Spark 1.0 released

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Allard Siemelink
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Re: Spark 1.0 released

Post by Allard Siemelink »

Unfortunately a simple recompile would not do it, as sse2 is
used for atomic hastable updates when searching with multiple cores/threads.

With some work a single cpu generic version would be a possibility,
but I doubt there would be a great demand for this version.
OTOH, any chance for you to upgrade your hardware?
Norm Pollock wrote:Hi Allard,

Any chance for a generic non-ss2 version?

-Norm
Allard Siemelink
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Re: Mr.Siemelink-here is a trade mark problem !

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This is unfortunate news to me, as I had never heard of this SparkChess before.

The first public version of my Spark engine was released in the fall of 2009. When I chose the name Spark in July 2009, I googled for combinations of Spark and chess and found nothing.

According to their faq, http://www.sparkchess.com/faq.html, they changed the name of this engine from flashCHESS to SparkChess sometime in 2010:
Q: I see both SparkChess and flashCHESS mentioned. What's the difference between them?

A: They are the same product. When we created the first game engine in 2002, we called it flashCHESS. Later, in 2008 the third generation of the engine, rewritten from scatch in AS3 took the web by storm and we wanted to keep the name due to its heritage, naming it flashCHESS III. As we're improving yet again the engine, rather than call it flashCHESS IV in 2010, we decided for the name SparkChess.
Needless to say, I would have been happier if they would have chosen a different name while Spark was already out there.
Sylwy wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Sylwy wrote:
Allard Siemelink wrote:Spark 1.0 is now available from http://members.ziggo.nl/allard.siemelink/spar
Hello Mr.Siemelink !

Take a look-please- here:
http://members.ziggo.nl/allard.siemelink/spark/

....and here:
http://www.sparkchess.com/privacy-policy.html

Nothing to do ?

Regards,
Silvian
Looks like they forgot to edit the dates at the bottom of one of their pages:
©2009 Media Division • Privacy Notes • Terms of Use
All rights reserved Media Division srl
Apart from yourself, who has heard of this product before?

Hi Graham !

Take a look-please- at the foot of this web page !
http://www.sparkchess.com/download.html

©2002-2010 Media Division • Privacy Notes • Terms of Use
All rights reserved Media Division ltd.

And yes , this product is well known. Was awarded in 2008 by Adobe. Media Division SRL works with Adobe egineers and is an on-line chess game from many years !
http://www.sparkchess.com/licensing.html

Spark of Mr. Siemelink is only from 2009 !
Hope a trade mark is valid everywhere. Not only for Western products !
The silence of Mr.Siemelink is interesting !

Regards,
Silvian
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Graham Banks
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Re: Mr.Siemelink-here is a trade mark problem !

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Allard Siemelink wrote:This is unfortunate news to me, as I had never heard of this SparkChess before.

The first public version of my Spark engine was released in the fall of 2009. When I chose the name Spark in July 2009, I googled for combinations of Spark and chess and found nothing.

According to their faq, http://www.sparkchess.com/faq.html, they changed the name of this engine from flashCHESS to SparkChess sometime in 2010:
Q: I see both SparkChess and flashCHESS mentioned. What's the difference between them?

A: They are the same product. When we created the first game engine in 2002, we called it flashCHESS. Later, in 2008 the third generation of the engine, rewritten from scatch in AS3 took the web by storm and we wanted to keep the name due to its heritage, naming it flashCHESS III. As we're improving yet again the engine, rather than call it flashCHESS IV in 2010, we decided for the name SparkChess.
Needless to say, I would have been happier if they would have chosen a different name while Spark was already out there.
Sounds like it's an error on their part then and not yours.

Cheers,
Graham.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Sylwy
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Re: Mr.Siemelink-here is a trade mark problem !

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Allard Siemelink wrote:This is unfortunate news to me, as I had never heard of this SparkChess before.

The first public version of my Spark engine was released in the fall of 2009. When I chose the name Spark in July 2009, I googled for combinations of Spark and chess and found nothing.

According to their faq, http://www.sparkchess.com/faq.html, they changed the name of this engine from flashCHESS to SparkChess sometime in 2010:
...................................

Hello Mr.Siemelink

I understand. But SparkChess of Media Division SRL is a registered trade
mark. Yours ?

Regards,
Silvian
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Re: Mr.Siemelink-here is a trade mark problem !

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Sylwy wrote:
Allard Siemelink wrote:This is unfortunate news to me, as I had never heard of this SparkChess before.

The first public version of my Spark engine was released in the fall of 2009. When I chose the name Spark in July 2009, I googled for combinations of Spark and chess and found nothing.

According to their faq, http://www.sparkchess.com/faq.html, they changed the name of this engine from flashCHESS to SparkChess sometime in 2010:
...................................

Hello Mr.Siemelink

I understand. But SparkChess of Media Division SRL is a registered trade
mark. Yours ?

Regards,
Silvian
What's your interest or involvement in this Ruxy?
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Sylwy
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Re: Mr.Siemelink-here is a trade mark problem !

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Graham Banks wrote:
Sylwy wrote:
Allard Siemelink wrote:This is unfortunate news to me, as I had never heard of this SparkChess before.

The first public version of my Spark engine was released in the fall of 2009. When I chose the name Spark in July 2009, I googled for combinations of Spark and chess and found nothing.

According to their faq, http://www.sparkchess.com/faq.html, they changed the name of this engine from flashCHESS to SparkChess sometime in 2010:
...................................

Hello Mr.Siemelink

I understand. But SparkChess of Media Division SRL is a registered trade
mark. Yours ?

Regards,
Silvian
What's your interest or involvement in this Ruxy?

Hi Graham !
Maybe I have one . But your ?

Regards,
Silvian
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Re: Mr.Siemelink-here is a trade mark problem !

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Sylwy wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Sylwy wrote:
Allard Siemelink wrote:This is unfortunate news to me, as I had never heard of this SparkChess before.

The first public version of my Spark engine was released in the fall of 2009. When I chose the name Spark in July 2009, I googled for combinations of Spark and chess and found nothing.

According to their faq, http://www.sparkchess.com/faq.html, they changed the name of this engine from flashCHESS to SparkChess sometime in 2010:
...................................

Hello Mr.Siemelink

I understand. But SparkChess of Media Division SRL is a registered trade
mark. Yours ?

Regards,
Silvian
What's your interest or involvement in this Ruxy?

Hi Graham !
Maybe I have one . But your ?

Regards,
Silvian
Are there two diff. Sparkchess ?

Ok i see above you ask the same question.
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Re: Mr.Siemelink-here is a trade mark problem !

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Sylwy wrote:
Allard Siemelink wrote:This is unfortunate news to me, as I had never heard of this SparkChess before.

The first public version of my Spark engine was released in the fall of 2009. When I chose the name Spark in July 2009, I googled for combinations of Spark and chess and found nothing.

According to their faq, http://www.sparkchess.com/faq.html, they changed the name of this engine from flashCHESS to SparkChess sometime in 2010:
...................................

Hello Mr.Siemelink

I understand. But SparkChess of Media Division SRL is a registered trade
mark. Yours ?

Regards,
Silvian
Hi Silvain,

It appears that neither party has the SparkChess trademark registered, or claim to have registered it.
Anyway, thank you for bringing this issue to my attention.

-Allard
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Re: Mr.Siemelink-here is a trade mark problem !

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Allard Siemelink wrote:
Sylwy wrote:
Allard Siemelink wrote:This is unfortunate news to me, as I had never heard of this SparkChess before.

The first public version of my Spark engine was released in the fall of 2009. When I chose the name Spark in July 2009, I googled for combinations of Spark and chess and found nothing.

According to their faq, http://www.sparkchess.com/faq.html, they changed the name of this engine from flashCHESS to SparkChess sometime in 2010:
...................................

Hello Mr.Siemelink

I understand. But SparkChess of Media Division SRL is a registered trade
mark. Yours ?

Regards,
Silvian
Hi Silvain,

It appears that neither party has the SparkChess trademark registered, or claim to have registered it.
Anyway, thank you for bringing this issue to my attention.

-Allard

Also a double thank you :
-for the interest in this issue;
-for your new chess engine version !

Regards,
Silvian
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Re: Spark 1.0 released

Post by IanO »

I think a default hash of 64M is more appropriate, now that Spark searches more deeply.