SWCR-64: Rybka 4 Exp. 61 x64 scheduled for Dec. 27th, 2010

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Re: big, bigger, biggest, so far "big" disappoint,

Post by beram »

Frank Quisinsky wrote:

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Rank Name                          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 1.5 x64              3004   22   21  1013   82%  2745   26% NEW +  55
   2 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61          2993   40   38   302   81%  2745   25% NEW +  54 to Rybka 4 default, still running ***
   - Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42          2960   23   22   900   78%  2730   26% NEW +  21 to Rybka 4 default
   - Houdini 1.03a x64            2949   22   21   920   79%  2719   29% 
   - Rybka 4 x64                  2939   17   17  1520   80%  2700   29% 
   3 IvanHoe B49jA x64            2932   19   19  1132   76%  2734   33% NEW +   9
11 ELO to Houdini 1.5 x64 is the real difference at the moment!
after 885 from big, bigger, biggest SENSATION to now 2963
more than 3(!) points ahead exp42 setting, what a great setting WOW !
:lol:
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Re: big, bigger, biggest, so far "big" disappoint,

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Bram,

:-)

yes, I wrote ...
Big ... this case we have ... a big sensation
Not a bigger und biggest sensation!

For a bigger or biggest I misst some points more.
So it's a big sensation because 20 ELO more with a settting?

That's what I wrote ... after I believe 200 games I wrote big ... and wait of bigger or biggest :-)

A little "Word game", not more!
Look what I wrote "SO FAR" status = big!

Let us thinking about it ...
I have no case in my brain that a setting produced 20 ELO more. Max. an other playing style, see the settings from TheKing !!

Best
Frank

At the moment after around 900 games, same result Exp. 42 have ... 20 ELO more!
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Re: big, bigger, biggest, so far "big" disappoint,

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi,

for the others!
I added some statistics in CSS Forum.

Rybka 4 Exp. 61 only vs. the TOP 6 ... same ELO Rybka 4 default have.
Rybka 4 Exp. 61 only vs. TOP 7-26 ... 2.975 = 30 points more
Rybka 4 Exp. 61 without the results vs. the strong tactical engines: Stockfish 1.9.1 JA x64, Hannibal 1.0a x64 and Spark 1.0 x64 ... = 2.975, around 30 ELO more too!

Final:
Results are absolutly clear.
Rybka 4 Exp. 42 / 61 is around 20 ELO stronger as default.
Same level vs. the TOP 6 as R4 default and around 35 ELO stronger vs. weaker engines = averagely 20 ELO.

This is clear because this settings produced a clearly more aggressive playing style. But strong tactical engines have more chances to finde the holes in Exp. 61 / 42 and can make some points more.

Ultra easy to see if we look on the results from Exp. 42 / 61 and ultra easy to see if we look in the games!

A very nice test I think ...
But now to the others in SWCR ... have enough from the "fight around place 1 in computer chess".

Best
Frank
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Re: After 903 of 1.000 ...

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Rank Name                          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 1.5 x64              3003   22   21  1037   82%  2749   26% NEW +  55
   2 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61          2959   22   22   903   78%  2743   27% NEW +  20 to Rybka 4 default
   - Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42          2959   23   22   900   78%  2729   26% NEW +  20 to Rybka 4 default
   - Houdini 1.03a x64            2948   22   21   920   79%  2718   29% 
   - Rybka 4 x64                  2939   17   17  1520   80%  2700   29% 
   3 IvanHoe B49jA x64            2931   19   18  1157   76%  2738   33% NEW +   9
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Re: After 903 of 1.000 ...

Post by Denzwell »

Frank Quisinsky wrote:

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Rank Name                          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 1.5 x64              3003   22   21  1037   82%  2749   26% NEW +  55
   2 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61          2959   22   22   903   78%  2743   27% NEW +  20 to Rybka 4 default
   - Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42          2959   23   22   900   78%  2729   26% NEW +  20 to Rybka 4 default
   - Houdini 1.03a x64            2948   22   21   920   79%  2718   29% 
   - Rybka 4 x64                  2939   17   17  1520   80%  2700   29% 
   3 IvanHoe B49jA x64            2931   19   18  1157   76%  2738   33% NEW +   9
Hi franck,

In my tournaments Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 is not strong. The default Rybka beats Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61. I use perfect book 2010 with 10 minutes for timer. The new ivanhoe B47aCax64 is very very strong. You must try it.

You can see my result : http://www.afromaniak.com/lives/

Max
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Re: After 903 of 1.000 ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Max,

each three month a new IvanHoe, or each 4 month.
Thats enough or I am an IvanHoe beta tester :-)

So far are 3.000 games to play, open SWCR-64 tourney, 4.000 games to play with 4 new updates for SWCR-64 and around 8.000 new games to play in SWCR-32 = 15.000 games.

Around 8.000 I can play per month.
So, I have enough test material :-)

Because ...
We have more as IvanHoe only.

But ...
If you can not wait ...

Load the SWCR config files, load the SWCR database and play 1.000 games with IvanHoe you like. Put the game in the SWCR database and we have a result. Must play with the same SWCR conditions. Thats no problem for each one because all material from SWCR is free available.

On an Intel Dual Core ... 35 games can be play per day (with SWCR conditions).

In 28 days you have the SWCR result for the IvanHoe version you like! Problem is in 28 days you will find 5 new IvanHoe versions ... I know, I know :-)

So its enough to test this engine each 3-4 months. Same for other engines, programmers made each month a new update.

Best
Frank
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Re: After 1.000 of 1.000 ... final + download

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

here are the final results (games can be download in my "Aktual page, message 107):

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Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61
Games played December 27th, 2010 - December 31st, 2010

Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Houdini 1.5 x64 (3005)            18.0 -  22.0  45.00%  Perf=2971
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - IvanHoe B49jA x64 (2931)          21.0 -  19.0  52.50%  Perf=2948
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Stockfish 1.9.1 JA x64 (2901)     18.0 -  22.0  45.00%  Perf=2867
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Critter 0.90 x64 (2872)           26.5 -  13.5  66.25%  Perf=2989
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Naum 4.2 x64 (2833)               26.5 -  13.5  66.25%  Perf=2950
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Komodo 1.2 JA x64 (2805)          25.5 -  14.5  63.75%  Perf=2903
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Shredder 12 (2800)                29.0 -  11.0  72.50%  Perf=2968
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Sjeng c't 2010 (2792)             31.0 -   9.0  77.50%  Perf=3006
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - GullChess 1.1 x64 (2787)          31.0 -   9.0  77.50%  Perf=3001
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Spark 1.0 x64 (2755)              29.5 -  10.5  73.75%  Perf=2934
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Thinker 5.4d Inert x64 (2739)     34.5 -   5.5  86.25%  Perf=3057
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Hiarcs 13.1 (2735)                33.0 -   7.0  82.50%  Perf=3004
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Zappa Mexico II x64 (2724)        31.5 -   8.5  78.75%  Perf=2951
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Junior 12.0 x64 (2713)            34.0 -   6.0  85.00%  Perf=3014
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Fruit 09_07_05 x64 (2706)         34.0 -   6.0  85.00%  Perf=3007
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Protector 1.3.6-370 JA x64 (2700) 33.5 -   6.5  83.75%  Perf=2984
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Booot 5.1.0 (2696)                36.0 -   4.0  90.00%  Perf=3077
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Hannibal 1.0a x64 (2683)          31.5 -   8.5  78.75%  Perf=2910
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Onno 1.2.70 x64 (2679)            36.0 -   4.0  90.00%  Perf=3060
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Umko 1.1 x64 (2633)               35.5 -   4.5  88.75%  Perf=2991
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Crafty 23.4 JA x64 (2626)         37.0 -   3.0  92.50%  Perf=3062
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Loop 2007 x64 (2623)              37.5 -   2.5  93.75%  Perf=3093
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Jonny 4.00 (2616)                 37.0 -   3.0  92.50%  Perf=3052
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - Equinox 0.87t x64 (2613)          37.5 -   2.5  93.75%  Perf=3083
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61 - SmarThink 1.20 x64 (2601)         36.0 -   4.0  90.00%  Perf=2982

780.5 - 219.5  78.05%  Perf=2962
1000 von 1000 Partien gespielt

828.5 - 171.5  82.85%  Perf=3014
1000 of 1000 games played

Conditions:
Windows XP Prof. x64 Edition
SClassic 4, Fritz 11 GUI
S12: Random-Book 4.1
F12: Perfect 2010

40 moves in 10 minutes
ponder = on
each engine = 1 core
resign / learning = off
hashtables = 256Mb
4TB Nalimov, GaviotaB., egbb,
ShredderB., TotalB. & TripleB.

Intel® Core™2 Quad
4x Q9550, 2,83GHz
New SWCR rating list:

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76.178 SWCR games
Last update: December 31st, 2010 (06:30)
Next update: January  03th, 2010

At the moment *19* updates will be added!

118. x64 Rybka 4 Exp. 61           Update   Started: 27.12.2010  * ended
117. x64 Houdini 1.5               Update   Started: 23.12.2010  * ended
116. x32 Booot 5.1.0               NEW      Started: 15.12.2010  * ended
115. x64 Spark 1.0                 Update   Started: 15.12.2010  * ended
114. x64 IvanHoe B49jA             Update   Started: 10.12.2010  * ended
113. x64 GullChess 1.1             Update   Started: 06.12.2010  * ended
112. x64 Critter 0.90              Update   Started: 03.12.2010  * ended
111. x64 Umko 1.1 x64              Update   Started: 29.11.2010  * ended
110. x64 Rybka 4 Exp. 42           Update   Started: 11.11.2010  ** still running
109. w32 Zarkov 6.44               NEW      Started: 11.11.2010  ** still running
108. x64 Tornado 4.25              Update   Started: 11.11.2010  ** still running
107. x64 Crafty 23.4 JA            Update   Started: 10.11.2010  ** still running
106. w32 Sjeng c't 2010            Update   Started: 10.11.2010  ** still running
105. x64 Stockfish 1.9.1 JA        Update   Started: 08.11.2010  ** still running
104. x64 Equinox 0.87t             Update   Started: 07.11.2010  ** still running
103. x64 Junior 12.0 31.10.10      Update   Started: 07.11.2010  ** still running
102. x64 Gaviota 0.80              NEW      Started: 07.11.2010  ** still running
101. x64 Protector 1.3.6 Rev. 370  Update   Started: 07.11.2010  ** still running
100. w32 Jonny 4.00                Again    Started: 07.22.3020  ** still running


Rank Name                          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Houdini 1.5 x64              3004   22   21  1040   82%  2749   26% NEW +  56
   2 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 61          2960   21   21  1000   78%  2743   27% NEW +  21 to Rybka 4 default
   - Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42          2959   23   22   900   78%  2729   26% NEW +  20 to Rybka 4 default
   - Houdini 1.03a x64            2948   22   21   920   79%  2718   29% 
   - Rybka 4 x64                  2939   17   17  1520   80%  2700   29% 
   3 IvanHoe B49jA x64            2932   19   18  1160   76%  2738   34% NEW +  10
   - IvanHoe B52aC x64            2922   21   21   880   77%  2728   34% 
   4 Stockfish 1.8.0 JA x64       2906   18   18  1200   75%  2715   33% 
   - Stockfish 1.9.1 JA x64       2906   20   20   939   71%  2740   34% NEW +-  0
   - Rybka 3 x64                  2905   23   22   840   78%  2687   28% 
   - Fire 1.31 x64                2901   20   20   920   75%  2721   36% 
   - Stockfish 1.7.1 JA x64       2896   19   18  1120   76%  2706   34% 
   - Stockfish 1.9.1 JA           2893   21   20   960   78%  2689   31% 
   - Rybka 4                      2891   18   18  1200   76%  2695   32% 
   - Stockfish 1.7.1 JA           2873   18   18  1200   75%  2688   31% 
   5 Critter 0.90 x64             2871   17   17  1200   68%  2741   37% NEW +  35
   - Stockfish 1.8.0 JA           2861   20   20   920   74%  2695   37% 
   - Rybka 3                      2858   16   16  1520   74%  2688   31% 
   - Critter 0.80 x64             2836   16   16  1525   67%  2705   33% 
   6 Naum 4.2 x64                 2833   13   13  2365   65%  2719   36% 
   - Stockfish 1.6.3 JA           2825   18   18  1080   71%  2678   36% 
   - Naum 4.2                     2822   15   15  1680   68%  2695   35% 
   - Critter 0.80                 2814   18   18  1040   67%  2694   37% 
   - Naum 4.1                     2810   20   19   920   68%  2684   35% 
   - Critter 0.70 x64             2807   20   20   880   65%  2701   38% 
   7 Komodo 1.2 JA x64            2806   13   13  2124   62%  2717   39% 
   - Stockfish 1.6.0 JA           2800   19   19   960   68%  2686   39% 
   8 Shredder 12                  2800    9    9  4565   63%  2707   36% 
   9 Sjeng c't 2010               2791   19   19   940   56%  2744   38% NEW + 104
   - Komodo 1.0 JA x64            2790   20   20   840   64%  2692   40% 
   - Shredder 12 x64              2787   15   15  1600   63%  2690   34% 
  10 GullChess 1.1 x64            2786   17   17  1160   56%  2743   37% NEW +  16
   - Naum 4.0                     2783   19   19   960   65%  2680   38% 
  11 Deep Fritz 12                2779   14   14  1760   62%  2698   41% 
   - Critter 0.70                 2775   19   19   920   61%  2701   39% 
   - GullChess 1.0a x64           2770   16   16  1326   57%  2717   38% 
   - Komodo 1.2 JA                2758   17   16  1200   58%  2699   41% 
  12 Spark 1.0 x64                2756   17   17  1120   52%  2744   41% NEW +  17
   - GullChess 1.0a               2745   18   18   960   58%  2695   39% 
   - Fritz 12                     2744   16   16  1160   59%  2686   44% 
   - Spark 0.5 x64                2739   13   13  1964   54%  2707   37% 
  13 Thinker 5.4d Inert x64       2739   12   12  2366   52%  2720   39% 
  14 Hiarcs 13.1                  2735   11   11  2766   52%  2722   38% 
   - Stockfish 1.5.1 JA           2729   19   19   840   59%  2670   43% 
  15 Zappa Mexico II x64          2725   12   12  2364   50%  2721   40% 
   - Spark 0.4 x64                2717   20   20   840   53%  2696   40% 
   - Komodo 1.0 JA                2714   16   16  1200   53%  2693   40% 
  16 Junior 12.0 x64              2712   19   20   941   45%  2746   32% NEW +  31
  17 Protector 1.3.4 JA x64       2711   14   14  1720   50%  2711   37% 
   - Thinker 5.4d Inert           2710   12   12  2240   52%  2698   42% 
   - Spark 0.5                    2707   17   17  1200   51%  2701   41%  
  18 Fruit 09_07_05 x64           2706   12   12  2366   48%  2721   33% 
   - Critter 0.60 x64             2700   20   20   840   50%  2697   38% 
   - Protector 1.3.6-370 JA x64   2699   19   19   941   44%  2746   33% NEW -  12
  19 Booot 5.1.0                  2694   18   18  1080   42%  2754   37% NEW
   - Doch 1.3.4 JA                2688   19   19   840   51%  2685   44% 
   - Sjeng WC-2008 x64            2687   14   14  1760   47%  2711   36% 
   - Critter 0.60                 2686   19   19   920   50%  2687   39% 
   - Junior 11.2                  2685   17   17  1200   48%  2702   33% 
   - Spark 0.4                    2685   19   19   880   49%  2690   42% 
   - Protector 1.3.5 x64          2684   20   20   840   47%  2707   39% 
  20 Hannibal 1.0a x64            2684   14   14  1806   43%  2732   35% 
   - Junior 11.2 x64              2681   15   15  1520   47%  2706   30% 
  21 Onno 1.2.70 x64              2679   13   13  2125   45%  2719   36% 
   - Protector 1.3.4 JA           2678   14   14  1600   47%  2699   39% 
   - Cyclone xTreme Wrath         2674   17   17  1080   47%  2696   41% 
   - Protector 1.3.2              2672   16   17  1160   47%  2694   41% 
   - Onno 1.1.1 x64               2670   20   20   840   46%  2698   40% 
   - Protector 1.3.5 JA           2668   20   20   840   44%  2710   42% 
   - Junior 2010                  2667   16   16  1240   47%  2689   36% 
   - Hiarcs 12.1                  2666   19   19   880   47%  2688   41% 
   - Protector 1.3.1b             2665   19   19   840   47%  2688   42% 
   - Sjeng WC-2008                2664   12   12  2240   45%  2699   37% 
   - Doch 1.2 JA                  2664   19   19   840   48%  2677   40% 
   - Hiarcs 12.1 Sharpen PV       2663   16   16  1280   45%  2697   39% 
   - Zappa Mexico II              2660   12   12  2240   44%  2699   42% 
   - Spark 0.3a                   2654   17   17  1120   44%  2696   41% 
   - Doch 09.980 JA               2650   19   19   840   46%  2674   42% 
   - Junior 11.1a x64             2647   20   20   840   43%  2699   32% 
   - Junior 11.1a                 2644   19   19   960   44%  2690   36% 
   - Spark 0.3                    2641   19   19   880   43%  2689   42% 
   - Hannibal 1.0a                2635   18   18  1080   40%  2703   36% 
   - Bright 0.5c                  2634   19   19   960   41%  2699   35% 
   - Onno 1.2.70                  2634   16   17  1200   40%  2704   40% 
  22 Umko 1.1 x64                 2633   17   17  1240   34%  2752   34% NEW +  23
   - Onno 1.1.1                   2629   15   15  1520   40%  2694   41% 
  23 Loop M1-T x64                2629   19   19   960   36%  2735   36% 
  24 Crafty 23.4 JA x64           2625   20   20   944   33%  2749   32% NEW +  27
   - Loop 2007 x64                2622   13   13  2166   37%  2723   34% 
  25 Jonny 4.00                   2616   14   14  1904   35%  2724   31% NEW
   - Fruit 05/11/03               2614   12   12  2240   38%  2699   41% 
   - Loop 13.6                    2613   15   15  1520   38%  2694   39% 
  26 Equinox 0.87t x64            2612   20   20   944   32%  2749   31% NEW +  12
   - Critter 0.52b                2612   18   18  1040   38%  2697   37% 
   - Twisted Logic 20100131x x64  2611   18   18  1120   35%  2716   32% 
   - Umko 1.0 x64                 2610   17   17  1200   34%  2725   37% (ponder not possible)
   - Glaurung 2.2 JA              2608   17   18  1080   37%  2698   36% 
   - Loop 2007                    2608   17   17  1200   36%  2704   35% 
  27 Ktulu 9.03                   2607   14   14  1760   37%  2701   31% 
  28 SmarThink 1.20 x64           2601   13   13  2363   34%  2723   33% 
   - Equinox 0.83 x64             2600   18   18  1160   32%  2733   32% 
   - Crafty 23.3 JA x64           2598   17   17  1200   33%  2725   34% 
   - SmarThink 1.20               2593   12   13  2240   35%  2700   37% 
   - Equinox 0.83                 2578   19   19   960   33%  2702   34% 
   - Twisted Logic 20100131x      2572   15   15  1600   32%  2705   30% 
  29 Spike 1.2 Turin              2571   16   16  1480   31%  2706   34% 
   - Cipollino 3.25 x64           2568   20   20   960   28%  2737   30% 
   - Crafty 23.3 JA               2563   19   20   960   31%  2702   32% 
  30 BugChess2 1.7 x64            2559   18   18  1200   27%  2732   30% 
   - Crafty 23.2 JA x64           2554   18   19  1120   28%  2718   30% 
  31 Scorpio 2.6 JA x64           2554   18   18  1200   27%  2727   31% 
  32 Chronos 1.99 x64             2551   18   18  1120   27%  2718   33% (ponder not possible)
  32 Tornado 4.25 x64             2551   23   24   744   28%  2719   25% NEW +  71
   - Crafty 23.3 JA x64 NP        2548   20   20   960   25%  2738   30% (test without ponder)
  34 Daydreamer 1.75 JA x64       2521   19   19  1120   24%  2719   30% 
   - Tornado 3.6.7 x64            2480   23   24   840   19%  2726   24% 
  35 Zarkov 6.44                  2475   27   27   624   20%  2713   25% NEW
  36 Gaviota 0.80 x64             2370   31   33   624   12%  2718   15% NEW
For all readers ...
Have a good new year 2011 !!!

Best
Frank
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