FCP: TOP-8 tourney, 40 in 40 in LIVE mode

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Re: FCP: More short comments ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

after some analyzes of games ...

Most tactical problems:
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42

Strongest endgame:
Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42

Most tactical strong moves:
Komodo 4 x64, Houdini 2.0c x64

Most problems in late middlegame:
Rybka 4.1 x64 / Chiron 1.1a x64

Most aggressive / experimental after opening moves:
Stockfish 2.1.1 x64 PHQ

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Re: FCP: More short comments ...

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Amazing lead by Komodo now, where are Larry and Don?

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Re: FCP: After 382 of 450 games, again all the stats ...

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Hi Jouni,

I think both like it to discuss more about blitz results? I don't know.

At the moment are 382 of 450 games in my Replay-Zone.
http://www.amateurschach.de/test-tourne ... est-01.htm

ELOstat 1.1
Have a look on the results, more or less the same as in SWCR but it can be that Rybka Exp. 42 is clearly stronger on longer time controls.

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  1 Houdini 2.0c x64               :  44.0/ 76  57.9   2946   3001   56  55   50.0 %
  2 Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42            :  42.5/ 75  56.7   2945   2992   55  55   52.0 %
  3 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA x64         :  42.0/ 75  56.0   2946   2988   58  57   48.0 %
  4 Komodo 4.0 x64                 :  43.5/ 78  55.8   2946   2986   52  52   55.1 %
  5 Critter 1.4 x64                :  42.0/ 78  53.8   2949   2976   51  51   56.4 %
  6 Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ     :  38.0/ 75  50.7   2949   2954   53  53   56.0 %
  7 RobboLito 0.10 x64             :  37.5/ 77  48.7   2951   2942   50  50   58.4 %
  8 IvanHoe 999946hm x64           :  35.5/ 77  46.1   2955   2927   55  55   50.6 %
  9 Rybka 4.1 x64                  :  33.0/ 75  44.0   2954   2912   47  48   64.0 %
 10 Chiron 1.1a x64                :  24.0/ 78  30.8   2965   2824   49  53   53.8 %

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FCP, 40/40, ponder=on, Q9550   2012

                                1         2         3         4         5         6         7         8         9         0         
1   Houdini 2.0c x64            ********* ½0½½0½½½0 110½1½1½½ ½1½10½1½  01½1½10½  ½01½½10½  0½½1½0½½½ 10½11½½½  ½1½½½1½½1 1½011111   44.0/76
2   Komodo 4.0 x64              ½1½½1½½½1 ********* 0½½11½½½  ½½½11½010 101½1½½½  ½01½0½½½0 1½½1½0½0½ ½½½1½1000 1½½01½½½  1½½½11½½1  43.5/78
3   Rybka 4 x64 Exp. 42         001½0½0½½ 1½½00½½½  ********* ½½1111½½0 ½½½½00½1  ½½½½0½0   ½1½11½0½  ½1½01111½ 11½11½½½  1½½1½½11½  42.5/75
4   Critter 1.4 x64             ½0½01½0½  ½½½00½101 ½½0000½½1 ********* ½½111100½ ½11½11½½  ½1½1½½½1½ ½1½1½1½0½ ½1½0½½½½½ ½½½½½½½1   42.0/78  1569.25
5   Stockfish 2.2.2 JA x64      10½0½01½  010½0½½½  ½½½½11½0  ½½000011½ ********* 1½½½1½1½½ ½½010½0½  111½0½½½  11½½½1½1  ½1½11111½  42.0/75  1518.75
6   Stockfish 2.1.1 JA x64 PHQ  ½10½½01½  ½10½1½½½1 ½½½½1½1   ½00½00½½  0½½½0½0½½ ********* 01½1½0½1  00½½½10½½ ½1½1½1½½  01½1½½1½½  38.0/75
7   RobboLito 0.10 x64          1½½0½1½½½ 0½½0½1½1½ ½0½00½1½  ½0½0½½½0½ ½½101½1½  10½0½1½0  ********* 1½0½0½½0½ ½½½½½½0½  ½½½1½11½1  37.5/77
8   IvanHoe 999946hm x64        01½00½½½  ½½½0½0111 ½0½10000½ ½0½0½0½1½ 000½1½½½  11½½½01½½ 0½1½1½½1½ ********* ½10½0½0½  ½½1½½0½1   35.5/77
9   Rybka 4.1 x64               ½0½½½0½½0 0½½10½½½  00½00½½½  ½0½1½½½½½ 00½½½0½0  ½0½0½0½½  ½½½½½½1½  ½01½1½1½  ********* ½1½½1½½1½  33.0/75
10  Chiron 1.1a x64             0½100000  0½½½00½½0 0½½0½½00½ ½½½½½½½0  ½0½00000½ 10½0½½0½½ ½½½0½00½0 ½½0½½1½0  ½0½½0½½0½ *********  24.0/78
Other stats:
Move average per game = 99 moves


Games : 382 (finished)

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White Wins   :    106 (27.7 %)
Black Wins   :     68 (17.8 %)
Draws        :    208 (54.5 %)
Unfinished   :      0

White Perf.  : 55.0 %
Black Perf.  : 45.0 %

ECO A =     90 Games (23.6 %)
ECO B =    107 Games (28.0 %)
ECO C =     63 Games (16.5 %)
ECO D =     75 Games (19.6 %)
ECO E =     47 Games (12.3 %)
40 in 40 with ponder on Q9550 hardware is simular to CEGT 40 in 120. Also in CEGT with 40 in 120 Rybka 4 is clear stronger. It could be that Rybka 4 is general a lot stronger with slower time controls as Rybka 4.1. Rybka 4.1 is in blitz better. Furthermore, the Rybka Exp. 42 seems to be very very strong (see also SWCR results after so many games my systems played).

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Re: FCP: After 382 of 450 games, again all the stats ...

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But situation changes and now SF 2.2.2 is leading!

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Re: FCP: After 382 of 450 games, again all the stats ...

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Hi Jouni,

that is the situation in computer chess.
Houdini, Stockfish, Komodo, Critter, Rybka with special settings have around the same playing strength.

The question is which one is the strongest for correspondence chess?
Also the same strength?
I think in combination we could used all of this engines for long time analyzes.

Not important, important is more that all this engines find out an own style. To say, SF and Critter are stronger in tactics ... perhaps in fast blitz games. With more times the others find out also a lot.

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Re: FCP: After 382 of 450 games, again all the stats ...

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Exciting, only one game missing..

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Re: FCP: After 382 of 450 games, again all the stats ...

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Hi Jouni,

yes, I have to look now.
Not at home on weekend.

One game missed and perhaps different games I have to replay (lost on times games). I will do it in the next hour.

Please wait a bit for the final result.
Games will be available in my download area later.

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Re: FCP: After 382 of 450 games, again all the stats ...

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Hi Jouni,

three games are to play:

Komodo - Robbolito (missed game, I don't know what is happened, I think crash).

Houdini - Stockfish 2.2.2 (SF lost on time in round 9)

Stockfish PHQ - Rybka 4 Exp. 42 (remis games, but not in my database).

It need a time, I will start this three games now again.

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Re: FCP: After 382 of 450 games, again all the stats ...

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Hi Jouni,

three games are still running now.
447 of 450 games can be found in my Replay Zone. Later in my download area (if you like to have it with Shredder GUI comments).

Thanks for your interest.

Have a nice evening!

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Re: FCP: TOP-8 tourney, 40 in 40 in LIVE mode

Post by Carlos Ylich »

Stockfish 2.2.2 is one of my favorite engines. Congratulations to Team
Stockfisch !!

Critter is also superb. Thanks Richard Vida!