Lets find out how good HS-10 moves.abk really is............

[pichy]

If you use Arena 2.xx, it's better to use...

Et pourquoi ? (c'est un peu court, jeune homme ! )

And Why ?, this is a little bit short , young man!

I know that this is a short match, but it is a good indication that if I prolong it to 200 games, the result will remain within the same margin

[ernest]

Hi Jorge,
I was answering Patrick, with that citation from Cyrano de Bergerac (ever heard of his nose?), because he was stating something without any further comment.
Nothing to do with the length of your match...

[adieguez]

Hi, you play a small amount of games. Well but you know already..

I remember some time ago, an user (don't remember who, maybe Alex Schmidt) tested amyan using amyan's own small book, and using a bigger more famous book to compare, the difference was very small, with the smaller book winning by little. I don't remember more details but it seems there were also a not big amount of games (so why I talk about it?)

Harry's book is still a very high quality book even if he has one poor bad lines as it was played in the game Bright vs Cyclone xTreme. I decided to test Harry's HS-10moves.abk which is a short book with high variety of lines versus HP91-99_2500.abk and here is the result so far.

Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-A is playing with HP91-09_2500.abk
Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-B is playing with HS-10 moves.abk


Engine Score Ry Ry S-B
1: Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-A 19.5/38 ······································ 1==1=======0====0=====0=01111=0==01=01 360.75
2: Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-B 18.5/38 0==0=======1====1=====1=10000=1==10=10 ······································ 360.75

38 of 100 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge-07E2FB46AF, United States
Level: Tournament Game in 10 Minutes
Hardware: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+ 1662 MHz with 992 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Books\arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

[pichy]

Hi, you play a small amount of games. Well but you know already..

I remember some time ago, an user (don't remember who, maybe Alex Schmidt) tested amyan using amyan's own small book, and using a bigger more famous book to compare, the difference was very small, with the smaller book winning by little. I don't remember more details but it seems there were also a not big amount of games (so why I talk about it?)

Harry's book is still a very high quality book even if he has one poor bad lines as it was played in the game Bright vs Cyclone xTreme. I decided to test Harry's HS-10moves.abk which is a short book with high variety of lines versus HP91-99_2500.abk and here is the result so far.

Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-A is playing with HP91-09_2500.abk
Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-B is playing with HS-10 moves.abk


Engine Score Ry Ry S-B
1: Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-A 19.5/38 ······································ 1==1=======0====0=====0=01111=0==01=01 360.75
2: Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-B 18.5/38 0==0=======1====1=====1=10000=1==10=10 ······································ 360.75

38 of 100 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge-07E2FB46AF, United States
Level: Tournament Game in 10 Minutes
Hardware: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+ 1662 MHz with 992 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Books\arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

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Antonio I decided to test only up to 100 games, but if I saw any greater margin than this, then I would have prolonged the test to 200.


Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-A is playing with NP91-09_2500.abk
Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-B is playing with HS-10 moves.abk


Engine Score Ry Ry S-B
1: Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-A 50.5/100 ···································································································· 1==1=======0====0=====0=01111=0==01=01==1====000=0=0=0101=0=11=011====11===0=0===11=0010==11101=0=== 2499.7
2: Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-B 49.5/100 0==0=======1====1=====1=10000=1==10=10==0====111=1=1=1010=1=00=100====00===1=1===00=1101==00010=1=== ···································································································· 2499.7

100 games played / Tournament is finished
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: Jorge-07E2FB46AF, United States
Level: Tournament Game in 10 Minutes
Hardware: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+ 1662 MHz with 992 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Books\arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:

[Le Fou numerique]

If you use Arena 2.xx, it's better to use...

Et pourquoi ? (c'est un peu court, jeune homme ! )

Hi,

Parce que ... comme disent les gamins

HS-20moves.abk is make with and for Arena 2.xx.

All others HS-Books were maked with and for Arena 1.1. The default book options are not the same in the two versions.

Regards,
Patrick

[pichy]

If you use Arena 2.xx, it's better to use...

Et pourquoi ? (c'est un peu court, jeune homme ! )

Hi,

Parce que ... comme disent les gamins

HS-20moves.abk is make with and for Arena 2.xx.

All others HS-Books were maked with and for Arena 1.1. The default book options are not the same in the two versions.

Regards,
Patrick

It is an excellent book which is good for weak engines rated less than 2700 SSDF since it can take them into move 20 with a great chance of equalizing the position against a stronger engines, and it is also great for strong engines like rybka 232a and better.


Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-B is using h-schnapp-v02__little.abk =12moves
Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-A is using HS-20moves.abk

The score so far is even, but I will not play over 200 games.

Engine Score Ry Ry S-B
1: Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-A 83.5/166 ······································································································································································· 0===0===11=1=100=1====1===11=0=0=0====01000=0=0==10==00===0===1=1=00==1==0==11010==0=000==1====111======1==1=11=0==000=1=1===0====100=1111======1======001111=1===0===? 6888.7
2: Rybka v2.3.2a.w32-B 82.5/166 1===1===00=0=011=0====0===00=1=1=1====10111=1=1==01==11===1===0=0=11==0==1==00101==1=111==0====000======0==0=00=1==111=0=0===1====011=0000======0======110000=0===1===? ······································································································································································· 6888.7

166 of 200 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament
Site/ Country: RUTH-07E2FB46AF, United States
Level: Blitz 7/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+ 1662 MHz with 992 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Books\arena.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address: