CEGT - rating lists December 19th 2010

[Werner]

Hi all,

our actual rating lists are online and can be found under the attached links.

40 / 20:
New games: 2233; 70 different engines
Total: 469.000

NEW Engines
41 Spark 1.0 x64 4CPU: 3053 - 300 games (+40 to version 0.4!)
59 Spark 1.0 x64 2CPU: 3014 - 200 games (+48 to version 0.4!)
124 Spark 1.0 x64 1CPU: 2948 - 324 games (+6 to version 0.5!)

223 Booot 5.1.0: 2885 - 50 games (good start-rating)
715 Redqueen 0.8ß x64 1CPU: 2489 - 388 games (+52 to version 0.75 - but still some time-losses here!)

UPDATES
9 Critter 0.90 x64 6CPU: 3166 - 350 games (+16)
12 Critter 0.90 x64 4CPU: 3156 - 800 games
15 Critter 0.90 x64 2CPU: 3138 - 699 games (-4)

599 Francesca MAD 0.15: 2584 - 506 games (+2)
4 Stockfish 1.9.1 x64 – 4CPU: 3186 – 2693 games (+2)
309 Crafty 23.4 x64 1CPU: 2822 - 594 games (-10)

40 / 4:
Update from Wednesday
New games: 11.250 (!!) - 6000 games from a large tourney.
All games now: 737.154

New Engines

Critter 090 x64 4CPU: 3191 - 400 (+100 but to version 0.70 x64 4CPU)
Spark 1.0 x64 1CPU: 2975 - 1200 (+26 to v. 0.5)
Delphil 2.6b 1CPU: 2438 - 1000 (-21 to v. 2.6a, again no progress)
FrancescaMAD 0.15: 2574 - 450 (+85 to v. 0.13, congrats!)

And 5 more new engines from the large tournament with 32bit engines:
Critter 0.80 w32 1CPU: 3002 - 1100 Partien (-33 to x64)
Gull 1.1 w32: 2929 - 1100 (-59 to x64)
Hannibal 1.0 w32: 2820 - 1100 (-58 to x64)
Spark 0.5 w32 1CPU: 2899 - 1100 (-50 to x64)
Stockfish 1.9 w32 1CPU: 3085 - 1100 (-51 to x64, +27 to 1.8 w32 1CPU)

Some Updates
Critter 0.80 w32 2CPU: 3064 - 1700 (+6)
Plisk 0.2.7d w32 1CPU: 2321 - 900 (-11)

from the tourney:
Deep Shredder 12 w32 1CPU: 2972 - 4406 (+4)
Deep Sjeng ct 2010 w32 1CPU: 2964 - 3100 (+5)
Fruit 090705 w32 1CPU: 2849 - 2100 (-4)
Hiarcs 13.1: 2945 - 5800 (-2)
Komodo 1.2 w32 1CPU: 2922 - 2100 (+8)
Naum 4.2 w32 1CPU: 3006 - 3700 (-3)
Rybka 4.0 w32 1CPU: 3113 - 2700 (0)

40/120
First matches for our single list are running. See more in our forum!

A big „Thank you“ to all testers as usual!!

Links

40/20: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rating.htm
Blitz: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/blitz.htm
40/120: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rating120.htm
Tester: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/testers/testers.htm
Elo-comparison: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/Replay/ ... arison.htm
Games of the week: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... on/gow.jpg

Merry Christmas
Werner Schuele
CEGT-Team

[lucasart]

What about Houdini ? I can see in your forum that it has been intensively tested:

http://cegt.foren-city.de/topic,488,-houdini-1-03a.html

Why isn't it appearing in your list ?

Are you bound by this conspiracy of censorship ?

So what are you going to do ? delete the forum posts ? In any case, who cares for CEGT anymore, as the only true list nowadays is IPON.

[beram]

Hi Werner this is what we want to see !

Hi all,

our actual rating lists are online and can be found under the attached links.

40 / 20:
New games: 2233; 70 different engines
Total: 469.000

NEW Engines
1 Houdini1.5 x64 4CPU 3270 2200 games (+60 to version 1.03a !!)
41 Spark 1.0 x64 4CPU: 3053 - 300 games (+40 to version 0.4!)
59 Spark 1.0 x64 2CPU: 3014 - 200 games (+48 to version 0.4!)
124 Spark 1.0 x64 1CPU: 2948 - 324 games (+6 to version 0.5!)
..

40/20: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rating.htm
Blitz: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/blitz.htm
40/120: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rating120.htm
Tester: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/testers/testers.htm
Elo-comparison: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/Replay/ ... arison.htm
Games of the week: http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... on/gow.jpg

Merry Christmas
Werner Schuele
CEGT-Team

[Engin]

i dont want to see 100 of ippolit clones there !

[silentshark]

i dont want to see 100 of ippolit clones there !

Agreed. By why only 100 clones?

My feeling is this clone business is starting to get a little silly. I mean what's to stop someone taking the ippolit source, tweaking it in 50 different ways, then releasing 50 different, "new" engines with a bunch of funky names?

Alphaman 1.0
Treedude 3.4
Sharpdrink X 4.1
Lightbulb
Brainglass
Teadrinker v7
Airjuice
..

In fact you could probably automate it. Ippolit with some random tweak to its eval, generate a random name, and there you go.. a new engine.. wow (or not). No longer 50 "new" engines, but 500, 5000, 500000 whatever.

And this would just pollute the world of computer chess to a bad degree.

Don't get me wrong the CEGT guys (and other rating list folk) do a brilliant job. But the world of the clones is just plain weird, and kind of out of control imho

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Tom,

but it's more interesting as to test the same engine with 2, 4, 6 cores and to play thousands of such games.

Best
Frank

[Werner]

Thanks Engin and Tom!

CEGT crew has had a poll and most members voted not to test Ippo and co. for the lists.
As every tester can test the engine he likes - we have private tests of these engines - but we do not list them. I think there is the same decision in CCRL Group.

best wishes
Werner

[beram]

Thanks Engin and Tom!

CEGT crew has had a poll and most members voted not to test Ippo and co. for the lists. As every tester can test the engine he likes - we have private tests of these engines - but we do not list them. I think there is the same decision in CCRL Group.

best wishes
Werner

You can no longer ignore the – by far - best engine of the world.
Everybody knows Houdini 1.5 is the best chess engine around and a lot of professional and amateur chessplayers are going to use it and take benefit of it.
You are also denying the incredible effort and significant programming skills of Robert Houdart and behave hypocritic, by using Houdini for testing while not publishing the results.
Others like Ingo Bauer, Frank Quisinsky, Sedat Canbaz have overcome their scepsis, but you still behave as real CCC Taliban.
It is a disgrace. The least you could do is reconsider your "Ippo and co" judgement and choose this unique engine to test.

grts Bram

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Bram,

only the point that Robert Houdert wrote "all is from myself" different other things in Open Chess Forum is a red card for the work "our" programmers do for "us" so many years.

Which such things I have big problems.

The second point is that own things should be add in Houdini. Here Robert give us a proof that he have knowledge from programming and creates with the start sources he used a very strong chess program. This was a clear proof for myself to his chess programming ability.

For my ratinglist is point 1 and point 2 not very important. Because Houdini is a strong computer chess engine and have to fight vs. the others.

Best
Frank

[Graham Banks]

Thanks Engin and Tom!

CEGT crew has had a poll and most members voted not to test Ippo and co. for the lists.
As every tester can test the engine he likes - we have private tests of these engines - but we do not list them. I think there is the same decision in CCRL Group.

best wishes
Werner

Yes, same with CCRL too.

Cheers,
Graham.