If you read their page you will soon notice that these guys are pretty opposed to capitalist ideas
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Edmund wrote:
Cubeman wrote:[...]Why don't they go commercial?
If you read their page you will soon notice that these guys are pretty opposed to capitalist ideas
My prediction is that at least 2 commercial engines will appear in the near future,less than a year,that will be equal or even stronger than Rybka 4....
My other prediction is that they will appear after the release of Rybka 4....

So Vasik must have something realy good in his hands so that he can lead the competition....

As for a cluster version of Rybka,I think that it interests not more than a 10% of Rybka's customers at best and I think that I am overoptimistic with that....

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slobo wrote:
Cubeman wrote:Who ever they are, they should be proud of their achivement.Why don't they go commercial?
If they do it they will be equal to Vasik Rajlich. I think it is exactly what they don´t want to be.

Of course, I am talking about the original nucleus of the group, but now the circle of colaboraters is growing. On one hand it offers new perforance possibilties but on the others it brings a danger of spliting the group in future.
Don't blame Vasik for going commercial,nothing wrong with that....
Note that when the flame wars about the origin of Rybka started here,I didn't participate because I am not a programmer and I didn't want to know the secret of Rybka.....
Obviously he didn't start Rybka from scratch,but he discovered a whole bunch of innovative techniques that made Rybka unique and went commercial....again,nothing wrong with that....

The annoying thing is that after he become the king of the hill,anyone who appears in the horizon who seems to be a threat for Rybks's dominancy is accused of cloning with no further explanations....

Yes,Vasik confirmed that it's a clone of Rybka....

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Could you post a rating list and even better, the games, please ? :-)

Thanks,
Vincent

slobo wrote:A good news for all chess enthusiasts:

RobboLito 0.085d2 is a new Number One on one CPU.

A bad news for others is that Rybka 4 release will probably be delayed.
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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
slobo wrote:
Cubeman wrote:Who ever they are, they should be proud of their achivement.Why don't they go commercial?
If they do it they will be equal to Vasik Rajlich. I think it is exactly what they don´t want to be.

Of course, I am talking about the original nucleus of the group, but now the circle of colaboraters is growing. On one hand it offers new perforance possibilties but on the others it brings a danger of spliting the group in future.
Don't blame Vasik for going commercial,nothing wrong with that....
Note that when the flame wars about the origin of Rybka started here,I didn't participate because I am not a programmer and I didn't want to know the secret of Rybka.....
Obviously he didn't start Rybka from scratch,but he discovered a whole bunch of innovative techniques that made Rybka unique and went commercial....again,nothing wrong with that....

The annoying thing is that after he become the king of the hill,anyone who appears in the horizon who seems to be a threat for Rybks's dominancy is accused of cloning with no further explanations....

Yes,Vasik confirmed that it's a clone of Rybka....

Oh God,sometimes I hate myself for being me,but when I look at you,I feel happy regards,
Dr.D
I don´t blame his for going commercial. I blame him for not offerenig any deal to people whose ideias he used in Rybka.

It is not just that, beyond his own money, he puts in his pocket the money that belongs to others.

Even if you get commercial there is space for sharing, if you are a right man.
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slobo wrote:
I don´t blame his for going commercial. I blame him for not offerenig any deal to people whose ideias he used in Rybka.
Ahh good, lets have no commerce.
Even if you get commercial there is space for sharing, if you are a right man.
Yes you are right. If you are the right stupid man.

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slobo wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
slobo wrote:
Cubeman wrote:Who ever they are, they should be proud of their achivement.Why don't they go commercial?
If they do it they will be equal to Vasik Rajlich. I think it is exactly what they don´t want to be.

Of course, I am talking about the original nucleus of the group, but now the circle of colaboraters is growing. On one hand it offers new perforance possibilties but on the others it brings a danger of spliting the group in future.
Don't blame Vasik for going commercial,nothing wrong with that....
Note that when the flame wars about the origin of Rybka started here,I didn't participate because I am not a programmer and I didn't want to know the secret of Rybka.....
Obviously he didn't start Rybka from scratch,but he discovered a whole bunch of innovative techniques that made Rybka unique and went commercial....again,nothing wrong with that....

The annoying thing is that after he become the king of the hill,anyone who appears in the horizon who seems to be a threat for Rybks's dominancy is accused of cloning with no further explanations....

Yes,Vasik confirmed that it's a clone of Rybka....

Oh God,sometimes I hate myself for being me,but when I look at you,I feel happy regards,
Dr.D
I don´t blame his for going commercial. I blame him for not offerenig any deal to people whose ideias he used in Rybka.

It is not just that, beyond his own money, he puts in his pocket the money that belongs to others.

Even if you get commercial there is space for sharing, if you are a right man.
There are people who don´t make questions. They simply start offending others, or bitting them when they are in a good condition to do it; sometimes they are even able to kill others who don´t accept their standpoint.

So, with whom Vas is in debt?

He is in debt with people who transformed his obscure and unknown engine to the World´s Number One.

I don´t know if all members can understand my words. If anyone doesn´t, why should I call him "stupid"?

a) If someone cannot understand my words, callng him "stupid" will not help him.
b) If he does not want to understand, what can I do?

The only thing I can do is point out to the right direction.
"Well, I´m just a soul whose intentions are good,
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."