CountryChess 02: France, premier division

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CountryChess 02-13 France premier division,

Listing of Players
 N     Name                    Ratin 
  1    Fruit 2.3.3F            2738  
  2    Bugchess2 V1.9 X64 6Cpu 2722  
  3    Pharaon 3.6 B3 4Cpu     2673  
  4    E.T. Chess 130108       2578  
  5    Cyrano 0.6B17 X64 Ja    2547  
  6    Chess Tiger 2007.1      2541  
  7    Philou 3.71 X64         2508  
  8    Anmon 5.75              2473  
  9    Delphil 2.9G 6Cpu       2400  
 10    Discocheck 3.71 X64     2393  
 11    Dragon 4.6              2380  
 12    Cheese 1.4 X64          2368  

The tournament started yesterday.

[lucasart]

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CountryChess 02-13 France premier division,

Listing of Players
 N     Name                    Ratin 
  1    Fruit 2.3.3F            2738  
  2    Bugchess2 V1.9 X64 6Cpu 2722  
  3    Pharaon 3.6 B3 4Cpu     2673  
  4    E.T. Chess 130108       2578  
  5    Cyrano 0.6B17 X64 Ja    2547  
  6    Chess Tiger 2007.1      2541  
  7    Philou 3.71 X64         2508  
  8    Anmon 5.75              2473  
  9    Delphil 2.9G 6Cpu       2400  
 10    Discocheck 3.71 X64     2393  
 11    Dragon 4.6              2380  
 12    Cheese 1.4 X64          2368  

The tournament started yesterday.

are you sure you used the correct version of DiscoCheck ? This rating seems a lot lower than CCRL and CEGT. I don't think that Dragon and Cheese are anywhere near DC 3.7.1. Or maybe it's just the sample size that was very small ?

[countrychess]

are you sure you used the correct version of DiscoCheck ? This rating seems a lot lower than CCRL and CEGT. I don't think that Dragon and Cheese are anywhere near DC 3.7.1. Or maybe it's just the sample size that was very small ?

Hello Lucas,

Don't worry too much about the eloratings. I run tournaments with a rother long time control (1800+10 incremental). It means that the number of games played by engines here is not as high as in more relevant elorating lists, as those you mentioned.

If you check the CountryChess blog, you'll see that DiscoCheck 3.71 played its first tournament one week ago in the first division of France. The Startrating was 2180, obtained by DoubleCheck 2.31 last year.

After a superb result of 21.5/22, its rating now is 2392. Of course, after playing 22 games in the premier division, the elopoints of DiscoCheck will increase.

BTW: 1.5 points after 3 games: win against Dragon, draw against Chess Tiger and a loss against BugChess.

regards,
Geert

[lucasart]

are you sure you used the correct version of DiscoCheck ? This rating seems a lot lower than CCRL and CEGT. I don't think that Dragon and Cheese are anywhere near DC 3.7.1. Or maybe it's just the sample size that was very small ?

Hello Lucas,

Don't worry too much about the eloratings. I run tournaments with a rother long time control (1800+10 incremental). It means that the number of games played by engines here is not as high as in more relevant elorating lists, as those you mentioned.

If you check the CountryChess blog, you'll see that DiscoCheck 3.71 played its first tournament one week ago in the first division of France. The Startrating was 2180, obtained by DoubleCheck 2.31 last year.

After a superb result of 21.5/22, its rating now is 2392. Of course, after playing 22 games in the premier division, the elopoints of DiscoCheck will increase.

BTW: 1.5 points after 3 games: win against Dragon, draw against Chess Tiger and a loss against BugChess.

regards,
Geert

Ah ok, that makes perfect sense.

Merci

[lucasart]

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CountryChess 02-13 France premier division,

Listing of Players
 N     Name                    Ratin 
  1    Fruit 2.3.3F            2738  
  2    Bugchess2 V1.9 X64 6Cpu 2722  
  3    Pharaon 3.6 B3 4Cpu     2673  
  4    E.T. Chess 130108       2578  
  5    Cyrano 0.6B17 X64 Ja    2547  
  6    Chess Tiger 2007.1      2541  
  7    Philou 3.71 X64         2508  
  8    Anmon 5.75              2473  
  9    Delphil 2.9G 6Cpu       2400  
 10    Discocheck 3.71 X64     2393  
 11    Dragon 4.6              2380  
 12    Cheese 1.4 X64          2368  

The tournament started yesterday.

Actually just one last thing (sorry to be a pain). Fruit 2.3.3 is not a French engine strictly speaking. The last version of Fabien Letouzey is Fruit 05/11/03 (and is probably almost as strong as Fruit 2.3.3). After that version, I think it's mostly Ryan Benitez, although it's possible that Fabien worked with Ryan on it too (i don't know, only they could answer).

[countrychess]

Actually just one last thing (sorry to be a pain). Fruit 2.3.3 is not a French engine strictly speaking. The last version of Fabien Letouzey is Fruit 05/11/03 (and is probably almost as strong as Fruit 2.3.3). After that version, I think it's mostly Ryan Benitez, although it's possible that Fabien worked with Ryan on it too (i don't know, only they could answer).

Hello again,

There are even more examples of engines which are not strictly belonging to one country: e.g. Glass (Austria and Poalnd I think); and Stockfish (I don't believe that the current Stockfish team is completely Norwegian ). I also make use of Jim Ablett's compiles, but would it mean that they are all American engines?

Don't get me wrong; your remark is absolutely justified. Maybe I should consider to replace Fruit 2.33f by version 05-11-03, if I can get it somewhere. But to be honest, I am still hoping for a multicore version of Fruit .

[lucasart]

Actually just one last thing (sorry to be a pain). Fruit 2.3.3 is not a French engine strictly speaking. The last version of Fabien Letouzey is Fruit 05/11/03 (and is probably almost as strong as Fruit 2.3.3). After that version, I think it's mostly Ryan Benitez, although it's possible that Fabien worked with Ryan on it too (i don't know, only they could answer).

Hello again,

There are even more examples of engines which are not strictly belonging to one country: e.g. Glass (Austria and Poalnd I think); and Stockfish (I don't believe that the current Stockfish team is completely Norwegian ). I also make use of Jim Ablett's compiles, but would it mean that they are all American engines?

Don't get me wrong; your remark is absolutely justified. Maybe I should consider to replace Fruit 2.33f by version 05-11-03, if I can get it somewhere. But to be honest, I am still hoping for a multicore version of Fruit .

Fruit 05/11/03 is available here, in binary form for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X
http://www.fruitchess.com/purchase.htm
As for a multi core version of Fruit, I doubt that will ever happen. The problem is that:
- Fruit 2.1 is the last GPL open source version. There are severql forks of thqt projectm the most famous being Toga II (also GPL) which is multicore.
- Fruit 05/11/03 is a lot stronger than Fruit 2.1 already, and source code was given to Ryan Benitez only, so all of it was basically lost to the community. Only if Ryan improves it will we get a closed source impriovement...

What would really make the Fruit project come back to life is if Fabien could release the source code of Fruit 05/11/03 licensed under the GPL to avoid the possibility that anyone could close the source code and kill the project's evolution in this way. But from what I understand Fabien has retired from chess programming long ago, and is probably not going to ever read this

If you can read this Fabien: we miss you !!!

[countrychess]

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CountryChess 02-13 France
Halle, 2012.09.25 - 2012.09.30
                              Score     B F D C P D C C E D D A
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 1: BugChess2 v1.9_x64      10.0 / 11   X = 1 1 1 1 1 1 = 1 1 1
 2: Fruit 2.3.3f Test Beta   9.5 / 11   = X = 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 = 1
 3: DiscoCheck 3.7.1         7.0 / 11   0 = X = 1 = 1 = = 1 1 =
 4: Chess Tiger 2007.1       6.5 / 11   0 0 = X 0 1 1 = 1 1 = 1
 5: Philou 3.7.1 64 bits     5.5 / 11   0 0 0 1 X 0 = 1 1 = = 1
 6: Deep Pharaon 3.6 Beta3   5.0 / 11   0 0 = 0 1 X 0 1 1 = 1 0
 7: Cyrano 0.6b17 JA         5.0 / 11   0 0 0 0 = 1 X = = = 1 1
 8: Cheese 1.4 64 bits       4.5 / 11   0 0 = = 0 0 = X 1 = = 1
 9: E.T. Chess 130108        4.0 / 11   = 0 = 0 0 0 = 0 X = 1 1
10: Delphil 2.9g             3.5 / 11   0 0 0 0 = = = = = X 0 1
11: Dragon 4.6               3.0 / 11   0 = 0 = = 0 0 = 0 1 X 0
12: AnMon 5.75               2.5 / 11   0 0 = 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 X
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66 games: +26 =21 -19 

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CountryChess 02-13 France
Halle, 2012.09.25 - 2012.10.04
                              Score       SB   Bu Fr Di Ph Cy De De Ch E. Ch Dr An
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 1: BugChess2 v1.9_x64      18.5 / 22  179.50  XX =0 11 1= 11 11 11 11 =0 11 11 11
 2: Fruit 2.3.3f Test Beta  18.0 / 22  185.00  =1 XX =1 1= 1= 1= 11 11 1= 11 =1 1=
 3: DiscoCheck 3.7.1        13.5 / 22  127.00  00 =0 XX 1= 1= 10 =1 =1 =1 =1 11 ==
 4: Philou 3.7.1 64 bits    12.5 / 22  115.75  0= 0= 0= XX == == 0= 11 10 11 =1 11
 5: Cyrano 0.6b17 JA        11.0 / 22   98.50  00 0= 0= == XX == 1= 0= =1 =0 11 11
 6: Delphil 2.9g            10.0 / 22   96.25  00 0= 01 == == XX =0 01 == =1 01 1=
 7: Deep Pharaon 3.6 Beta3  10.0 / 22   90.75  00 00 =0 1= 0= =1 XX 00 11 1= 1= 01
 8: Chess Tiger 2007.1      10.0 / 22   89.25  00 00 =0 00 1= 10 11 XX 1= == == 1=
 9: E.T. Chess 130108        9.5 / 22  101.00  =1 0= =0 01 =0 == 00 0= XX 01 10 11
10: Cheese 1.4 64 bits       8.0 / 22   69.25  00 00 =0 00 =1 =0 0= == 10 XX == 11
11: Dragon 4.6               5.5 / 22   57.75  00 =0 00 =0 00 10 0= == 01 == XX 00
12: AnMon 5.75               5.5 / 22   53.50  00 0= == 00 00 0= 10 0= 00 00 11 XX
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132 games: +51 =45 -36

BugChess is champion of France!
Anmon and Dragon demote to the first division.

Joyous entry of DiscoCheck into the French premier division! And nice progress for delphil with its 6th place (10/22), after 2 consecutive 9th places in CC00 and CC01 with 7.5/22.
Deep Pharaon 3.6 b3 seems to play weaker than dP 3.5.1, so I'll probably switch back to the official released version.
And what about Chess Tiger??? Maybe I have wrong settings in the inifile, so if there's someone with a good ct.ini configuration ... please let me know.

[Vinvin]

Hello Geert, please look at this post : http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=