SWCR-64: Houd, Fire, Loop M1-T, Equi, Cipo, CraftyNP

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

6 updates in the still running SWCR-64 tournament:
= 920 games for this six new engines are to play!

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093. x64 Equinox 0.83              NEW      Started:   06.09.2010 private status
092  x64 WB Crafty 23.3 JA NP      TEST     Started:   06.09.2010 without ponder
091. x64 Cipollino 3.25            NEW      Started:   06.09.2010 private status
090. x64 Fire 1.31                 NEW      Started:   06.09.2010 IPP family
089. x64 Houdini 1.03a             NEW      Started:   06.09.2010 IPP family
088. x64 Loop M1-T                 Update   Started:   06.09.2010

LIVE Tournament table can be follow under:
Frank's Chess Page (SWCR):
http://www.amateurschach.de

Here is the first calculation:
After 19.954 games (SWCR-64, all games)

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01. IPP Houdini 1.03a x64        2.975 58 54  137 82% 2.721 29% NEW
02. Rybka 4 x64                  2.939 20 19 1194 81% 2.689 28%
--. IPP Fire 1.31 x64            2.916 53 50  138 76% 2.723 36% NEW
--. Rybka 3 x64                  2.905 22 22  840 78% 2.687 28%
03. Stockfish 1.8.0 JA x64       2.898 22 21  835 76% 2.702 31%
--. Stockfish 1.7.1 JA x64       2.895 19 18 1120 76% 2.706 34%
04. Critter 0.80 x64             2.840 21 21  835 69% 2.705 33%
05. Naum 4.2 x64                 2.830 16 16 1435 68% 2.700 36%
--. Critter 0.70 x64             2.806 20 19  880 65% 2.701 38%
06. Shredder 12                  2.800 16 16 1394 64% 2.699 35%
07. Komodo 1.2 JA x64            2.797 17 17 1195 64% 2.694 40%
--. Komodo 1.0 JA x64            2.790 20 20  840 64% 2.692 40%
--. Shredder 12 x64              2.787 18 18 1080 61% 2.706 35%
08. Spark 0.5 x64                2.737 17 17 1194 56% 2.696 39%
09. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64       2.732 15 15 1435 54% 2.703 40%
10. Zappa Mexico II x64          2.722 15 15 1435 53% 2.703 39%
--. Spark 0.4 x64                2.717 19 19  840 53% 2.696 40%
11. Protector 1.3.4 JA x64       2.716 15 15 1394 52% 2.704 37%
12. Fruit 09_07_05 x64           2.710 15 15 1435 51% 2.703 34%
--. Critter 0.60 x64             2.700 20 19  840 50% 2.697 38%
13. Hannibal 1.0a x64            2.688 20 20  835 47% 2.712 36%
14. Sjeng WC-2008 x64            2.686 15 15 1434 48% 2.704 36%
--. Protector 1.3.5 x64          2.684 19 20  840 47% 2.706 39%
15. Junior 11.2 x64              2.683 17 17 1195 48% 2.697 31%
16. Onno 1.2.70 x64              2.676 17 17 1195 47% 2.698 37%
--. Onno 1.1.1 x64               2.670 19 19  840 46% 2.698 40%
--. Junior 11.1a x64             2.647 20 20  840 43% 2.699 32%
17. Loop M1-T x64                2.639 51 52  121 37% 2.734 38% + 8
--. Loop 2007 x64                2.631 15 16 1400 40% 2.705 37%
18. Equinox 0.83 x64             2.616 50 51  137 34% 2.734 30% NEW
--. Twisted Logic 20100131x x64  2.611 18 18 1120 35% 2.716 32%
19. Umko 1.0 x64                 2.607 20 20  836 35% 2.716 36% (ponder not possible)
20. SmarThink 1.20 x64           2.601 15 16 1434 35% 2.707 33%
21. Crafty 23.3 JA x64           2.591 20 21  835 33% 2.717 33%
--. Cipollino 3.25 x64           2.579 51 54  132 28% 2.737 32% NEW
--. Crafty 23.3 JA x64 NP        2.567 50 52  138 27% 2.738 33% (without ponder = -24 ELO)
22. BugChess2 1.7 x64            2.563 21 21  800 29% 2.718 33%
23. Scorpio 2.6 JA x64           2.555 18 18 1120 28% 2.718 32%
--. Crafty 23.2 JA x64           2.554 18 18 1120 28% 2.718 30%
24. Chronos 1.99 x64             2.551 18 18 1120 27% 2.718 33% (ponder not possible)
25. Daydreamer 1.75 JA x64       2.521 19 19 1120 24% 2.719 30%
26. Tornado 3.6.7 x64            2.479 23 24  800 19% 2.722 24%

Very interesting is:
How strong is Crafty 23.3 JA x64 NP (No Ponder) if I compare the results with Crafty 23.3 JA x64 (with ponder). At the moment 24 ELO.

Hint:
In SWCR all engine playing with ponder (only for Umko 1.0 x64 and WB Chronos 1.99 x64 is ponder not possible).

Best
Frank

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Great tournaments and even a greater web page Frank...keep up the awesome work you do
Cheers,
Dr.D

[beachknight]

Great tournaments and even a greater web page Frank...keep up the awesome work you do
Cheers,
Dr.D

I disagree In my opinion, Frank deserved a break after a full years hard work.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Harun,

I had a break from 3 years
I am activ since one year again after my ATL-4 league and many years I do a lot for the Arena project.

So far only the SWCR is still running.
SWCR webpages are ready. For this SWCR event is nothing more to do, only to add actual information and from time to time an interesting message in German language for my "Aktuell / Actual" page.

My work for the GERMAN chess newspaper "SCHACHWELT" ended for three months too.

At this times the SWCR is enough for me, because in the next months I don't have so many time for computer chess I had in the last months.

I will try to add more and more engines in SWCR. So far the IPP family engines, more w32 engines in die x64 list for a better calculation from the SWCR with all games (32bit and 64bit games). Then I will add more and more amateurs.

Hiarcs 13.1 w32 will started soon in SWCR-64. Bright 0.5c x64 and IvanHoe T03a x64 too. All need a bit time ...

With other words, not a lot of work I have at this moment with the SWCR because all the work with needs time is done.

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Harun,

list of engines I have the most fun. I like agressive computer chess, fast games, great combinations in middle game, don't like endgames.

My personal TOP-8 list so far:

01. Spark 0.5
02. Hiarcs 13.1
03. Junior 11.2
04. Stockfish 1.7.1 JA
05. Hannibal 1.0a / Twisted Logic 20100131x
06. Thinker 5.4d Inert
07. Shredder 12
08. Sjeng WC-2008



What are your top engines which play aggressive computer chess?

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Wael,

thanks for your comments.

I hear about a Fire setting you created. Do you think it could be test in SWCR? What is it for a setting, which version I have to use. Perhaps you can send it to me by mail. I will add it in one of the next tournaments.

Or do you think its enough to have Fire 1.31 x64 in the list. After Houdini, and Fire ... Ivanhoe will follow.

So, three IPP Familiy engines are enough, or?
What do you think?

Best
Frank

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Hi Wael,

thanks for your comments.

I hear about a Fire setting you created. Do you think it could be test in SWCR? What is it for a setting, which version I have to use. Perhaps you can send it to me by mail. I will add it in one of the next tournaments.

Or do you think its enough to have Fire 1.31 x64 in the list. After Houdini, and Fire ... Ivanhoe will follow.

So, three IPP Familiy engines are enough, or?
What do you think?

Best
Frank

Hi Frank,
Currently the FireBird 1.1 Dr.Deeb I x64 still tops my rating list after more than 600 games played at 20 minutes + 20 seconds increment running on an overclocked quad at 4.0GHz....fire 1.31 is far behind it and it's a lot weaker,don't waste your time with it....

The problem is that many testers run a head to head matches only,like Deep Rybka vs FireBird 1.1 Dr.Deeb I and when Rybka wins 23-17 they quit testing thinking they've achieved the uktimate truth....the testing must include a lot of chess engines playing each other in a RR tournament and then you'll see the difference....

I'll send you the FireBird 1.1 chess engine and the settings itself....make a quick test at a reasonable time control and see for yourself....even if you don't like the settings,my advice is to test FireBird 1.1 default because it's the strongest version of the program....
Cheers,
Dr.D

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Hi Harun,

list of engines I have the most fun. I like agressive computer chess, fast games, great combinations in middle game, don't like endgames.

My personal TOP-8 list so far:

01. Spark 0.5
02. Hiarcs 13.1
03. Junior 11.2
04. Stockfish 1.7.1 JA
05. Hannibal 1.0a / Twisted Logic 20100131x
06. Thinker 5.4d Inert
07. Shredder 12
08. Sjeng WC-2008



What are your top engines which play aggressive computer chess?

Best
Frank

Then you'll like FireBird 1.1 Dr.Deeb I

Btw,take a look here:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35996

Even though it's a small sample of games,it does indicate something....

[beachknight]

Hi Harun,

I had a break from 3 years
I am activ since one year again after my ATL-4 league and many years I do a lot for the Arena project.

So far only the SWCR is still running.
SWCR webpages are ready. For this SWCR event is nothing more to do, only to add actual information and from time to time an interesting message in German language for my "Aktuell / Actual" page.

My work for the GERMAN chess newspaper "SCHACHWELT" ended for three months too.

At this times the SWCR is enough for me, because in the next months I don't have so many time for computer chess I had in the last months.

I will try to add more and more engines in SWCR. So far the IPP family engines, more w32 engines in die x64 list for a better calculation from the SWCR with all games (32bit and 64bit games). Then I will add more and more amateurs.

Hiarcs 13.1 w32 will started soon in SWCR-64. Bright 0.5c x64 and IvanHoe T03a x64 too. All need a bit time ...

With other words, not a lot of work I have at this moment with the SWCR because all the work with needs time is done.

Best
Frank

Well, then, I have to agree with Wael

Best to you,

PS: I thought you update the computer chess pages there and I like reading them. I am wondering what the issue with Schachwelt could be?

[beachknight]

Hi Harun,

list of engines I have the most fun. I like agressive computer chess, fast games, great combinations in middle game, don't like endgames.

My personal TOP-8 list so far:

01. Spark 0.5
02. Hiarcs 13.1
03. Junior 11.2
04. Stockfish 1.7.1 JA
05. Hannibal 1.0a / Twisted Logic 20100131x
06. Thinker 5.4d Inert
07. Shredder 12
08. Sjeng WC-2008



What are your top engines which play aggressive computer chess?

Best
Frank

I'd add some of my favourite engines down to the list :

Arasan

Bug2

Crafty

Critter

Doch/Komodo

Frenzee

Loop

Naum

Pharaon

and last

Scorpio

Minor thing with Loop is I am getting either illegal move or time loss in
a dead drawn positions, like only one rook per side or RB v RP on the
board etc. and I have to adj. all those games

These engines and few others not mentioned dont generally draw under 200 moves.

Best,