By Arrière Pensée (Silver) Date 2012-01-08 17:46 Edited 2012-01-08 17:49
Since you decided to broach that here -and I request that the moderator branch this from Vas greeting along with your post.
You want the gist of that rebuttal - here it is
Taken from Watkins rebuttal-
"From a different angle, copying is usually concluded to have occurred by inference [my italic]
from the end result, rather than via direct observation of the physical act of
copying."
The word "inference" as he uses it here denotes in its connotation the idea of a profound "dilemma", the horns of which Lay in Watkins' gathered assertions that he goes on to support, with the same crappy documentation that Dr. Riis debunked in his four part article.
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we request this fool be blood tested to acertain what medication he is on
- By zwegner (***) Date 2012-01-08 19:35
One more question, if you don't mind--only related to Rybka 1.0 beta.
We discussed this a bit privately a while back, and I was never quite satisfied with your response. What is the actual data structure in use for storing the move ordering information? Namely, why do different move generators store their moves/values in different patterns in the same block of memory? I gave my interpretation of it in that email:
struct sort_t {
union {
struct { // normal moves
mv_t moves[256];
int values[256];
};
struct { // bad captures overwrite 2nd half of values
int dummy[384];
mv_t bad_caps[128];
};
struct {
mv_t move;
int value;
} evasions[256];
}
enum MG_TASKS task;
int count;
mv_t trans_move;
int bad_cnt;
};
Rebel wrote:The attitude I notice, VIG because he did not speak, now that he is starting to speak still VIG.
Typical.
Where EXACTLY has he addressed ANYTHING? Other than an "attaboy for Ed, Chris, Soren, Alan, et. al.)
I don't call that "starting to speak." Just address the issue out in the open for once. So far, not happening.
+1
Yes, he spent many words to say nothing. Not certainly the first time. The guy is well known.
Regards
To date:
1. attaboy to ed and friends.
2. rybka 5 on the way.
3. I am not willing to talk about the rybka 1.6.1 stuff (big surprise there).
That is "talking and answering questions?"
I asked a question. Zach asked one. A couple of others have too. He COMPLETELY ignores anything related to the ICGA or Mark Watkins' rebuttal of SR's article on ChessBase. So if you call this "vas speaks" I suppose that TECHNICALLY, that is correct. But no "substance" as of yet. Will continue to watch.
Rebel wrote:The attitude I notice, VIG because he did not speak, now that he is starting to speak still VIG.
Typical.
Where EXACTLY has he addressed ANYTHING? Other than an "attaboy for Ed, Chris, Soren, Alan, et. al.)
I don't call that "starting to speak." Just address the issue out in the open for once. So far, not happening.
+1
Yes, he spent many words to say nothing. Not certainly the first time. The guy is well known.
Regards
To date:
1. attaboy to ed and friends.
2. rybka 5 on the way.
3. I am not willing to talk about the rybka 1.6.1 stuff (big surprise there).
That is "talking and answering questions?"
I asked a question. Zach asked one. A couple of others have too. He COMPLETELY ignores anything related to the ICGA or Mark Watkins' rebuttal of SR's article on ChessBase. So if you call this "vas speaks" I suppose that TECHNICALLY, that is correct. But no "substance" as of yet. Will continue to watch.
I don't know much about the problem Rybka-Fruit-Crafty, but i'm experienced, like many others, about the behaviour of that guy, being (me) a customer of Rybka. I remember the story of Rybka 3 + (plus), the neverending story (never released), the famous ''tbd'' instead of a precise answer, the famous ''it'a plan, not a promise'', and so on. I know, much time before the problem of the code, many people were upset for his behaviour.
I think it's hard to believe in him, all the more if he didn't and doesn't talk, and when (very rarely) he does, he tells nothing but thanking his friends for defending him...
When I read that answer I couldn't help but remember a scene by chief wiggum:
"The Simpsons: Radioactive Man (#7.2)" (1995)
[Cheif Wiggum releases some attack dogs to look for Milhouse]
Kirk Van Houten: Will they just find him... or will they find him and kill him?
Chief Wiggum: They'll find him, and, um... um...
Kirk Van Houten: Um, excuse me, you didn't answer my question. You just trailed off.
Chief Wiggum: Yeah, I did, didn't I?
