SWCR: Oldie-Mix after 2.079 of 15.120 games
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Graham Banks
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: After *3.872* of 15.120 games + Fritz 13 test
Hi Graham,
yes, thanks ... you are welcome.
But it need to many time. For much other of the visitors to long. For me very nice, because I have time to visiting a lot of games
More interesting are your smaller tourneys with a lot more of these very interesting amateurs.
My own SWCR concept with 40 games pro match or 32bit are playing vs. 32bit only and so on put me a spoke in the way to make all more interesting for visitors.
Unfortunately, AnMon is on the latest place
My good and old favorite engine with Zarkov and Phalanx. Phalanx don't play here, not strong enough for this tourney.
Best
Frank
yes, thanks ... you are welcome.
But it need to many time. For much other of the visitors to long. For me very nice, because I have time to visiting a lot of games
More interesting are your smaller tourneys with a lot more of these very interesting amateurs.
My own SWCR concept with 40 games pro match or 32bit are playing vs. 32bit only and so on put me a spoke in the way to make all more interesting for visitors.
Unfortunately, AnMon is on the latest place
My good and old favorite engine with Zarkov and Phalanx. Phalanx don't play here, not strong enough for this tourney.
Best
Frank
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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: After *3.872* of 15.120 games + Fritz 13 test
Hello dear Frank,
Good work as always !
Your rating list is just fantastic, well-done !
What i like and impress me the most in your work:how systematically you are testing the engines!
Best Regards,
Sedat
Good work as always !
Your rating list is just fantastic, well-done !
What i like and impress me the most in your work:how systematically you are testing the engines!
Best Regards,
Sedat
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: After *3.872* of 15.120 games + Fritz 13 test
Hi Sedat,
this one is most complicated for myself. Many engine updates are to allow. Often I have to set a priority and much of the visitors don't like it. But all in all with 4 quad core systems all should be to organize. I think 16 cores are more as enough for such a list with the conditions I am using.
At the moment Fritz 13 is still running without LIVE result mode. To many problems in the still running round robins. Many time loses. Games I have later to replay. Fritz GUI have problems if one of the engines crashed. Most problems here I have with IvanHoe and Jonny. Equinox don't work under Fritz 13 GUI. And so one. I will be lucky if this test is over.
If ready the Oldie-Mix will run with full power again, means 16/16 cores, so far with 08/16 cores only because Fritz 13 is running too. Not sure, on the other hand I should make a Fritz 13 test for SWCR-64, not only for SWCR-32. Could be interesting to compare the results. But this is many work with the problems I have here.
The Oldie-Mix tourney runs with smaller problems. No bigger problems, all works fine ... can be run
For yourself:
Fritz 13 results, time loses are not in the database ...
Have a look on the remis quote.
Not nice the playing style from the new Fritz 13. Very boring playing style. Can't see the tactical monster Fritz are in the versions before 10.
Best
Frank
this one is most complicated for myself. Many engine updates are to allow. Often I have to set a priority and much of the visitors don't like it. But all in all with 4 quad core systems all should be to organize. I think 16 cores are more as enough for such a list with the conditions I am using.
At the moment Fritz 13 is still running without LIVE result mode. To many problems in the still running round robins. Many time loses. Games I have later to replay. Fritz GUI have problems if one of the engines crashed. Most problems here I have with IvanHoe and Jonny. Equinox don't work under Fritz 13 GUI. And so one. I will be lucky if this test is over.
If ready the Oldie-Mix will run with full power again, means 16/16 cores, so far with 08/16 cores only because Fritz 13 is running too. Not sure, on the other hand I should make a Fritz 13 test for SWCR-64, not only for SWCR-32. Could be interesting to compare the results. But this is many work with the problems I have here.
The Oldie-Mix tourney runs with smaller problems. No bigger problems, all works fine ... can be run
For yourself:
Fritz 13 results, time loses are not in the database ...
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42 Rybka 3 w32 2859 16 16 1520 74% 2689 31%
43 Komodo 1.3 JA x64 2839 16 16 1280 59% 2771 39%
44 Naum 4.2 x64 2832 10 10 3840 62% 2738 36%
45 Critter 0.80 x64 2829 15 15 1680 67% 2699 33%
46 Stockfish 1.6.3 JA w32 2826 18 18 1080 71% 2679 36%
47 Naum 4.2 w32 2825 11 11 3094 65% 2716 37%
48 Chiron 1.1 x64 2823 17 17 1200 58% 2762 39%
49 Fritz 13 2817 27 27 458 64% 2719 46%
50 Critter 0.80 w32 2814 18 18 1040 67% 2694 37%
51 Critter 0.70 x64 2810 19 18 1040 66% 2696 37%
52 Naum 4.1 w32 2810 19 19 1000 67% 2693 35%
53 Komodo 1.2 JA x64 2803 13 12 2280 62% 2712 39%
54 Stockfish 1.6.0 JA w32 2802 18 18 1000 67% 2691 39%
55 Shredder 12 w32 2800 7 8 7415 60% 2726 37%
56 GullChess 1.2 x64 2790 14 14 1800 52% 2771 40%
57 Sjeng c't 2010 w32 2790 9 9 5294 57% 2740 38%
58 Shredder 12 x64 2786 15 15 1600 63% 2689 34%
59 Naum 4.0 w32 2785 18 18 1000 65% 2686 38%
60 Komodo 1.0 JA x64 2785 18 18 1040 65% 2684 40%
61 GullChess 1.1 x64 2785 17 17 1160 56% 2742 37%
62 Spike 1.4 Leiden w32 2782 8 8 5133 56% 2733 37%
63 Deep Fritz 12 w32 2779 14 14 1760 62% 2698 41%
64 Critter 0.70 w32 2776 18 18 1000 60% 2709 40%
65 Komodo 1.3 JA w32 2774 19 19 1000 63% 2683 36%
66 GullChess 1.0a x64 2771 15 15 1480 58% 2709 37%
67 Protector 1.4.0 JA x64 2769 14 14 1800 50% 2772 37%
68 GullChess 1.2 w32 2762 17 17 1175 50% 2760 39%
69 Junior 12.5.0.3 x64 2761 14 14 1920 50% 2757 36%
70 Komodo 1.2 JA w32 2759 17 17 1200 58% 2700 41%
71 Spark 1.0 x64 2758 12 12 2440 49% 2765 40%
72 Hiarcs 13.2 w32 2758 10 10 3615 52% 2747 39%
73 Junior 12.5.0.3 w32 2751 17 17 1174 49% 2761 34%
74 GullChess 1.0a w32 2747 18 18 1000 57% 2699 40%
75 Fritz 12 w32 2745 17 17 1160 59% 2688 44% Not nice the playing style from the new Fritz 13. Very boring playing style. Can't see the tactical monster Fritz are in the versions before 10.
Best
Frank
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: After *4.318* of 15.120 games + Fritz 13 test
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SWCR : 150.756 games #Time control: 40/10 "repeatedly"
Last update : November 21st, 2011 #Game average: 40 minutes, move average = 85
#Resign : OFF
LIVE 1 : Oldie-Mix #Ponder : ON
Cores : 08/16 (for SWCR-32) #Learning : OFF
To play : 10.802 of 15.120 #Endgames : 4-pieces, 32Mb cache
#Opening book: Own PGN random 5.10 book
not LIVE : Fritz 13 w32 #GUI : Shredder Classic 4 / Arena
Cores : 08/16 (for SWCR-32) #OS : Windows XP Pro. x64 Edition
To play : 842 of 1.400 #Processors : Intel® Core™2Q, 4xQ9550 2,83GHz
: Intel® Core™i7, 1x720 1,60GHz
#Cores : 1 core for each engine
Database : 145.880 games #Hash-Tables : 256Mb
Updated : October 31st, 2011 #Games : 1.000 per engine minimal
NAME / version of engine ELO + - GAM SC OP DR
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50 Fritz 13 w32 2812 24 24 558 64% 2719 47% NEW, still running
55 Shredder 12 w32 2800 7 8 7417 60% 2726 37%
63 Deep Fritz 12 w32 2779 14 14 1760 62% 2698 41%
75 Fritz 12 w32 2745 17 17 1160 59% 2687 44%
85 Spark 1.0 w32 2714 13 13 2124 53% 2690 35% Again
92 Hannibal 1.1 w32 2703 16 15 1447 50% 2701 37% Again
142 Glaurung 2.2 JA w32 2613 16 16 1408 44% 2656 36% Again
154 SmarThink 1.20 w32 2593 11 10 3325 37% 2686 35% Again
158 Frenzee 3.5.19 w32 2578 33 33 328 59% 2515 29% NEW, still running
168 ChessTiger 2007 1.0012 w32 2559 11 11 3767 29% 2721 31% Again
175 Alfil 8.1.1 Optimized w32 2526 32 32 309 54% 2501 37% NEW, still running
176 Alaric 7.07 w32 2524 33 33 309 53% 2501 32% NEW, still running
179 Dirty 25.08.2011 w32 2511 33 33 309 52% 2500 32% NEW, still running
180 Colossus 2008b w32 2507 32 32 308 51% 2501 37% NEW, still running
181 ETChess 13.01.2008 w32 2493 32 32 309 49% 2501 36% NEW, still running
182 Gandalf 6.0.0.3 w32 2490 33 33 309 49% 2500 34% NEW, still running
183 SlowChess Blitz WV 2.1 w32 2485 32 32 308 48% 2501 35% NEW, still running
184 Deuterium 11.1.28.59 w32 2483 33 33 308 47% 2502 31% NEW, still running
186 ProDeo 1.7 Pers. 1.71a w32 2476 33 33 308 47% 2501 29% NEW, still running
187 Hamsters 0.7.1 w32 2472 32 32 308 46% 2501 38% NEW, still running
188 Zarkov 6.44 w32 2470 13 13 2588 25% 2673 26% Again
189 Pharaon 3.5.1 w32 2462 33 33 308 44% 2502 29% NEW, still running
190 Gaviota 0.84 w32 2460 34 34 309 44% 2501 25% NEW, still running
191 Philou 3.6 w32 2459 32 33 308 44% 2502 36% NEW, still running
192 Amyan 1.72 w32 2452 33 33 309 43% 2503 33% NEW, still running
193 Ruffian Leiden 2003 w32 2450 33 33 308 43% 2502 32% NEW, still running
194 Arasan 13.2 w32 2448 33 33 308 42% 2503 31% NEW, still running
195 Cheng3 1.05 w32 2434 32 33 309 40% 2503 36% NEW, still running
196 Aristarch 4.50 w32 2430 33 34 309 40% 2503 29% NEW, still running
197 SOS 5.1 for Arena w32 2423 34 34 308 38% 2504 28% NEW, still running
198 Francesca M.A.D 0.19 w32 2408 33 33 308 36% 2504 34% NEW, still running
199 AnMon 5.75 w32 2397 34 34 309 35% 2505 28% NEW, still running
Not to know, 47% ... new record!
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Fritz 13 in detail ...
Fritz 13 results:
Many time loses, not in database ... reason for different number of games so far. Later all participants played the 40 SWCR games.
Have a look here, ELOstat gave 7 ELO points more, clear ... reason is the very high remis quote.
So many draw results, have a look in detail vs. Cyclone and Rybka for two examples. The style Fritz 13 is playing isn't nice. Very long games, tactic games I have to search here. A very boring test ...
Best
Frank
Many time loses, not in database ... reason for different number of games so far. Later all participants played the 40 SWCR games.
Have a look here, ELOstat gave 7 ELO points more, clear ... reason is the very high remis quote.
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50 Fritz 13 w32 : 2819 558 (+224,=261,- 73), 63.5 %
Zappa Mexico II w32 : 15 (+ 8,= 5,- 2), 70.0 %
Glaurung 2.2 JA w32 : 19 (+ 13,= 4,- 2), 78.9 %
Shredder 12 w32 : 17 (+ 9,= 8,- 0), 76.5 %
SmarThink 1.20 w32 : 17 (+ 10,= 7,- 0), 79.4 %
Thinker 5.4d Inert w32 : 15 (+ 5,= 9,- 1), 63.3 %
Cyclone xTreme Wrath w32 : 19 (+ 3,= 14,- 2), 52.6 %
Naum 4.2 w32 : 16 (+ 2,= 9,- 5), 40.6 %
Loop 2007 w32 : 16 (+ 11,= 5,- 0), 84.4 %
Onno 1.2.70 w32 : 16 (+ 10,= 5,- 1), 78.1 %
Jonny 4.00 w32 : 13 (+ 5,= 6,- 2), 61.5 %
Sjeng c't 2010 w32 : 17 (+ 6,= 8,- 3), 58.8 %
Spark 1.0 w32 : 16 (+ 6,= 8,- 2), 62.5 %
Protector 1.4.0 JA w32 : 17 (+ 8,= 8,- 1), 70.6 %
Tornado 4.40 w32 : 16 (+ 13,= 3,- 0), 90.6 %
Spike 1.4 Leiden w32 : 16 (+ 6,= 7,- 3), 59.4 %
Crafty 23.4 JA w32 : 19 (+ 8,= 11,- 0), 71.1 %
Hiarcs 13.2 w32 : 19 (+ 7,= 10,- 2), 63.2 %
ChessTiger 2007 1.0012 w32 : 19 (+ 12,= 7,- 0), 81.6 %
IvanHoe B47cB w32 : 15 (+ 1,= 8,- 6), 33.3 %
Houdini 1.5 w32 : 17 (+ 4,= 7,- 6), 44.1 %
Critter 1.2 w32 : 18 (+ 3,= 8,- 7), 38.9 %
Umko 1.2 w32 : 15 (+ 8,= 5,- 2), 70.0 %
Scorpio 2.7 JA w32 : 17 (+ 11,= 6,- 0), 82.4 %
Rybka 4.1 w32 : 17 (+ 1,= 14,- 2), 47.1 %
BugChess2 1.9 w32 : 20 (+ 15,= 4,- 1), 85.0 %
Stockfish 2.1.1 JA w32 : 17 (+ 3,= 10,- 4), 47.1 %
Fire 2.2 xTreme w32 : 15 (+ 2,= 7,- 6), 36.7 %
Hannibal 1.1 w32 : 19 (+ 8,= 10,- 1), 68.4 %
GullChess 1.2 w32 : 18 (+ 3,= 12,- 3), 50.0 %
Junior 12.5.0.3 w32 : 17 (+ 7,= 8,- 2), 64.7 %
Komodo 3.0 w32 : 16 (+ 2,= 10,- 4), 43.8 %
Toga II 1.4 Beta 5c w32 : 16 (+ 3,= 11,- 2), 53.1 %
Frenzee 3.5.19 w32 : 19 (+ 11,= 7,- 1), 76.3 %
Best
Frank
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: SWCR book, databases and ratings updated ...
Hi there,
SWCR opening book is updated to version 5.11.
SWCR database is updated, now 151.121 games.
SWCR Oldie-Mix database with Shredder GUI comments is updated. Now 30% of 15.120 games played.
SWCR-32, SWCR-64 and SWCR all games rating lists updated too.
More information can be found in my News-Ticker, message 321 and 322.
Have fun with SWCR
Best
Frank
SWCR opening book is updated to version 5.11.
SWCR database is updated, now 151.121 games.
SWCR Oldie-Mix database with Shredder GUI comments is updated. Now 30% of 15.120 games played.
SWCR-32, SWCR-64 and SWCR all games rating lists updated too.
More information can be found in my News-Ticker, message 321 and 322.
Have fun with SWCR
Best
Frank