CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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The latest CCRL Rating Lists and Statistics are available for viewing from the following links:
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.live/ (40/40)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404.live/ (40/4)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404FRC/ (FRC 40/4)

Please note that the three lists are updated separately to each other.
The links given in each update report will give you the currently up to date lists.

The links to the various rating lists can be found just beneath the default Best Versions list (as in this screenshot). Specific 32-bit rating lists are denoted as such to the right of the default list in each category. The default lists contain the 64-bit engines.

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Our 40 moves in 40 minutes repeating and 40 moves in 4 minutes repeating are both adjusted to the AMD64 X2 4600+ (2.4GHz).

Be aware that in the early stages of testing, an engine's rating can often fluctuate a lot.
It is strongly advised to look at the many other rating lists available in order to get a more accurate overall picture of an engine's rating relative to others.

The LOS (likelihood of superiority) stats to the right hand side of each rating list tell you the likelihood in percentage terms of each engine being superior to the engine directly below them.

All games are available for download by engine, by month or by ECO code.
The current ELO ratings are saved in all game databases for those engines that have 200 games or more.

Clicking on an engine name will give details as to opponents played plus homepage links where applicable.

Custom lists of engines can be selected for comparison.

An openings report page lists the number of games played by ECO codes with draw percentage and White win percentage. Clicking on a column heading will sort the list by that column.

Thanks to all testers who contributed to this update.
For any testers interested in joining our group, please read our homepage before applying. At present we'd be interested in hearing from anybody who'd be prepared to do 4CPU testing.
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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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great !

thx Graham, and i wish you happy new year 2011 now!
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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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Engin wrote:great !

thx Graham, and i wish you happy new year 2011 now!
Happy New Year to you also Engin and to the other engine authors too. :)
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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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Engin wrote:great !

thx Graham, and i wish you happy new year 2011 now!
Just as an aside, did you notice how well Tornado 4.4 did in the FRC list?

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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Happy New Year!!!

There's something wrong with the CCRL lists because the strongest chess engine ever is not present and should be at no.1. Why??!!

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paulo wrote:Happy New Year!!!

There's something wrong with the CCRL lists because the strongest chess engine ever is not present and should be at no.1. Why??!!

Regards,
Paulo
Happy New Year to you also.

We currently choose not to test Houdini because of its dubious origins, just as we choose not to test any other Ippo engines.
However, I think that you already knew that. :wink:

There are other rating lists that do include them, so you can always look at those.

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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Graham Banks wrote:The latest CCRL Rating Lists and Statistics are available for viewing from the following links:
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.live/ (40/40)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404.live/ (40/4)
http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404FRC/ (FRC 40/4)

Please note that the three lists are updated separately to each other.
The links given in each update report will give you the currently up to date lists.

The links to the various rating lists can be found just beneath the default Best Versions list (as in this screenshot). Specific 32-bit rating lists are denoted as such to the right of the default list in each category. The default lists contain the 64-bit engines.

Image

Our 40 moves in 40 minutes repeating and 40 moves in 4 minutes repeating are both adjusted to the AMD64 X2 4600+ (2.4GHz).

Be aware that in the early stages of testing, an engine's rating can often fluctuate a lot.
It is strongly advised to look at the many other rating lists available in order to get a more accurate overall picture of an engine's rating relative to others.

The LOS (likelihood of superiority) stats to the right hand side of each rating list tell you the likelihood in percentage terms of each engine being superior to the engine directly below them.

All games are available for download by engine, by month or by ECO code.
The current ELO ratings are saved in all game databases for those engines that have 200 games or more.

Clicking on an engine name will give details as to opponents played plus homepage links where applicable.

Custom lists of engines can be selected for comparison.

An openings report page lists the number of games played by ECO codes with draw percentage and White win percentage. Clicking on a column heading will sort the list by that column.

Thanks to all testers who contributed to this update.
For any testers interested in joining our group, please read our homepage before applying. At present we'd be interested in hearing from anybody who'd be prepared to do 4CPU testing.

Your rating list is meaningless. Why even post it. Enoght said.
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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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mwyoung wrote:Your rating list is meaningless. Why even post it. Enoght said.
Well a search of your post history would indicate why you think this way. Also I thought you were done here anyway?

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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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Graham Banks wrote:
paulo wrote:Happy New Year!!!

There's something wrong with the CCRL lists because the strongest chess engine ever is not present and should be at no.1. Why??!!

Regards,
Paulo
Happy New Year to you also.

We currently choose not to test Houdini because of its dubious origins, just as we choose not to test any other Ippo engines.
However, I think that you already knew that. :wink:

There are other rating lists that do include them, so you can always look at those.

Cheers,
Graham.
Graham,

Yes, I know the reason you don't rate the strongest engine is because you believe it is a derivative of Ippo, the later being a 'clone' of Rybka as you also believe. This is too much believing you ought to admit. The fact is that Houdini is clearly the strongest chess engine at the moment and looking at its evolution since version 1.0 we must conclude its author, Robert Houdart, is a very skilled programmer also with a good chess knowledge that knows exactly what he's doing. Like Vas did a few years ago having innovative ideas to improve the strength of the best engines of that time, Robert had it now, so what's the problem accepting that?

Even considering Ippo is a reverse-engineering of Rybka and that Houdini is totally based on Ippo -- something yet to be proved, as Houdini's acknowledgments refer just 'ideas' -- it's hard for me to believe you don't give any credit to its author and to his latest achievement: Houdini 1.5

Just suppose I have the motivation to write a chess engine and that I think I have a few innovative ideas to change the evaluation function, the search or other component I see on Stockifish or Ivanhoe. How should I start? I tell you, since I have many years of accumulated experience working professionally as an Asmx86/C/C++ developer, I'd try to pick the best ideas from whatever source I could get and from all the state-of-the art information I could gather, after that I would start coding. On the coding phase I'd try to squeeze every bit of performance I could and I wouldn't mind for sure to use some snippets of code already squeezed by others obviously if I thought I couldn't optimize it further. As you should know a rule of thumb in the art of computer programming is: don't waste your precious time re-inventing the wheel.

Later, if the final result of my work was an engine clear superior from those I had took most of the ideas would you still call it a clone Graham? If your answer is yes, I'm sorry to tell but it means you have absolutely no idea about the process how a computer program is designed and developed.

Cheers!
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Re: CCRL rating lists updated (30th December 2010)

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indeed, i had checked, really not bad, it is increased about over +123 elo !!, so i see on standard 40/40 rating list that its nearly +100 elo increased too, but i am waiting that will be stable and a +80 elo is ok, the CEGT say +81 over 4.3

seems thats good news for 2011 :))