Hi,
The new schedule has been posted:
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/n ... .php?id=64
I hope it will help attract more participants.
Rémi
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Re: WCCC Schedule + Book Rules + programmers representative
This gets better: now you need MS Excel to even read the schedule :/
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So far as I know, in 1989 Murray was a DT team member. I think the last time he worked on Hitech was 1986. Hsu had his first chip ready for the 1986 ACM event (we did not attend as it came too close to the 1986 WCCC event and getting machine time was difficult). Chiptest did terribly in 1986, until the bugs were fixed, It hardly lost after that. There was some _really_ bad blood at CMU between the Hitech and DT groups. I think Hsu's book alludes to this somewhere, although he might have told me more gory details via private email...Gerd Isenberg wrote:bob wrote:The book author rule didn't really come from Murray in the DT/Hitech issue.
Interesting, so in this last round game, where the winner would be world champion, Murray Campbell had the choice? And had already left Hitech team and was Deep Thought team member? Even if this particular opening looks innocent.Code: Select all
[Event "6th World Computer Chess Championship"] [Site "Edmonton, Canada"] [Date "1989.05.31"] [Round "5"] [White "Hitech"] [Black "Deep Thought"] [Result "0-1"] 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Bf4 e6 4. e3 Nc6 5. Nbd2 Be7 6. h3 O-O 7. Be2 Nh5 8. Bh2 g6 9. O-O f5 10. Be5 Nxe5 11. Nxe5 Nf6 12. c4 c5 13. Ndf3 Bd6 14. a3 Qc7 15. Rc1 a5 16. Qb3 b6 17. Qa4 Bb7 18. Rc2 Kh8 19. cxd5 Bxd5 20. Rd1 Rad8 21. Bb5 Ne4 22. Nd7 Rg8 23. Nfe5 Rg7 24. Rd3 Be7 25. Rd1 h5 26. Rdc1 Bg5 27. Re1 Bh4 28. Rf1 Be7 29. Rfc1 g5 30. f3 Nf6 31. Kf1 g4 32. hxg4 hxg4 33. f4 Be4 34. Rd2 Nd5 35. Re2 Rh7 36. Ree1 Nxe3+ 37. Kg1 Nd5 38. Ng6+ Kg7 39. Nxe7 Qxf4 40. Nxf5+ exf5 41. Rxe4 Qxc1+ 42. Bf1 fxe4 43. Qb3 Rh1+ 44. Kxh1 Qxf1+ 45. Kh2 Rh8+ 46. Qh3 g3+ 47. Kxg3 Qf4# 0-1
WCCC 1999 Paderborn:bob wrote:It came from Bruce Moreland who raised the (valid) issue "Do I really have to face a book written by Alex Kure twice in the same tournament? Which might have been maybe Fritz and Chess Tiger but I am not sure,
Fritz and Nimzo with Kure books, Tiger and Rebel with Noomen books, P.ConNerS and Zugzwang with Matthias books, and likely Cilkchess and Mini with Kaufman books and even Don Dailey as engine author.
I'm trying to remember the specifics in 1989 as I was there, but I really don't recall. When I get to my office tomorrow, I can probably locate the tournament booklet that was printed for each event, which gave all the specifics about team members, hardware and such...
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From a many-time participant, I'd be quite happy sitting at a table with two terminals so we can see what both programs are thinking, with a graphical display projected above the table so that spectators could watch. Then we can actually talk, kibitz, look at other games, etc... To me it would not detract to get rid of the wood for CC events... The wood boards introduce unnecessary issues, such as making the wrong move, what about the ponder time that was lost, forgetting to hit the clock, completely missing a move while talking and letting your clock burn, etc...stegemma wrote:I think that an automated tourney could means the dead of the WCCC. To have people facing through a wooden chessboard is the reason for this kind of tourney. I know, to operate a machine while it is the machine that play can be very annoying and sometimes frustrating [when you finally get the last place in the tourney, just to provide a sample that i really know]. But, the phisical stress in wich everyone is involved it's not a part of the game? When i play chess (human chess, not software) i always say that "even the clock is a piece". The clock obviously is not a piece... but it is so important to handle time in the best way that i say that. The same could be human stress in software competitions: even the human is... a part of the playing software!
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So you think about an automated tourney but with both the interfaces viewable, not just a computer-computer match (like the numerous tourney that we can find on internet). Maybe the wood board could be there, in front of the oppoents, so that they can try variants "by hand" or just play one against the other. I've done a fast game against Muller in Milan, after the loss of Freccia and it was very interesting and somehow strange...bob wrote: From a many-time participant, I'd be quite happy sitting at a table with two terminals so we can see what both programs are thinking, with a graphical display projected above the table so that spectators could watch. Then we can actually talk, kibitz, look at other games, etc... To me it would not detract to get rid of the wood for CC events... The wood boards introduce unnecessary issues, such as making the wrong move, what about the ponder time that was lost, forgetting to hit the clock, completely missing a move while talking and letting your clock burn, etc...
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Notice that even on online events like CCT and ACCA tournaments, opponents kibitz information so that everyone can see what the programs are thinking... I think that adds a lot...stegemma wrote:So you think about an automated tourney but with both the interfaces viewable, not just a computer-computer match (like the numerous tourney that we can find on internet). Maybe the wood board could be there, in front of the oppoents, so that they can try variants "by hand" or just play one against the other. I've done a fast game against Muller in Milan, after the loss of Freccia and it was very interesting and somehow strange...bob wrote: From a many-time participant, I'd be quite happy sitting at a table with two terminals so we can see what both programs are thinking, with a graphical display projected above the table so that spectators could watch. Then we can actually talk, kibitz, look at other games, etc... To me it would not detract to get rid of the wood for CC events... The wood boards introduce unnecessary issues, such as making the wrong move, what about the ponder time that was lost, forgetting to hit the clock, completely missing a move while talking and letting your clock burn, etc...
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I have a system for automatically updating the univ-lille3 web site during games. Participants would only have to write the PGN somewhere on the network (they can include comments with evaluation). I certainly won't have time to set this up, and take care of its administration during the tournament. But if a participant wishes to do it, I can explain.
I will ask Jaap if he has any plan for live coverage.
Rémi
I will ask Jaap if he has any plan for live coverage.
Rémi
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This one seems good, for me.Rémi Coulom wrote:Hi,
The new schedule has been posted:
http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/n ... .php?id=64
I hope it will help attract more participants.
Rémi
Maybe you can add some simple award (a little medal is enough) for something like:
- the best non european software (for those who travel long to reach the tourney)
- the best european software (to give some very little contribute to a true european integration)
- the younger/older programmer...
...and so on.
I know, with little number of partecipants this could appear useless... as the perfct thread

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Note that those using XBoard / WinBoard as interface can use the ChessLive! viewer to provide live coverage of the game. Of course an intrinsic problem of covering a game through the interface of only one of the participants is that you cannot be aware of the evaluation of both players.Rémi Coulom wrote:I have a system for automatically updating the univ-lille3 web site during games. Participants would only have to write the PGN somewhere on the network (they can include comments with evaluation). I certainly won't have time to set this up, and take care of its administration during the tournament. But if a participant wishes to do it, I can explain.
I will ask Jaap if he has any plan for live coverage.
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That looks like a good solution. I suppose it would be no problem to have both opponents broadcast their game that way.hgm wrote:Note that those using XBoard / WinBoard as interface can use the ChessLive! viewer to provide live coverage of the game. Of course an intrinsic problem of covering a game through the interface of only one of the participants is that you cannot be aware of the evaluation of both players.Rémi Coulom wrote:I have a system for automatically updating the univ-lille3 web site during games. Participants would only have to write the PGN somewhere on the network (they can include comments with evaluation). I certainly won't have time to set this up, and take care of its administration during the tournament. But if a participant wishes to do it, I can explain.
I will ask Jaap if he has any plan for live coverage.
Jaap told me he is planning something so I won't bother much about this question.
Rémi