INVENSIble? Is it possible to neutralize a comp on 30 sec?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

You mean you can't do it...

No one can; but again, if you want to believe ...

Bye
Ingo

I've done it myself and posted the games a few years ago. I know it can be done, I don't believe anything.

Can't admit when you're wrong.

Actually Terry,the closed positions in the Ruy Lopez opening are very common and drawing engines that are 2700+ Elo is not that difficult for me if I manage to stear the game into the desired opening line....
Dr.D

[Terry McCracken]

... sure: Not lags, not premove, and not hans either ...

This is a plain lie of course....besides,I'm damn sure that you used an opening book for the game,no way you know the opening line by heart....so all in all Ingo is right,this is again a monkey trick....

You shouldn't accuse him of cheating...he may know the line well.

[Terry McCracken]

You mean you can't do it...

No one can; but again, if you want to believe ...

Bye
Ingo

I've done it myself and posted the games a few years ago. I know it can be done, I don't believe anything.

Can't admit when you're wrong.

Actually Terry,the closed positions in the Ruy Lopez opening are very common and drawing engines that are 2700+ Elo is not that difficult for me if I manage to stear the game into the desired opening line....
Dr.D

There you go...you've done it yourself so Ingo is wrong at least as far as blocked positions go.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

You mean you can't do it...

No one can; but again, if you want to believe ...

Bye
Ingo

I've done it myself and posted the games a few years ago. I know it can be done, I don't believe anything.

Can't admit when you're wrong.

Actually Terry,the closed positions in the Ruy Lopez opening are very common and drawing engines that are 2700+ Elo is not that difficult for me if I manage to stear the game into the desired opening line....
Dr.D

There you go...you've done it yourself so Ingo is wrong at least as far as blocked positions go.

Of course I've done it against the likes of Fritz,Shredder,Hiarcs,you name it....but I was playing LTC games which last at least 2 hours and not 30 seconds....I mean come on,we're not parrots here,are we

[Terry McCracken]

You mean you can't do it...

No one can; but again, if you want to believe ...

Bye
Ingo

I've done it myself and posted the games a few years ago. I know it can be done, I don't believe anything.

Can't admit when you're wrong.

Actually Terry,the closed positions in the Ruy Lopez opening are very common and drawing engines that are 2700+ Elo is not that difficult for me if I manage to stear the game into the desired opening line....
Dr.D

There you go...you've done it yourself so Ingo is wrong at least as far as blocked positions go.

Of course I've done it against the likes of Fritz,Shredder,Hiarcs,you name it....but I was playing LTC games which last at least 2 hours and not 30 seconds....I mean come on,we're not parrots here,are we

I use to play Chessmaster 3/0 and with practise locked it up and let Chessmaster throw away pawns and win or just dance till it's clock fell.

These games are crap but it does show the engines inability to play those positions...they get stuck when there's nothing to do.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

You mean you can't do it...

No one can; but again, if you want to believe ...

Bye
Ingo

I've done it myself and posted the games a few years ago. I know it can be done, I don't believe anything.

Can't admit when you're wrong.

Actually Terry,the closed positions in the Ruy Lopez opening are very common and drawing engines that are 2700+ Elo is not that difficult for me if I manage to stear the game into the desired opening line....
Dr.D

There you go...you've done it yourself so Ingo is wrong at least as far as blocked positions go.

Of course I've done it against the likes of Fritz,Shredder,Hiarcs,you name it....but I was playing LTC games which last at least 2 hours and not 30 seconds....I mean come on,we're not parrots here,are we

I use to play Chessmaster 3/0 and with practise locked it up and let Chessmaster throw away pawns and win or just dance till it's clock fell.

These games are crap but it does show the engines inability to play those positions...they get stuck when there's nothing to do.

Knowing you through these years,I do believe you as much as you believe me,but hell,at least it's a 3/0 game,not a 30 seconds one....now Pablo's brain must be faster than an overclocked i7 processor Extreme Edition

[Father]

[d]8/2r5/4p1p1/1p3p1p/1P1PPP1P/1k4P1/p7/K7 b - - 0 153[d]

Terry:
If have neutralizeid in 30 seconds was strong, that poison position is really INCREDIBLE

[Father]

[d]8/2r5/4p1p1/1p3p1p/1P1PPP1P/1k4P1/p7/K7 b - - 0 153[d]




I CAN NOT BELIVE IT






[Event "Partida evaluada, 3m + 0s"]
[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
[Date "2010.02.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Grand-Father"]
[Black "KalleMP"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A03"]
[WhiteElo "1977"]
[BlackElo "2569"]
[Annotator "RESTREPO,PABLO"]
[PlyCount "305"]
[EventDate "2010.02.28"]
[BlackTeam "Stockfish 1.6.2s(dc) 64bitPARAMETER8 (4 cores"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. d4 {1} Nf6 {B 0} 2. e3 {0} d5 {B 0} 3. c3 {0} g6 {B 0} 4. f4 {1} Bg7 {B 0}
5. Nf3 {0} c5 {B 0} 6. Bd3 {1} Nc6 {B 0} 7. O-O {1} O-O {B 0} 8. Re1 {0} c4 {
-0.33/16 7} 9. Bc2 {3} b5 {-0.22/17 1} 10. a3 {1 (Sbd2)} Qc7 {9} 11. Nbd2 {-0.
31/16 0 (De2)} Rb8 {15} 12. Nf1 {-0.23/16 0 (De2)} Rd8 {7} 13. Re2 {-0.31/15 0
(De2)} a5 {-0.49/17 10} 14. Bd2 {1 (Te1)} Bg4 {-0.56/16 5} 15. Re1 {3} e6 {-0.
52/17 5} 16. h3 {1 (Sg3)} Bf5 {-0.44/17 4} 17. Ng3 {1} Ne7 {-0.42/16 0} 18. Qb1
{6 (e4)} Bxc2 {-0.64/17 4} 19. Qxc2 {1} Nf5 {-0.64/19 0} 20. Kh2 {4 (Sxf5)} a4
{-0.90/16 3} 21. Re2 {1 (Sxf5)} Nd6 {-0.67/16 4} 22. Rae1 {2 (Le1)} Re8 {-0.66/
18 4} 23. Nf1 {1 (Tf1)} Nf5 {-0.71/15 3} 24. h4 {3 (Sg3)} Qe7 {-1.15/15 3} 25.
g3 {2 (Kg1)} Ra8 {-1.10/14 5} 26. Rg2 {0 (Lc1)} h5 {-1.07/15 2} 27. Kg1 {2
(Lc1)} Nd6 {-0.99/18 6} 28. Ree2 {1 (Lc1)} Qb7 {-0.99/17 4} 29. Be1 {0} Qc7 {
-0.91/16 5} 30. Kh1 {0 (S1h2)} Rad8 {-0.99/17 3} 31. Rg1 {1 (Kg1)} Nf5 {-1.03/
14 2} 32. Rgg2 {2 (Se5)} Re7 {-0.96/16 9} 33. Kg1 {1 (Lf2)} Ng4 {-0.99/16 3}
34. N3h2 {2} Ngh6 {-0.80/17 0} 35. Nf3 {1 (Sd2)} Rc8 {-0.78/15 3} 36. Kh1 {1
(S1h2)} Ng4 {-0.98/15 1} 37. Kg1 {1} Rd7 {-0.94/16 0} 38. N3h2 {0 (Lf2)} Nf6 {
-0.86/16 1} 39. Nf3 {1 (Sd2)} Rdd8 {-0.95/16 1} 40. Kh1 {0 (S1d2)} Nd6 {-1.01/
14 2} 41. Kg1 {0 (S1d2)} Ra8 {-0.89/17 5} 42. Kh1 {0 (S1d2)} Ra7 {4} 43. Kg1 {
-0.92/16 0 (S1d2)} Re8 {2} 44. Kh1 {-0.92/16 0 (S1d2)} Re7 {1} 45. Kg1 {-0.99/
14 0 (Tg1)} Ra8 {4} 46. Kh1 {-0.85/16 0 (S1h2)} Rd8 {1} 47. Kg1 {-1.01/15 0}
Rde8 {-0.93/16 0} 48. Kh1 {1 (S1d2)} Rc8 {-0.99/15 1} 49. Kg1 {0 (S1d2)} Qb6 {1
} 50. Kh1 {-0.92/16 0 (S1d2)} Ree8 {-0.99/15 3} 51. Kg1 {0} Rc7 {1} 52. Kh1 {
-0.92/16 0 (S1d2)} Rb7 {1} 53. Kg1 {-0.95/14 0 (S1d2)} Rd7 {-0.92/15 1} 54. Kh1
{1 (S1d2)} Ra7 {-0.95/14 1} 55. Kg1 {0 (S1d2)} Rae7 {-0.92/16 2} 56. Kh1 {0
(S1d2)} Ra8 {-0.96/14 1} 57. Kg1 {0 (Lf2)} Rd8 {2} 58. Kh1 {-0.86/16 0 (Sg5)}
Qc6 {-1.01/15 0} 59. Kg1 {1} Rde8 {-0.92/17 0} 60. Kh1 {0 (S1d2)} Qb7 {-0.96/
14 1} 61. Kg1 {0 (Lf2)} Bh6 {-0.92/14 1} 62. Kh1 {1 (S1d2)} Rd8 {-0.89/15 1}
63. Kg1 {0 (S1d2)} Qc7 {-0.88/15 1} 64. Kh1 {0 (S1d2)} Qc6 {-0.92/13 1} 65. Kg1
{0 (S1d2)} Bg7 {-0.86/15 1} 66. Kh1 {0 (S1d2)} Rc8 {-0.93/14 1} 67. Kg1 {0} Ra8
{-0.92/16 1} 68. Kh1 {0 (S1d2)} Qc7 {-0.88/14 1} 69. Kg1 {0 (Lf2)} Rd8 {-0.95/
13 0} 70. Kh1 {1 (S1h2)} Rde8 {-0.92/14 1} 71. Kg1 {0} Qb7 {-0.91/16 0} 72. Kh1
{0 (S1h2)} Qc6 {-0.92/14 1} 73. Kg1 {0 (S1d2)} Qd7 {-0.91/13 0} 74. Rh2 {1
(S1d2)} Ng4 {-0.90/14 0} 75. Kg2 {2 (Thg2)} Nxh2 {0} 76. Kxh2 {-1.90/12 0} Nf5
{-1.80/16 0} 77. Kg2 {1} Nh6 {-1.75/18 0} 78. Kg1 {2 (S1d2)} Ng4 {-1.85/13 0}
79. N3h2 {2 (Kg2)} Nf6 {-1.80/14 0} 80. Nf3 {1 (Sd2)} Qc7 {-1.78/14 0} 81. Kg2
{0 (S1d2)} Ng4 {-1.78/14 0} 82. Kg1 {0 (S1h2)} Qb6 {-1.86/11 0} 83. N3h2 {1
(Kg2)} Nh6 {-1.80/12 0} 84. Nf3 {1 (Sd2)} Qc6 {-1.80/13 0} 85. Kg2 {0} Ng4 {-1.
78/16 0} 86. Kg1 {1 (S1d2)} Rc7 {-1.90/11 0} 87. Kg2 {1 (Sg5)} Rd7 {-1.81/12 0}
88. Kg1 {0 (S1d2)} Rd6 {-1.88/10 0} 89. Rh2 {1 (S1d2)} Nxh2 {-3.40/13 0} 90.
Kxh2 {0} f5 {-3.27/15 0} 91. Bf2 {1 (Se5)} Rd7 {-3.25/15 0} 92. Kg2 {0 (S1d2)}
Qd6 {-3.19/12 0} 93. N1d2 {1} Bf6 {-3.19/19 0} 94. Nb1 {1 (Sg5)} Rc7 {-3.39/11
0} 95. Ng1 {1 (Sbd2)} Kg7 {-3.40/12 0} 96. Nh3 {0 (Sf3)} Rd8 {-3.19/11 0} 97.
Qe2 {1 (Sd2)} Rb7 {-3.19/10 0} 98. Qf3 {0 (Dc2)} Rf7 {-3.19/10 0} 99. Kf1 {0
(Sd2)} Ra7 {-3.52/8 0} 100. Ng1 {1 (Sd2)} Rad7 {-3.61/9 0} 101. Ne2 {1 (Sd2)}
Rf7 {-3.60/10 0} 102. Nc1 {1 (Sd2)} Rg8 {-3.65/9 0} 103. Na2 {1 (Sd2)} Be7 {-3.
58/9 0} 104. Nb4 {1} Qd8 {-3.25/17 0} 105. Qe2 {3 (Sc2)} Bxb4 {-3.80/11 0} 106.
cxb4 {1 (axb4)} Qd6 {-3.71/12 0} 107. Nc3 {0} Rb7 {-3.71/19 0} 108. Qf3 {1
(Kg2)} Rh8 {-3.71/14 0} 109. Kg1 {1 (Kg2)} Rc8 {-3.67/14 0} 110. Kg2 {0} Rcc7 {
-3.47/15 0} 111. Be1 {1 (Sb1)} Qe7 {-3.36/13 0} 112. Bd2 {1 (Sb1)} Qd8 {-3.64/
10 0} 113. Qf2 {0 (Dd1)} Rb8 {-3.67/8 0} 114. Qe2 {1} Qd6 {-3.07/19 0} 115. Nd1
{1 (Sb1)} Qc6 {-3.70/9 0} 116. Bc3 {0 (Le1)} Rcb7 {-3.68/9 0} 117. Qf3 {2 (Sf2)
} Rc8 {-3.79/8 0} 118. Nf2 {1} Qb6 {-3.07/23 0} 119. Nh3 {1} Qd6 {-3.07/24 0}
120. Ng5 {1 (De2)} Re8 {-3.07/17 0} 121. Kh2 {12 (Dd1)} Rbe7 {-3.07/8 0} 122.
Qg2 {1 (Dd1)} Rb8 {-3.12/8 0} 123. Qh3 {1 (Df3)} Rf8 {-3.23/8 0} 124. Kg2 {0
(Dg2)} Rb7 {-3.12/8 0} 125. Kh2 {1 (Sf3)} Rc7 {-3.15/8 0} 126. Qg2 {1 (Kg2)}
Qe7 {-3.12/8 0} 127. Kh3 {0 (Df1)} Rh8 {-3.07/8 0} 128. Qf3 {1 (De2)} Rd7 {-3.
07/8 0} 129. Qe2 {2} Rb7 {-2.73/18 0} 130. Nf3 {3 (Le1)} Qd6 {-2.68/12 0} 131.
Ne5 {1 (Dc2)} Rc8 {-2.56/10 0} 132. Kh2 {2 (Dd1)} Re8 {-3.07/11 0} 133. Kg2 {1}
Ra8 {-2.99/23 0} 134. Nxc4 {1 (Dd1)} dxc4 {-6.17/8 0} 135. Qf3 {1 (d5+)} Qd5 {
-7.17/13 0} 136. Kf2 {2} Qxf3+ {-7.33/28 0} 137. Kxf3 {0 '} Kf7 {-7.41/29 0}
138. Kf2 {1 (Le1)} Rd8 {-7.30/9 0} 139. Ke2 {1} Ke7 {-7.48/29 0} 140. Ke1 {0
(Kf3)} Kd6 {-7.48/11 0} 141. Ke2 {0} Kd5 {-7.48/30 0} 142. Kf3 {0} Rc8 {-7.48/
29 0} 143. Bd2 {3 (Kg2)} c3 {-7.94/9 0} 144. bxc3 {1} Kc4 {-11.11/17 0} 145.
Ke2 {0 (e4)} Kb3 {-11.02/14 0} 146. Kd3 {0 (Kd1)} Kxa3 {-11.39/11 0} 147. Bc1+
{1 (d5)} Kb3 {-12.71/10 0} 148. Kd2 {0} Rxc3 {-17.92/16 0} 149. Kd1 {2 (g4)}
Rxc1+ {-18.22/12 0} 150. Kxc1 {0} a3 {-#7/20 0} 151. Kb1 {0 (g4)} Rc7 {-#3/14 0
} 152. e4 {2} a2+ {-#2/21 0} 153. Ka1 {1 Zeit (Lag: Av=0.53s, max=2.2s)} 1-0

[zullil]

Why do you post games like this? You are mated on the next move.

[Father]

... becouse I won the game. The chess machine losted on time. Times fly.

1-0
Human being = 1
Chess Computer = 0

Time is gold.

What is first. Time or mate... in this game the machine has lost its gam...