Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

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yanquis1972
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Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by yanquis1972 »

i thought this would be interesting to compare results of your program of choice with andrew's test. the position arises from kholmov-bronstein, kiev 1964.

[d]r1b2r1k/4qp1p/p1Nppb1Q/4nP2/1p2P3/2N5/PPP4P/2KR1BR1 b - - 0 18

Nc6!!

[Event "URS-ch32"]
[Site "Kiev"]
[Date "1964.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kholmov, Ratmir D"]
[Black "Bronstein, David I"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B99"]
[PlyCount "67"]
[EventDate "1964.12.26"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "19"]
[EventCountry "URS"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 d6 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Be7 8. Qf3
Qc7 9. O-O-O Nbd7 10. g4 b5 11. Bxf6 gxf6 12. f5 Ne5 13. Qh3 O-O 14. g5 b4 15.
gxf6 Bxf6 16. Rg1+ Kh8 17. Qh6 Qe7 18. Nc6 Nxc6 19. e5 Bg5+ 20. Rxg5 f6 21.
exd6 Qf7 22. Rg3 bxc3 23. Bc4 cxb2+ 24. Kb1 Nd8 25. Rdg1 Ra7 26. d7 Rxd7 27.
fxe6 Nxe6 28. Bxe6 Rd1+ 29. Rxd1 Bxe6 30. Kxb2 Rb8+ 31. Ka1 Bxa2 32. Rgd3 Qe7
33. Kxa2 Qe6+ 34. Rb3 1-0
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Re: Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by acase »

Actually John, I think the position you meant to post was before white's 18th move.

[d] r1b2r1k/4qp1p/p2ppb1Q/4nP2/1p1NP3/2N5/PPP4P/2KR1BR1 w - -


My apologies if I am wrong.
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Re: Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by yanquis1972 »

of course -- thanks for the correction, andrew.
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Re: Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by David Dahlem »

FEN: r1b2r1k/4qp1p/p2ppb1Q/4nP2/1p1NP3/2N5/PPP4P/2KR1BR1 w - - 0 1

ProDeo Q3:

8 00:02 1.333.993 666.996 +1.39 Nc3d5 e6xd5 Bf1d3 Bc8b7 e4xd5 Bb7xd5 Bd3e2 Bd5xa2
8 00:03 1.590.889 795.444 +2.15 Nd4c6 Ne5xc6 e4e5 Rf8g8 e5xf6 Qe7f8 Rg1xg8+ Kh8xg8 Qh6xf8+ Kg8xf8 f5xe6 b4xc3 Rd1xd6
9 00:04 2.333.603 777.867 +1.54 Nd4c6 Ne5xc6 e4e5 Nc6xe5 Nc3e4 Ne5d7 Ne4xd6 Bf6xb2+ Kc1b1
10 00:12 7.954.519 662.876 +1.01 Nd4c6 Ne5xc6 e4e5 Bf6xe5 f5f6 Be5xf6 Bf1d3 Bf6g5+ Rg1xg5 f7f5
11 00:34 24.894.374 732.187 +0.47 Nd4c6 Ne5xc6 e4e5 Bf6xe5 f5f6 Be5xf6 Bf1d3 Bf6g5+ Rg1xg5 f7f5 Nc3e2 Bc8b7
11 01:08 50.744.026 746.235 +0.58 Kc1b1 Rf8g8 Rg1xg8+ Kh8xg8 Nc3a4 Bf6g5 Qh6h5 Bc8b7 f5xe6 Bb7xe4 e6xf7+ Ne5xf7 Na4b6
12 02:35 119.858.472 773.280 +0.37 Kc1b1 Bc8b7 Nc3e2 Rf8g8 Rg1xg8+ Ra8xg8 Ne2g3 Ne5g4 Qh6d2 a6a5 Bf1c4 Ng4e5
12 02:35 119.945.464 773.841 +0.47 Nd4c6 Ne5xc6 e4e5 Bf6xe5 f5f6 Be5xf6 Bf1d3 Bf6g5+ Rg1xg5 f7f5 Nc3e2 Bc8b7
12 02:36 120.228.479 770.695 +0.47 Nc3d5
12 02:36 119.945.464 768.881 +0.47 Nd4c6 Ne5xc6 e4e5 Bf6xe5 f5f6 Be5xf6 Bf1d3 Bf6g5+ Rg1xg5 f7f5 Nc3e2 Bc8b7
12 04:54 235.653.459 801.542 +0.51 Rd1d2 Bc8d7 Rd2g2 Rf8g8 Nc3d1
13 07:49 372.018.115 793.215 -0.02 Rd1d2 Bc8b7 Nc3d1
13 07:50 372.258.591 792.039 -0.02 Nd4c6
13 08:07 385.548.329 791.680 +1.19 Nd4c6 Ne5xc6 Rd1d3 Rf8g8 Rg1xg8+ Kh8xg8 Rd3g3+ Kg8h8 e4e5
14 11:05 547.866.764 823.859 +1.09 Nd4c6 Ne5xc6 Rd1d3 Rf8g8 Rg1xg8+ Kh8xg8 Rd3g3+ Kg8h8 e4e5
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Re: Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by yanquis1972 »

fwiw, i tested this in IDeA & it came up with it surprising quickly. no luck on andrew's position after working interactively (as i might not knowing the solution) for an hour. it has yet to even consider Nd6, although Nxb6 does appear to be winning as well.
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Re: Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by metax »

@John: You are in the wrong thread, aren't you? ;)
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Re: Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by zullil »

acase wrote:
[d] r1b2r1k/4qp1p/p2ppb1Q/4nP2/1p1NP3/2N5/PPP4P/2KR1BR1 w - -
Stockfish-1.6.3 (8 threads)

Code: Select all

Searching: r1b2r1k/4qp1p/p2ppb1Q/4nP2/1p1NP3/2N5/PPP4P/2KR1BR1 w - -
infinite: 0 ponder: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0
 2     +0.53   00:01      957 Na4 Bd7 
 3     -0.48   00:01     1577 Na4 Rg8 Qe3 Rxg1 Qxg1 
 4     -0.48   00:01     2964 Na4 Rg8 Qe3 Rxg1 Qxg1 
 4     -0.12   00:01     3818 Nce2 Rg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Nf4 
 5     -0.36   00:01     5759 Nce2 Rg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Nf4 Ng4 
 6     -0.65   00:01    11258 Nce2 Rg8 Kb1 Rxg1 Nxg1 Bb7 Qe3 
 7     -0.73   00:01    24629 Nce2 Rg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qh3 Bg5+ Kb1 Bd7 Nf3 Nxf3 
                              Qxf3 
 8     -0.36   00:01    80563 Nce2 Rg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qe3 Ng4 Qg3 exf5 h3 f4 Qxf4 
 9     -0.48   00:01   322731 Nce2 Rg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qd2 Bg5 Nf4 Qf6 Kb1 Qh6 Qg2 
                              Qh4 Nd3 
10     -0.36   00:01   575867 Nce2 Rg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Kb1 Bg5 Qh3 a5 Nf3 exf5 exf5 
                              Bd7 Nxg5 Qxg5 
11     -0.48   00:01    1398k Nce2 Bd7 fxe6 fxe6 Nf4 Rg8 Be2 Nf7 Rxg8+ Rxg8 Qh5 
                              Be5 Qf3 
12     -0.48   00:01    2153k Nce2 Bd7 Kb1 Rg8 Qd2 Rxg1 Nxg1 a5 Ngf3 exf5 exf5 
                              Rg8 Qe3 Nxf3 Qxf3 
13  >  -0.28   00:02    3411k Nce2 exf5 exf5 Rg8 Rxg8+ Kxg8 Qh3 Bg5+ Kb1 Bb7 
                              Bg2 d5 Qg3 Rc8 Nf4 
14     -0.53   00:02    7598k Nce2 Bd7 Kb1 Rg8 Qd2 d5 Rxg8+ Rxg8 Nf4 dxe4 fxe6 
                              fxe6 Qe2 Nc6 Nb3 e5 Qxe4 
15     -0.32   00:04   17250k Nce2 Bd7 Kb1 Rg8 Qd2 Nc4 Qxb4 Ne3 Re1 exf5 exf5 
                              Qe5 Rxg8+ Rxg8 Qb3 Nxf5 Nf3 Ba4 Nc3 Bxb3 Nxe5 
16     -0.40   00:05   25847k Nce2 Bd7 Kb1 Rg8 Qd2 Nc4 Qxb4 Ne3 Re1 exf5 Rxg8+ 
                              Rxg8 exf5 Rg4 c3 Nxf5 Bh3 Nxd4 cxd4 a5 Qxa5 Qe4+ 
                              Ka1 
17     -0.32   00:08   44628k Nce2 Bd7 Kb1 Rg8 Qd2 exf5 Rxg8+ Rxg8 exf5 Ng4 
                              Qxb4 Ne3 Re1 Rg4 c3 a5 Qxa5 Bxf5+ Ka1 
18  <  -0.57   00:18  124697k Nce2 Bb7 Bh3 Bxe4 Qe3 Bd5 
19     -0.61   00:38  278553k Nce2 exf5 exf5 Bb7 Kb1 Rg8 Qd2 d5 Ng3 Rg4 Qe3 Rh4 
                              Bg2 Rxh2 Qb3 Qc5 c3 a5 Rde1 
20     -0.89   00:56  422750k Nce2 exf5 exf5 Bb7 Kb1 Rg8 Qd2 d5 Ng3 Rg4 Nb3 Rh4 
                              Qe2 Rg8 Re1 Qc7 Qf2 a5 Be2 Nc4 Bxc4 dxc4 
20     -0.61   01:07  506861k Na4 Bb7 Bh3 Bxe4 Nb6 Rab8 fxe6 Rxb6 Bf5 fxe6 Bxe4 
                              Rf7 Qh5 d5 Nxe6 Rxe6 Bxd5 Rg7 Bxe6 Rxg1 Rxg1 Qxe6 
                              Kb1 Nc4 Qh6 Qf7 
21  <  -0.81   01:58  901788k Na4 Bb7 fxe6 Rg8 Rxg8+ Rxg8 Qh3 fxe6 Qxe6 Bxe4 
                              Qxe7 Bxe7 Kb1 Rg1 
22     -0.65   13:40    6316M Na4 Bb7 Bh3 Bxe4 Kb1 Rg8 Nb6 Rab8 Rxg8+ Rxg8 fxe6 
                              d5 Qf4 fxe6 Bxe6 Rd8 Nc8 Qg7 b3 Qg5 Qf2 Qh4 Qe2 
                              Bg5 Rg1 Bf4 h3 
22     -0.20   16:50    7771M Kb1 bxc3 Rd3 Bg5 Rxg5 f6 Rgg3 Nxd3 Bxd3 Rg8 Rxg8+ 
                              Kxg8 Bc4 Qg7 Qe3 Kf8 fxe6 Qg5 Qxg5 fxg5 bxc3 Ke7 
                              Kc1 Kf6 Kd2 Bb7 Bd5 Bxd5 exd5 Ke5 Nf3+ Kxd5 Nxg5 
23     -0.44   18:33    8568M Kb1 bxc3 Rd3 Bg5 Rxg5 f6 Rgg3 Nxd3 Bxd3 Rg8 Rxg8+ 
                              Kxg8 Bc4 d5 exd5 Qb4 b3 Qa3 Qc1 Qxc1+ Kxc1 exf5 
                              Kd1 Kf8 Ke2 Ke7 Ke3 Bd7 Kf4 Kd6 Nxf5+ Bxf5 Kxf5 
                              Rf8 b4 
24     -0.36   35:24   16361M Kb1 Bd7 Nce2 a5 h4 Rg8 Bh3 Nc4 Rdf1 Rxg1 Rxg1 Rg8 
                              Rxg8+ Kxg8 fxe6 fxe6 b3 Na3+ Kc1 Qf7 Qf4 Bxd4 
                              Qxf7+ Kxf7 Nxd4 Kf6 Kd2 Nb1+ Ke3 Nc3 Bg4 Ke5 Nf3+ 
                              Kf6 
24     +0.57   39:45   18417M Nc6 Nxc6 e5 Bxe5 f6 Bxf6 Bd3 Bg5+ Rxg5 f6 Bxh7 
                              fxg5 Be4+ Kg8 Rg1 Ra7 Nd5 Qg7 Rxg5 Qxg5+ Qxg5+ 
                              Rg7 Nf6+ Kf7 Qh4 Ne5 Kd2 d5 Nh5 Nc4+ Kd3 dxe4+ 
                              Kxc4 Rh7 Qf6+ Kg8 Qg6+ Kh8 Qg5 Rhf7 Qh6+ Kg8 Qg6+ 
                              Kh8 Qxe4 Rf5 Ng3 
25     +0.65   42:47   19856M Nc6 Nxc6 e5 Bxe5 f6 Bxf6 Bd3 Bg5+ Rxg5 f6 Bxh7 
                              fxg5 Be4+ Kg8 Rg1 bxc3 Rxg5+ Qxg5+ Qxg5+ Kf7 bxc3 
                              d5 Bg6+ Kg8 Be8+ Kh8 Bxc6 Ra7 c4 dxc4 Kb2 Rh7 Kc3 
                              Rg7 Qh4+ Kg8 Qxc4 Rgf7 Qd4 Rf4 Qe5 R8f7 
26     +0.61   55:21   25976M Nc6 Nxc6 e5 Bxe5 f6 Bxf6 Bd3 Bg5+ Rxg5 f6 Bxh7 
                              fxg5 Be4+ Kg8 Rg1 Ra7 Nd5 Qg7 Rxg5 Qxg5+ Qxg5+ 
                              Rg7 Nf6+ Kf7 Qh4 Ne5 Kd2 Bd7 Nh5 Rg4 Qf6+ Ke8 
                              Ng7+ Rxg7 Qxg7 Rf2+ Ke1 Rxh2 Qg3 Rh8 a3 bxa3 Qxa3 
                              Rh4 Bb7 Ke7 Qxa6 
27  >  +0.81 1:15:03   35477M Nc6 Nxc6 e5 Bxe5 f6 Bxf6 Bd3 Bg5+ Rxg5 f6 Bxh7 
                              fxg5 Be4+ Kg8 Rg1 Ra7 Nd5 Qg7 Rxg5 Qxg5+ Qxg5+ 
                              Rg7 Nf6+ Kf7 Qh4 Ne5 
28     +1.21 1:29:56   42764M Nc6 Nxc6 e5 Bxe5 f6 Bxf6 Bd3 Bg5+ Rxg5 f6 Bxh7 
                              fxg5 Be4+ Kg8 Rg1 Ra7 Nd5 Qg7 Rxg5 Qxg5+ Qxg5+ 
                              Rg7 Nf6+ Kf7 Qh4 Ne5 Kd2 Bd7 b3 Ng6 Qh6 Ne5 Nh5 
                              Rg1 Qf6+ Ke8 Ng7+ Rxg7 Qxg7 Rf2+ Ke1 Rf7 Qg8+ Ke7 
                              Qg5+ Rf6 h4 Bc6 Bxc6 Nxc6 h5 e5 Ke2 Nd4+ Kd3 
29     +1.49 3:09:10   91554M Nc6 Nxc6 e5 Bxe5 f6 Bxf6 Bd3 Bg5+ Rxg5 f6 Bxh7 
                              fxg5 Be4+ Kg8 Rg1 Ra7 Nd5 Qg7 Rxg5 Rf1+ Kd2 Qxg5+ 
                              Qxg5+ Rg7 Qh4 exd5 Bxd5+ Rff7 Bxc6 Bb7 Bxb7 Rxb7 
                              Qd8+ Kh7 Qh4+ Kg6 Kd3 Rgc7 h3 Rg7 Qg4+ Kh6 Qc4 a5 
                              Qd5 Rbf7 Qxd6+ Kh7 Qe6 Rd7+ Kc4 Rd2 Qe4+ Kg8 h4 
                              Rgg2 Qe6+ Kg7 
30     +1.49 6:44:24  198725M Nc6 Nxc6 e5 Bxe5 f6 Bxf6 Bd3 Bg5+ Rxg5 f6 Bxh7 
                              fxg5 Be4+ Kg8 Rg1 Ra7 Nd5 Qg7 Rxg5 Rf1+ Kd2 Qxg5+ 
                              Qxg5+ Rg7 Qh4 exd5 Bxd5+ Rff7 Bxc6 Bb7 Bxb7 Rxb7 
                              Qd8+ Kh7 Qh4+ Kg6 Kd3 Rgc7 Qf4 Kh5 Qf5+ Kh4 Qa5 
                              Rf7 Qxa6 Kh3 Qc6 Kxh2 Qxd6+ Kg2 Qd5+ Kg3 Qg5+ Kf3 
                              Qe3+ Kg4 Qd4+ Kg5 Qd5+ Kg4 Qe4+ Kg5 Qg2+ Kf4 Qh2+ 
                              Kg4 Qg1+ Kf3 Qh1+ Kg3 Qe1+ Kf4 
Nodes: 268718388932
Nodes/second: 8397659
Best move: Nc6
Ponder move: Nxc6
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Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by PawnStormZ »

Spark finds 18.Nc6 but did not give it a big score before I stopped it...however it found a mate after Black's 24...Nd8; says it was a mate in 10 after...

[Mate in 10] d=16 25.d7 Bb7 26.Rdg1 Be4 27.Rg7 Bxc2+ 28.Kxc2 b1B+ 29.Kxb1 Rb8+ 30.Bb3 Rxb3+ 31.axb3 Qg8 32.Rxg8+ Rxg8 33.Qxf6+ Rg7 34.Qxg7# (0:00.02) 5220kN


[+0.00] d=25 1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Bd3+ Kg8 8.Rg1 bxc3 9.Rxg5+ Qxg5+ 10.Qxg5+ Kf7 11.Bg6+ Kg8 12.Bd3+ (0:40.21) 4407791kN

[+0.00] d=24 1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Bd3+ Kg8 8.Rg1 bxc3 9.Rxg5+ Qxg5+ 10.Qxg5+ Kf7 11.Bg6+ Kg8 12.Bd3+ (0:26.54) 2968051kN

[+0.25] d=24 1.Nc6 (0:26.03) 2877677kN

[+0.00] d=23 1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Bd3+ Kg8 8.Rg1 bxc3 9.Rxg5+ Qxg5+ 10.Qxg5+ Kf7 11.Bg6+ Kg8 12.Bd3+ (0:18.56) 2131910kN

[+0.25] d=23 1.Nc6 (0:18.37) 2095681kN

[+0.00] d=22 1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Be4+ Kg8 8.Rg1 bxc3 9.Rxg5+ Qxg5+ 10.Qxg5+ Kf7 11.Bg6+ Kg8 12.Bd3+ Kf7 13.Bg6+ (0:16.30) 1880064kN

[-0.36] d=22 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.fxe6 fxe6 3.Nce2 Bxe4 4.Bh3 Nc4 5.Rdf1 Bg7 6.Rxf8+ Rxf8 7.Qxg7+ Qxg7 8.Rxg7 Kxg7 9.Nxe6+ Kg8 10.Nxf8 Kxf8 11.Ng3 Bg6 12.Bf5 Ke7 13.Bxg6 hxg6 14.Ne4 d5 15.Nc5 a5 16.h4 (0:09.15) 1086505kN

[-0.21] d=21 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.Nce2 Rg8 3.fxe6 Rxg1 4.Nxg1 fxe6 5.Bh3 Bxe4 6.Bxe6 Rf8 7.Nge2 Bg7 8.Qe3 d5 9.Rg1 Nf3 10.Nxf3 Qxe6 11.Ned4 Qc8 (0:04.50) 581116kN

[-0.32] d=20 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.Nce2 Rg8 3.fxe6 Rxg1 4.Nxg1 fxe6 5.Bh3 Bxe4 6.Bxe6 Bg5 7.Qh3 Rf8 8.Nge2 Rf2 9.Ng3 d5 10.Bf5 Qb7 11.Nxe4 dxe4 (0:02.30) 313881kN

[-0.31] d=19 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.fxe6 fxe6 3.Nce2 Bxe4 4.Bh3 Nc4 5.Rdf1 Bg7 6.Rxf8+ Rxf8 7.Qxg7+ Qxg7 8.Rxg7 Kxg7 9.Nxe6+ Kg8 10.Nxf8 Kxf8 11.Ng3 Bg6 12.Nf5 h5 13.Nd4 Ne3 14.Bc8 (0:01.09) 151518kN

[-0.30] d=18 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.fxe6 fxe6 3.Nce2 Bxe4 4.Bh3 Nc4 5.Ng3 Bxd4 6.Rxd4 Rf6 7.Qc1 Bd5 8.Nh5 Rg6 9.Rxg6 hxg6 10.Qh6+ Qh7 11.Qxh7+ Kxh7 12.Nf6+ Kh6 13.Nxd5 exd5 14.Rxd5 (0:00.39) 85512kN

[-0.25] d=17 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.fxe6 fxe6 3.Nce2 Bxe4 4.Bh3 Nc4 5.Bxe6 Nxb2 6.Rdf1 Bxd4 7.Nxd4 Na4 8.Bb3 Rxf1+ 9.Rxf1 Bg2 10.Nf5 Nc3+ 11.Kb2 (0:00.22) 48289kN

[-0.23] d=16 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.fxe6 fxe6 3.Nce2 Bxe4 4.Bh3 Nc4 5.Bg2 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Rf6 7.Qh3 Bxg2 8.Rxg2 Raf8 9.Rg3 e5 10.Nc6 (0:00.13) 29353kN

[-0.28] d=15 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.fxe6 fxe6 3.Nce2 Rg8 4.Bh3 Nf7 5.Qh5 Ng5 6.Ng3 d5 7.exd5 Nxh3 8.Qxh3 Bxd5 (0:00.08) 18001kN

[-0.22] d=14 1.Kb1 Bb7 2.fxe6 fxe6 3.Nce2 Rg8 4.Ng3 Rg6 5.Qh3 Bh4 6.Bd3 Rc8 7.Rdf1 a5 8.Nh5 Rxg1 9.Rxg1 (0:00.06) 13685kN

[-0.39] d=14 1.Nce2 Bb7 2.fxe6 Rg8 3.Rxg8+ Rxg8 4.Kb1 fxe6 5.Ng3 Ng4 6.Qd2 a5 7.Bc4 Bg5 8.Qg2 (0:00.05) 11830kN

[-0.20] d=13 1.Na4 Bb7 2.Kb1 Bxe4 3.Bh3 Rg8 4.fxe6 Rxg1 5.Rxg1 Nc4 6.Bf5 Bxf5 7.Nxf5 Qxe6 (0:00.02) 5439kN

[-0.10] d=12 1.Nce2 Rg8 2.Rxg8+ Kxg8 3.Kb1 exf5 4.exf5 Bg5 5.Qh3 Bb7 6.Bg2 Rc8 7.Bxb7 Qxb7 8.Rg1 (0:00.00) 1934kN

[-0.18] d=11 1.Nce2 Rg8 2.Rxg8+ Kxg8 3.Kb1 exf5 4.exf5 Bg5 5.Qh3 Bb7 6.Bg2 Bxg2 7.Qxg2 Rc8 (0:00.00) 1050kN

[-0.19] d=11 1.Na4 Rg8 2.Rxg8+ Kxg8 3.Kb1 Bg7 4.Qe3 Rb8 5.Qb3 a5 6.Bb5 Qh4 7.fxe6 fxe6 (0:00.00) 793kN

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Re: Test position -- continuing the deflection theme

Post by acase »

Deep Shredder 12 seems to get this one on my quad Phenom 955 X4 with 2048mb hash in 4 minutes 45 seconds



New game
r1b2r1k/4qp1p/p2ppb1Q/4nP2/1p1NP3/2N5/PPP4P/2KR1BR1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Shredder 12 UCI:

1.Na4 Rg8 2.Rxg8+ Kxg8 3.Kb1 Bg5 4.Qh5 Bb7 5.Nb6
= (-0.03) Depth: 6/17 00:00:00 52kN
1.Na4 Rg8 2.Rxg8+ Kxg8 3.Kb1 Bg5 4.Qh5 Rb8 5.Be2 Be3
= (-0.06) Depth: 7/20 00:00:00 78kN
1.Na4 Rg8 2.Rxg8+ Kxg8 3.Kb1 Bg5 4.Qh5 Rb8 5.Be2 Be3 6.Qh3 Bf2
= (0.12) Depth: 8/21 00:00:00 132kN
1.Na4 Rg8 2.Rxg8+ Kxg8 3.Kb1 Bg5 4.Qh5 Rb8 5.Be2 Bf4 6.Qh3 Kh8 7.Rg1
+/= (0.28) Depth: 9/21 00:00:00 206kN
1.Na4 Rg8 2.Rxg8+ Kxg8 3.Kb1 Bg5 4.Qh5 Rb8 5.Be2 Bf4 6.fxe6 fxe6 7.Rg1+ Kh8 8.Qh3 Bg5
= (-0.04) Depth: 10/25 00:00:00 363kN
1.Na4 Bb7 2.fxe6 fxe6 3.Kb1 Rg8 4.Bh3 Nf7 5.Qe3 Rxg1 6.Rxg1 Ng5 7.Bg4 Rc8 8.h4 Rc4
=/+ (-0.39) Depth: 11/27 00:00:00 1708kN
1.Nce2 exf5 2.exf5 Bb7 3.Qd2 Nc4 4.Qxb4 Ne3 5.Re1 Rg8 6.Rxg8+ Rxg8 7.Kb1 Be5 8.Ng3
= (-0.06) Depth: 11/31 00:00:01 2983kN
1.Nce2 exf5 2.exf5 Bb7 3.Qd2 a5 4.Nf4 Rg8 5.Bb5 Rxg1 6.Rxg1 Rg8 7.Rg3 Nd3+ 8.Nxd3 Rxg3 9.hxg3 Bxd4 10.Qh6
= (-0.13) Depth: 12/26 00:00:01 3742kN
1.Nce2 exf5 2.exf5 Bb7 3.Qd2 a5 4.Nf4 Rg8 5.Be2 Rxg1 6.Rxg1 Rg8 7.Rg3 Bh4 8.Rxg8+ Kxg8 9.Qe3 Bg5 10.Kb1 Kh8
=/+ (-0.31) Depth: 13/33 00:00:02 5062kN
1.Nce2 exf5 2.exf5 Bb7 3.Kb1 Rg8 4.Rxg8+ Rxg8 5.Qd2 a5 6.Nf4 Bg5 7.Be2 Be4 8.Rg1 Bh6 9.Rxg8+ Kxg8 10.Qe3 Qg5 11.Qg3 Kh8 12.Qxg5
=/+ (-0.63) Depth: 14/37 00:00:07 14359kN
1.Nce2 exf5 2.exf5 Bb7 3.Kb1 Rg8 4.Re1 Rxg1 5.Nxg1 Bh4 6.Rd1 Ng4 7.Qd2 Ne3 8.Rc1 Bf6 9.Ngf3 Bxf3 10.Nxf3 Qe4 11.Be2 Nxf5 12.Rg1
=/+ (-0.58) Depth: 15/41 00:00:20 39787kN
1.Nce2 exf5 2.exf5 Bb7 3.Kb1 Rg8 4.Qd2 Rxg1 5.Nxg1 Rg8 6.Nh3 a5 7.Re1 Bh4 8.Rd1 Ng4 9.Bc4 d5 10.Bb5 Ne3 11.Rg1 Rxg1+
-/+ (-0.77) Depth: 16/40 00:00:27 55682kN
1.Na4 Bb7 2.Bh3 Rg8 3.fxe6 Bg5+ 4.Rxg5 Qxg5+ 5.Qxg5 Rxg5 6.Nb6 Rb8 7.e7 Re8 8.Nf5 Rg6 9.Nd5 Bxd5 10.exd5 Nf3 11.Bf1 Rf6 12.Bd3 Ne5 13.Be4
= (-0.15) Depth: 16/43 00:00:47 95653kN
1.Na4 Bb7 2.Bh3 Rg8 3.fxe6 Bg5+ 4.Rxg5 Qxg5+ 5.Qxg5 Rxg5 6.Nb6 Rb8 7.e7 Re8 8.Nf5 Rg6 9.Nd5 Bxd5 10.exd5 Nf3 11.Rh1 Kg8 12.Bf1 Rf6 13.Bd3 h5 14.h4 a5
= (-0.02) Depth: 17/46 00:01:06 135mN
1.Na4 Rb8 2.Kb1 Bd7 3.b3 a5 4.Rg3 Rg8 5.Be2 Rxg3 6.hxg3 Bg5 7.Qh5 Be3 8.Nb2 Rg8 9.Nc4 Nxc4 10.Bxc4 Rxg3 11.Ne2 Rg8 12.fxe6 fxe6 13.Qxa5
=/+ (-0.40) Depth: 18/45 00:01:55 237mN
1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Be4+ Kg8 8.Rg1 Ra7 9.Nd5 Qg7 10.Rxg5 Qxg5+ 11.Qxg5+ Rg7 12.Nf6+ Kf7 13.Qf4 Ke7 14.Bxc6 Rxf6
+/= (0.35) Depth: 18/54 00:04:45 603mN
1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Be4+ Kg8 8.Rg1 Ra7 9.Nd5 Qg7 10.Rxg5 Qxg5+ 11.Qxg5+ Rg7 12.Nf6+ Kf7 13.Qf4 Ke7 14.Bxc6 Rxf6
+/= (0.35) Depth: 19/55 00:05:17 672mN
1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Be4+ Kg8 8.Rg1 Ra7 9.Nd5 Qg7 10.Rxg5 Qxg5+ 11.Qxg5+ Rg7 12.Nf6+ Kf7 13.Qh4 Ne5 14.Kd2 Nd7
+/- (0.83) Depth: 20/57 00:07:51 1013mN
1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Be4+ Kg8 8.Rg1 bxc3 9.Rxg5+ Qxg5+ 10.Qxg5+ Kf7 11.bxc3 d5 12.Bg6+ Kg8 13.Be8+ Kh8 14.Qh5+ Kg8
+/- (0.89) Depth: 21/59 00:11:23 1498mN
1.Nc6 Nxc6 2.e5 Bxe5 3.f6 Bxf6 4.Bd3 Bg5+ 5.Rxg5 f6 6.Bxh7 fxg5 7.Be4+ Kg8 8.Rg1 bxc3 9.Rxg5+ Qxg5+ 10.Qxg5+ Kf7 11.bxc3 d5 12.Bg6+ Kg8 13.Be8+ Kh8 14.Qh5+ Kg8
+/- (1.00) Depth: 22/60 00:16:08 2149mN
kgburcham
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differences

Post by kgburcham »

Note 237 million nodes at same time.
Cant trust smp search.
Then sometimes I will set up a positon and my Chessbase will beat Shredder interface.

Deep Shredder 12 x64 (2048 MB)

Shredder

16/49 1:31 +0.69 1.Nc6 Nxc6 (237.507.946)

17/51 1:38 +0.85 1.Nc6 Nxc6 (256.584.009)

18/55 1:56 +0.74 1.Nc6 Nxc6 (305.928.995)



Chessbase

1.Na4 Rb8 (-0.40) Depth: 18/45 00:01:55 237mN

1.Nc6 Nxc6 (0.35) Depth: 18/54 00:04:45 603mN

1.Nc6 Nxc6 (0.35) Depth: 19/55 00:05:17 672mN