Junior 2010 custom settings

[yanquis1972]

since this is never going to be a top elo engine, what are some fun settings you've experimented with (or are about to )?

i've cranked up mobility, space & king safety to around 170, set contempt at 30, and passed pawns at 120, & it plays absolutely wild stuff, & will almost instantly spot any sacrifice i've thrown at it yet. right now i think i'm going to bump KS to something like 250 to see if it doesn't completely break the engine. i'm still looking to make it even more aggressive with pawn pushes against the enemy king (i guess i should turn space up more); i'm aiming for a 2500-2600+ coffeehouse personality.

figured some of the guys around here have messed around with it a bit more, so let's share in the fun.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

since this is never going to be a top elo engine, what are some fun settings you've experimented with (or are about to )?

i've cranked up mobility, space & king safety to around 170, set contempt at 30, and passed pawns at 120, & it plays absolutely wild stuff, & will almost instantly spot any sacrifice i've thrown at it yet. right now i think i'm going to bump KS to something like 250 to see if it doesn't completely break the engine. i'm still looking to make it even more aggressive with pawn pushes against the enemy king (i guess i should turn space up more); i'm aiming for a 2500-2600+ coffeehouse personality.

figured some of the guys around here have messed around with it a bit more, so let's share in the fun.

Just watch out not to make it play like a coffee machine

[Dayffd]

since this is never going to be a top elo engine, what are some fun settings you've experimented with (or are about to )?

i've cranked up mobility, space & king safety to around 170, set contempt at 30, and passed pawns at 120, & it plays absolutely wild stuff, & will almost instantly spot any sacrifice i've thrown at it yet. right now i think i'm going to bump KS to something like 250 to see if it doesn't completely break the engine. i'm still looking to make it even more aggressive with pawn pushes against the enemy king (i guess i should turn space up more); i'm aiming for a 2500-2600+ coffeehouse personality.

figured some of the guys around here have messed around with it a bit more, so let's share in the fun.

Just watch out not to make it play like a coffee machine

Or a hot wired toaster.

[LiquidNitrogenOverclocker]

since this is never going to be a top elo engine, what are some fun settings you've experimented with (or are about to )?

i've cranked up mobility, space & king safety to around 170, set contempt at 30, and passed pawns at 120, & it plays absolutely wild stuff, & will almost instantly spot any sacrifice i've thrown at it yet. right now i think i'm going to bump KS to something like 250 to see if it doesn't completely break the engine. i'm still looking to make it even more aggressive with pawn pushes against the enemy king (i guess i should turn space up more); i'm aiming for a 2500-2600+ coffeehouse personality.

figured some of the guys around here have messed around with it a bit more, so let's share in the fun.

That sounds like a great (and hilarious) idea! Publish some of these games when you have time.

[LiquidNitrogenOverclocker]

By the way, I played a correspondence chess game with a David Shanholtzer in the late 1980's. I think the Golden Knights 1987 tournament. Were you in that by any chance?

[Robert Flesher]

I find it hard to believe you don't think Junior play is already to crazy.
If you can get Junior to play like the old Deep Sjeng personality Redshift, I'll be surprised. Redshift was insane, and very strong against humans for a quick, fast win.

[yanquis1972]

i think it should be up to the challenge.

i am starting the silver suite in 1+1 against fritz 5.32 to get an idea of its strength, here is the two games, enjoy

2 cores for DJ, PB on

[Date "2010.02.14"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Deep Junior 2010 win64 UCI"]
[Black "Fritz 5.32"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A03"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]

1. f4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. b3 g6 4. Bb2 Bg7 5. e3
O-O 6. Be2 c5 7. O-O Nc6 {Both last book move} 8. a4 {-0.89/13 3} Qc7 {(Bf5)
-0.13/10 5} 9. Nc3 {-0.51/13 3} a6 {(Bf5) -0.16/11 5} 10. Bd3 {(d4) -0.51/14 2}
b6 {(Bg4) -0.19/11 8} 11. h3 {(Ne2) -0.40/14 4} Nb4 {(d4) -0.34/10 3} 12. Ne2 {
(Ne5) 0.00/13 1} Nxd3 {(c4) -0.31/10 3} 13. cxd3 {-0.27/14 3} Bb7 {(d4) -0.34/
11 0} 14. Be5 {0.21/14 1} Qd7 {-0.13/11 3} 15. a5 {(d4) 0.34/15 2} b5 {(Qc6)
-0.25/11 3} 16. b4 {(Rc1) 0.41/15 1} Rac8 {(d4) -0.22/11 3} 17. bxc5 {(Rc1) 0.
67/14 2} Rxc5 {-0.19/11 3} 18. Ned4 {(Nfd4) 0.67/15 0} Ba8 {(Ne8) -0.28/10 3}
19. f5 {(Nb3) 1.40/14 3} gxf5 {-0.50/11 3} 20. Nh4 {(Qe1) 2.11/15 2} e6 {0.72/
11 4} 21. Ndxf5 {(Nhxf5) 2.17/16 0} exf5 {0.94/12 3} 22. Bd4 {(Nxf5) 2.76/15 3}
Rc7 {(Rc6) 0.03/12 3} 23. Nxf5 {2.81/14 1} Ne8 {-0.31/12 1} 24. Qg4 {2.83/14 0}
f6 {-0.28/11 1} 25. Bb6 {2.08/15 6} Rb7 {-0.25/13 0} 26. Bc5 {1.94/14 4} Kh8 {
-0.44/13 0} 27. Qh4 {(Nxg7) 1.88/12 1} Rf7 {(Rc7) -1.50/11 3} 28. Rab1 {(Bd4)
1.45/13 4} Bf8 {(Rc7) -1.53/10 2} 29. Bd4 {(Bb4) 1.39/13 2} b4 {(Rc7) -1.66/9 2
} 30. g4 {(Nh6) 1.05/14 3} Qb5 {(b3) -1.72/11 3} 31. Rbc1 {(Nh6) 0.89/12 1} Rb8
{(b3) -1.69/11 3} 32. g5 {(Qg3) 1.94/13 3} Qxd3 {-0.16/10 3} 33. Qh5 {2.79/13 0
} Rg7 {0.78/10 2} 34. Nxg7 {3.16/13 2} Bxg7 {1.56/11 0} 35. gxf6 {(Rxf6) 3.59/
14 1} Nxf6 {1.69/11 1} 36. Rxf6 {3.86/12 1} Bxf6 {(Qxd4) 2.31/11 2} 37. Bxf6+ {
6.72/14 2} Kg8 {1.41/4 0} 38. Qe5 {(Rc7) 7.15/14 1} Qg6+ {4.53/11 3} 39. Kh2 {
7.94/15 5} Re8 {5.22/13 0} 40. Qd6 {8.37/15 5} Kf7 {5.37/10 2} 41. Rf1 {9.55/
11 0} Kg8 {8.75/9 2} 42. Rg1 {11.20/15 0} Qxg1+ {10.72/11 2} 43. Kxg1 {11.63/9
0} Kf7 {9.69/10 2} 44. Bd4 {(Qd7+) 12.06/15 2} 1-0

[Date "2010.02.14"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Fritz 5.32"]
[Black "Deep Junior 2010 win64 UCI"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A03"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]

1. f4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. b3 g6 4. Bb2 Bg7 5. e3
O-O 6. Be2 c5 7. O-O Nc6 {Both last book move} 8. Ne5 {-0.06/10 3} h5 {(Qc7)
-0.79/13 3} 9. Nxc6 {(Bf3) 0.00/11 3} bxc6 {-0.61/14 3} 10. Be5 {(Nc3) 0.25/11
5} h4 {(a6) -0.86/14 3} 11. Bf3 {(Nc3) 0.44/11 6} h3 {(Bf5) -0.81/14 2} 12. c4
{(Nc3) 0.34/9 4} hxg2 {(Bf5) -0.92/13 2} 13. Bxg2 {0.16/11 4} Bf5 {-0.81/14 0}
14. d4 {(Nc3) 0.06/10 4} Ng4 {(cxd4) -1.69/13 3} 15. Bxg7 {0.16/10 4} Kxg7 {-1.
34/14 1} 16. dxc5 {-0.03/10 2} dxc4 {-1.37/13 4} 17. Qc1 {(Qd2) 0.00/10 0} Qd3
{-1.41/11 2} 18. Re1 {0.09/10 1} Rh8 {(cxb3) -1.67/12 1} 19. h3 {(Qc3+) -0.03/
10 3} Nf6 {-1.47/13 2} 20. Rd1 {(Qxc4) -0.25/10 0} Qe2 {-3.73/12 1} 21. Nc3 {
(Qd2) -0.69/10 2} Qh5 {-4.42/12 1} 22. bxc4 {(Qb2) -1.37/9 3} Bxh3 {-4.92/11 0}
23. Qc2 {(Qd2) -1.97/9 2} Bf5 {(Qxc5) -6.10/13 3} 24. Qf2 {-1.87/11 2} Qh2+ {
-5.68/12 2} 25. Kf1 {-1.16/4 0} Ng4 {-6.07/12 1} 26. Qf3 {-0.66/10 3} Rab8 {
(Rad8) -5.07/12 1} 27. Rd2 {-0.62/9 2} Be6 {(Rb4) -5.07/12 0} 28. Ne2 {-1.34/
10 2} f5 {-4.43/12 11} 29. Rc2 {(Ke1) -0.62/10 3} Rb4 {(Bc8) -4.37/11 2} 30.
Rac1 {-0.37/10 2} Bf7 {(Bc8) -3.52/13 9} 31. Nd4 {-0.44/10 3} Ra4 {(e5) -3.03/
14 0} 32. Nxc6 {0.00/9 2} Ra3 {-3.45/13 0} 33. Re2 {0.00/10 2} Qh4 {-4.04/14 0}
34. Kg1 {-0.59/11 3} Ra4 {(Rc8) -3.57/14 3} 35. Rec2 {(Bf1) -1.12/10 3} Rxc4 {
-4.60/12 1} 36. Rxc4 {-1.22/10 2} Bd5 {(Bxc4) -6.32/15 0} 37. e4 {-2.09/11 3}
fxe4 {-6.33/12 1} 38. Qe2 {-5.25/9 3} Qg3 {-7.60/13 0} 39. Qb2+ {-6.69/8 3} e5
{-8.41/9 0} 40. Qxe5+ {(Qb7+) -9.03/8 2} Nxe5 {-16.45/10 1} 41. Nxe5 {-#6/9 2}
e3 {-#6/14 0} 42. R4c2 {-#5/8 0} Rh2 {-#6/14 0} 43. Nf3 {-#4/6 0} Bxf3 {-#4/15
0} 44. Kf1 {-#3/3 0} Rxg2 {-#3/23 1} 45. Rxg2 {-#2/1 0} Qxg2+ {-#3/19 0} 46.
Ke1 {-#1/1 0} Qh1# {-#1/36 1} 0-1

[Dayffd]

By the way, I played a correspondence chess game with a David Shanholtzer in the late 1980's. I think the Golden Knights 1987 tournament. Were you in that by any chance?

Hi Ed.

Yes, that was me. How have you been? Probably best to continue this privately so everyone else doesn't find out how badly I was whipped like butter milk!

[Dayffd]

I find it hard to believe you don't think Junior play is already to crazy.
If you can get Junior to play like the old Deep Sjeng personality Redshift, I'll be surprised. Redshift was insane, and very strong against humans for a quick, fast win.

Are those (Redshift) parameters available?

[LiquidNitrogenOverclocker]

I've been just fine, but I doubt the game was as one-sided as you implied. I don't have very many of my early correspondence games, and I've been handed my head more than my fair share of times too.

It was fun, getting those postcards, then breaking out the board and puzzling over what to do next. At one point I had one room with about 12 boards set up, running down variations and sub-variations, resetting the position to "the board to the left", and working my way around the room.

All that changed after college, when it became a chore, and I tired of it. It was fun while it lasted.

The last game I played in correspondence was one with John Vehre, in Gothic Chess, my 80-square variant (see GothicChess.com) and he killed me pretty good.