one final thread on robolito....in all fairness

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Re: one final thread on robolito....in all fairness

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Graham Banks wrote:
slobo wrote: Who would need Rybka 3´s code to be open if we already have the open code of an engine 60-65 elo points stronger than Rybka 3?
Why worry about your own car when you can steal your neighbour's better one?
Definitely you did not get it.
The correct understanding of my post would result into the following statement:

Why worry about my neighbour's old car when I have my own and better one?
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Re: one final thread on robolito....in all fairness

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slobo wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
slobo wrote: Who would need Rybka 3´s code to be open if we already have the open code of an engine 60-65 elo points stronger than Rybka 3?
Why worry about your own car when you can steal your neighbour's better one?
Definitely you did not get it.
The correct understanding of my post would result into the following statement:

Why worry about my neighbour's old car when I have my own and better one which I received as stolen goods?
Red text added by me. :wink:
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Re: one final thread on robolito....in all fairness

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SzG wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Why worry about my neighbour's old car when I have my own and better one which I received as stolen goods?
Red text added by me. :wink:
You fail to stop calling it stealth. Got some evidence finally?
The answer is simple. In a group of honest people the statement by a member is higher valued than the one of stealing thieves and their claque. Also because the member has a real name while the thieves have not. In our culture it's unusual that anonymous people could challenge a decent member on moral grounds. No idea why you have it the other way round?
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Re: one final thread on robolito....in all fairness

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Rolf wrote:
SzG wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Why worry about my neighbour's old car when I have my own and better one which I received as stolen goods?
Red text added by me. :wink:
You fail to stop calling it stealth. Got some evidence finally?
The answer is simple. In a group of honest people the statement by a member is higher valued than the one of stealing thieves and their claque. Also because the member has a real name while the thieves have not. In our culture it's unusual that anonymous people could challenge a decent member on moral grounds. No idea why you have it the other way round?
I do respect Gabor highly. It's just that we have different opinions on this issue.
However, I do appreciate your support Rolf.

Cheers,
Graham.
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Re: one final thread on robolito....in all fairness

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Graham Banks wrote:
I do respect Gabor highly. It's just that we have different opinions on this issue.
However, I do appreciate your support Rolf.

Cheers,
Graham.
We have not the same moral. I'm an observer and describe why someone of the group is on top of anonymous people. If Gabor cant accept that and if he insinuated that anonymous thieves have same rights and moral then I contradict him. Personally I dont claim anything for myself. I'm not superior to Gabor or equal to you. I'm just an observer. That is also why I dont agree with someone like you all the time, in special if you support wrong issues. Well, it's seldom that I can understand when something is wrong. But I can judge if people with wrong moral are supported by the group which is a fatal moral. You just cant support anonymous people who attack members of the group. There is much hypocrisy when it's forbidden to publish links for downloading but the names of the alleged clones are being published.
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Re: one final thread on robolito....in all fairness

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Graham Banks wrote:
slobo wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
slobo wrote: Who would need Rybka 3´s code to be open if we already have the open code of an engine 60-65 elo points stronger than Rybka 3?
Why worry about your own car when you can steal your neighbour's better one?
Definitely you did not get it.
The correct understanding of my post would result into the following statement:

Why worry about my neighbour's old car when I have my own and better one which I received as stolen goods?
Red text added by me. :wink:
It is not new that in CCC some people have the right to blame others and to acuse them without any proof.

If the code was stolen, there is no secrets in Rybka code anymore.
Why Rybka´s author don´t show the code then?

Do you know that Robbolito knows that KBp vs K endgame is draw when the promotion corner square is not of the Bishop´s colour?

Do you know that Rybka (whose author is an IM by the way) does not know it?

So, why should anyone wish the Rybka´s code when he already has the Fischer´s one?
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Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
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Honesty...Yes.... Peculiar use of this term in this rather particular situation. 8-) Query --could it not be called 'detrimental reliance' in regard to the slighted Rybka 3 fans that purchased the engine with 'Updates' which were not delivered :?: If I were advised (by the Rybka representatives) that an improved R3+ was in the offing and I then purchased said R3 with this expectation for purposes of utilizing the R3+ to proof my opening book....and said updates were NOT delivered in a 'reasonable' time period :?: What ethical situation do we have then in terms of a R3+ clone :?: IF Vas were to release the much touted R3+ would I be comitting murder if I then subsequently --ahem--killed my clone.... :wink:
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Nimzovik wrote:Honesty...Yes.... Peculiar use of this term in this rather particular situation. 8-) Query --could it not be called 'detrimental reliance' in regard to the slighted Rybka 3 fans that purchased the engine with 'Updates' which were not delivered :?: If I were advised (by the Rybka representatives) that an improved R3+ was in the offing and I then purchased said R3 with this expectation for purposes of utilizing the R3+ to proof my opening book....and said updates were NOT delivered in a 'reasonable' time period :?: What ethical situation do we have then in terms of a R3+ clone :?:
Well, with some good will of yours, you could see Ippolit´s and Robolito´s arrival as a fulfillment of that atualization promise.

So, no need to blame Rybka´s team.


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Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."