Got the disk today and am playing some 'fun' games , just to watch. Tomorrow I will start an automated test. ( if I can figure it all out )
Game 1 was a draw with Rybka 3 playing white.
i-7 quad @ 3.75 GHz , single core each , Game/15 mins , ponder off , no tablebases , OB's truncated to 4 moves , Rybka using Rybka 3 ctg , and Toby using MyBook 19 ctg....... Also , I clicked off the Hyper-Tal feature....
From Rybka's perspective :
[Event "Blitz:15'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.?"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rybka 3 1-cpu"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "199"]
[TimeControl "900"]
{512MB, Rybka3.ctg} 1. e4 {0} Nc6 {5} 2. Nf3 {0} e5 {4} 3. Bb5 {0} Bc5 {5} 4.
O-O {0} Nd4 {5} 5. Nxd4 {0.47/14 27} Bxd4 {34} 6. c3 {0.40/16 39} Bb6 {37} 7.
d4 {0.40/16 15} c6 {26} 8. Bc4 {0.33/15 65} d6 {23} 9. dxe5 {0.34/15 23} dxe5 {
8} 10. Qxd8+ {0.29/15 13} Bxd8 {24} 11. Rd1 {0.30/16 13} Nf6 {20} 12. f3 {
0.29/15 5} b5 {20} 13. Be2 {0.27/15 23} Be6 {56} 14. Kf1 {0.32/15 7} Nd7 {21}
15. a4 {0.37/14 9} bxa4 {31} 16. Rd6 {0.24/15 10} Nc5 {14} 17. Be3 {0.00/16 38}
Nb3 {18} 18. Rxa4 {0.00/17 15} Ke7 {7} 19. Rxe6+ {0.00/17 28} fxe6 {13} 20. Ra3
{0.00/17 8} Rb8 {21} 21. Bxa7 {0.00/17 18} Rb7 {24} 22. Be3 {0.04/17 9} Kf6 {34
} 23. Ra8 {0.15/17 14} Rf8 {59} 24. Ra6 {0.15/17 4} Be7 {16} 25. Rxc6 {
0.16/16 4} Na5 {33} 26. Rb6 {0.13/17 8} Rxb6 {13} 27. Bxb6 {0.00/18 5} Nb3 {14}
28. Bd1 {0.00/18 6} Rb8 {25} 29. Be3 {0.17/18 8} Bc5 {39} 30. Bxc5 {0.00/19 8}
Nxc5 {11} 31. b4 {0.00/18 0} Nd3 {30} 32. Bc2 {0.00/20 9} Nb2 {16} 33. Ke2 {
0.00/21 10} Ra8 {10} 34. g3 {0.00/20 9} Ke7 {10} 35. Kd2 {0.00/18 16} Rd8+ {26}
36. Ke2 {0.00/22 8} g5 {10} 37. Nd2 {-0.12/19 29} Rc8 {16} 38. Nb1 {-0.24/16 4}
Ra8 {10} 39. Kd2 {-0.14/18 14} Ra1 {14} 40. Ke2 {-0.20/18 11} Kd6 {12} 41. g4 {
-0.25/20 19} Kc6 {37} 42. Kd2 {-0.20/18 5} Kc7 {11} 43. Kc1 {-0.14/20 7} Nc4 {7
} 44. Bd3 {-0.13/20 26} Ne3 {25} 45. Kb2 {-0.13/21 19} Ra8 {13} 46. c4 {
-0.13/21 23} h5 {12} 47. h3 {-0.13/21 21} h4 {22} 48. c5 {-0.12/20 5} Nd1+ {16}
49. Kb3 {-0.12/19 3} Ra1 {11} 50. Kc2 {-0.12/20 6} Nf2 {8} 51. Bf1 {-0.13/20 3}
Kc6 {11} 52. Kb2 {-0.12/20 3} Ra8 {7} 53. Nd2 {0.00/19 5} Nd1+ {7} 54. Kb3 {
0.00/17 0} Ne3 {7} 55. Bd3 {0.00/19 4} Ra1 {29} 56. Bb1 {-0.08/18 3} Ra7 {10}
57. Bd3 {0.00/20 5} Ra8 {10} 58. Kb2 {-0.10/19 3} Ra4 {15} 59. Kb3 {-0.10/20 8}
Ra7 {7} 60. Kb2 {-0.15/20 12} Nd1+ {7} 61. Kb3 {-0.15/20 3} Nf2 {9} 62. Bf1 {
-0.15/18 0} Ra1 {6} 63. Kb2 {-0.05/19 3} Ra4 {20} 64. Kb3 {0.00/20 4} Ra7 {15}
65. Kc4 {0.00/18 4} Rd7 {57} 66. b5+ {0.00/18 18} Kc7 {7} 67. b6+ {0.00/18 2}
Kb7 {8} 68. Nb3 {0.00/17 0} Rd1 {29} 69. Be2 {0.00/17 8} Re1 {9} 70. Bd3 {
0.00/16 0} Ka6 {6} 71. Bc2 {-0.42/18 17} Nxh3 {9} 72. Na5 {-0.81/18 13} Nf4 {27
} 73. b7 {-0.81/17 5} Ka7 {33} 74. c6 {-0.77/18 4} Rc1 {14} 75. Kb3 {-0.77/18 3
} Kb8 {10} 76. Nc4 {-0.77/19 6} Ne2 {12} 77. Kb2 {-0.77/18 0} Rxc2+ {7} 78.
Kxc2 {-0.77/17 0} Nd4+ {9} 79. Kd1 {-0.77/18 2} h3 {13} 80. Nxe5 {-0.77/17 0}
Ka7 {13} 81. Nd3 {-0.80/17 2} h2 {7} 82. Nf2 {-0.80/16 0} Nxf3 {9} 83. Ke2 {
-0.79/19 1} Ne5 {4} 84. Kf1 {-0.79/19 1} Nxg4 {5} 85. Nh1 {-0.79/18 0} Ne5 {6}
86. Kg2 {-0.74/20 1} Nxc6 {7} 87. Ng3 {-0.43/21 7} Kxb7 {28} 88. Nh5 {
-0.43/21 1} h1=R {19} 89. Kxh1 {-0.43/19 0} Nd8 {16} 90. Kg2 {-0.26/21 1} Kc6 {
8} 91. Kg3 {-0.24/21 1} Kc5 {8} 92. Ng7 {-0.24/21 1} Kd6 {14} 93. Kg4 {
-0.25/21 1} Nf7 {7} 94. Ne8+ {-0.25/20 1} Kc6 {9} 95. Ng7 {-0.16/21 1} Kd7 {5}
96. e5 {-0.16/21 1} Ke7 {8} 97. Nh5 {-0.17/22 1} Nxe5+ {6} 98. Kxg5 {-0.15/20 1
} Kf7 {9} 99. Nf4 {-0.08/20 1} Nf3+ {7} 100. Kg4 {-0.05/20 1} *
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Here is the game from Toby-Tal's perspective :
[Event "Blitz:15'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2010.01.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Rybka 3"]
[Black "Toby 1q 1 CPU"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "198"]
[EventDate "2010.01.07"]
[TimeControl "900"]
{512MB, Mybook19.ctg, TOMGLENN-PC} 1. e4 {0} Nc6 {B/0 0} 2. Nf3 {4} e5 {B/0 0}
3. Bb5 {4} Bc5 {B/0 0} 4. O-O {5} Nd4 {B/0 0} 5. Nxd4 {35} Bxd4 {0.10/19 26} 6.
c3 {76} Bb6 {0.10/17 0} 7. d4 {23} c6 {0.05/18 18} 8. Bc4 {82} d6 {0.00/17 8}
9. dxe5 {32} dxe5 {0.05/14 0} 10. Qxd8+ {20} Bxd8 {0.00/19 6} 11. Rd1 {35} Nf6
{0.05/18 7} 12. f3 {13} b5 {-0.10/19 14} 13. Be2 {36} Be6 {0.10/20 38} 14. Kf1
{25} Nd7 {-0.05/18 8} 15. a4 {16} bxa4 {-0.20/21 23} 16. Rd6 {19} Nc5 {-0.15/
20 6} 17. Be3 {46} Nb3 {-0.15/21 11} 18. Rxa4 {24} Ke7 {-0.15/19 1} 19. Rxe6+ {
33} fxe6 {-0.15/21 6} 20. Ra3 {16} Rb8 {-0.15/19 0} 21. Bxa7 {46} Rb7 {-0.05/
21 8} 22. Be3 {17} Kf6 {0.05/21 15} 23. Ra8 {66} Rf8 {0.05/22 16} 24. Ra6 {11}
Be7 {0.00/21 8} 25. Rxc6 {15} Na5 {0.05/22 24} 26. Rb6 {15} Rxb6 {0.05/22 5}
27. Bxb6 {12} Nb3 {-0.10/23 8} 28. Bd1 {14} Rb8 {0.00/22 16} 29. Be3 {15} Bc5 {
0.00/24 26} 30. Bxc5 {19} Nxc5 {-0.10/22 7} 31. b4 {7} Nd3 {-0.10/24 10} 32.
Bc2 {32} Nb2 {-0.20/22 6} 33. Ke2 {14} Ra8 {-0.15/22 4} 34. g3 {15} Ke7 {-0.20/
21 4} 35. Kd2 {23} Rd8+ {-0.25/23 18} 36. Ke2 {15} g5 {-0.25/23 3} 37. Nd2 {37}
Rc8 {-0.30/23 8} 38. Nb1 {11} Ra8 {-0.30/23 3} 39. Kd2 {24} Ra1 {-0.35/21 3}
40. Ke2 {19} Kd6 {-0.40/22 6} 41. g4 {41} Kc6 {-0.35/22 5} 42. Kd2 {22} Kc7 {
-0.35/24 5} 43. Kc1 {12} Nc4 {-0.35/23 3} 44. Bd3 {35} Ne3 {-0.30/22 15} 45.
Kb2 {25} Ra8 {-0.30/22 5} 46. c4 {31} h5 {-0.35/21 4} 47. h3 {30} h4 {-0.35/22
14} 48. c5 {18} Nd1+ {-0.35/22 3} 49. Kb3 {8} Ra1 {-0.35/23 5} 50. Kc2 {12} Nf2
{-0.35/24 3} 51. Bf1 {9} Kc6 {-0.35/24 3} 52. Kb2 {10} Ra8 {-0.35/24 2} 53. Nd2
{11} Nd1+ {-0.35/23 2} 54. Kb3 {4} Ne3 {-0.35/24 4} 55. Bd3 {8} Ra1 {-0.20/24
23} 56. Bb1 {10} Ra7 {-0.20/24 5} 57. Bd3 {9} Ra8 {-0.20/23 2} 58. Kb2 {13} Ra4
{-0.20/23 3} 59. Kb3 {17} Ra7 {-0.20/24 3} 60. Kb2 {16} Nd1+ {-0.20/23 2} 61.
Kb3 {7} Nf2 {-0.20/24 5} 62. Bf1 {4} Ra1 {-0.20/24 2} 63. Kb2 {9} Ra4 {-0.20/
23 4} 64. Kb3 {17} Ra7 {-0.15/24 6} 65. Kc4 {13} Rd7 {-0.35/22 50} 66. b5+ {28}
Kc7 {-0.35/21 0} 67. b6+ {8} Kb7 {-0.35/20 2} 68. Nb3 {28} Rd1 {-0.35/18 0} 69.
Be2 {14} Re1 {-0.60/22 3} 70. Bd3 {4} Ka6 {-0.60/21 0} 71. Bc2 {24} Nxh3 {-0.
60/21 3} 72. Na5 {19} Nf4 {-0.60/22 11} 73. b7 {42} Ka7 {-0.60/21 0} 74. c6 {16
} Rc1 {-0.35/23 7} 75. Kb3 {9} Kb8 {-0.35/22 3} 76. Nc4 {16} Ne2 {-0.35/22 2}
77. Kb2 {7} Rxc2+ {-0.35/22 2} 78. Kxc2 {5} Nd4+ {-0.65/23 5} 79. Kd1 {6} h3 {
-0.85/24 8} 80. Nxe5 {6} Ka7 {-0.85/24 8} 81. Nd3 {6} h2 {-0.85/26 3} 82. Nf2 {
4} Nxf3 {-0.85/27 5} 83. Ke2 {5} Ne5 {-0.85/25 0} 84. Kf1 {4} Nxg4 {-0.85/26 2}
85. Nh1 {4} Ne5 {-0.85/25 0} 86. Kg2 {7} Nxc6 {-0.60/26 3} 87. Ng3 {12} Kxb7 {
-0.40/29 23} 88. Nh5 {9} h1=R {-0.40/29 11} 89. Kxh1 {9} Nd8 {-0.35/29 8} 90.
Kg2 {5} Kc6 {-0.25/29 4} 91. Kg3 {6} Kc5 {-0.25/28 2} 92. Ng7 {6} Kd6 {0.00/26
11} 93. Kg4 {4} Nf7 {0.00/26 3} 94. Ne8+ {5} Kc6 {0.00/27 4} 95. Ng7 {7} Kd7 {
0.00/26 1} 96. e5 {4} Ke7 {0.00/26 2} 97. Nh5 {7} Nxe5+ {0.00/27 2} 98. Kxg5 {4
} Kf7 {0.00/26 1} 99. Nf4 {10} Nf3+ {0.00/27 1} *
Rybka 3 vs Toby-Tal , Game 1
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Re: Rybka 3 vs Toby-Tal , Game 1
A nice game....thanks Tom....
I am eagerly waiting for any new engine to knock out Rybka and drag it to the lower sections of the rating lists....I predicted that 3-4 months ago and it's happening....it's going to be even more interesting in the upcoming 6 months
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I am eagerly waiting for any new engine to knock out Rybka and drag it to the lower sections of the rating lists....I predicted that 3-4 months ago and it's happening....it's going to be even more interesting in the upcoming 6 months

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Wow, glad it wasn't a scam. Looking forward to seeing more games.WuShock wrote:Got the disk today and am playing some 'fun' games , just to watch. Tomorrow I will start an automated test. ( if I can figure it all out )
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Count me in Jeremysockmonkey wrote:Wow, glad it wasn't a scam. Looking forward to seeing more games.WuShock wrote:Got the disk today and am playing some 'fun' games , just to watch. Tomorrow I will start an automated test. ( if I can figure it all out )

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Re: Rybka 3 vs Toby-Tal , Game 1
I think most of us would like to see competition as the top, but as long as it comes from an engine whose author has a real name and as long as it's not a clone.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:A nice game....thanks Tom....
I am eagerly waiting for any new engine to knock out Rybka and drag it to the lower sections of the rating lists....I predicted that 3-4 months ago and it's happening....it's going to be even more interesting in the upcoming 6 months![]()
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Looking forward to hearing more about Toby-Tal. Is it credited with an author?
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Well,as far as I am informed Graham,only the sales man is famous at this stage,we're yet to be introduced to the author of the program....Graham Banks wrote:I think most of us would like to see competition as the top, but as long as it comes from an engine whose author has a real name and as long as it's not a clone.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:A nice game....thanks Tom....
I am eagerly waiting for any new engine to knock out Rybka and drag it to the lower sections of the rating lists....I predicted that 3-4 months ago and it's happening....it's going to be even more interesting in the upcoming 6 months![]()
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Looking forward to hearing more about Toby-Tal. Is it credited with an author?
Cheers,
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Gahhh - not again.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Well,as far as I am informed Graham,only the sales man is famous at this stage,we're yet to be introduced to the author of the program....Graham Banks wrote: I think most of us would like to see competition as the top, but as long as it comes from an engine whose author has a real name and as long as it's not a clone.
Looking forward to hearing more about Toby-Tal. Is it credited with an author?
Cheers,
Graham.
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Relax,it will pump outGraham Banks wrote:Gahhh - not again.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Well,as far as I am informed Graham,only the sales man is famous at this stage,we're yet to be introduced to the author of the program....Graham Banks wrote: I think most of us would like to see competition as the top, but as long as it comes from an engine whose author has a real name and as long as it's not a clone.
Looking forward to hearing more about Toby-Tal. Is it credited with an author?
Cheers,
Graham.
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computer chess could be very expensive 2010 
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Re: Rybka 3 vs Toby-Tal , Game 1
From what I have seen of Toby Chess a lot of their products are pdf scans of what I hope are public domain books and such.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Relax,it will pump outGraham Banks wrote:Gahhh - not again.Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Well,as far as I am informed Graham,only the sales man is famous at this stage,we're yet to be introduced to the author of the program....Graham Banks wrote: I think most of us would like to see competition as the top, but as long as it comes from an engine whose author has a real name and as long as it's not a clone.
Looking forward to hearing more about Toby-Tal. Is it credited with an author?
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Graham.
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For instance they have a DVD that has the entire Endgame Enyclopedia and Averbahk's monumental Endgame work's as well. Are they public domain? I don't know. I haven't purchased them because I am not sure.
I say this not to cast any doubts on Toby-Tal but only to show what that website is selling. I look forward to having an attack crazy engine.