I just checked Hiarcs 14 on the main line of the Marshall after 14...Qh3, but it shows +.21 after 24 plies, which is about the same as Komodo. I would like to see a top program evaluate this position closer to zero, but this doesn't appear to be the case here. What position do you show a plus score for Black in with Hiarcs?Alibaba wrote:Hi Larry,
it might be better to wait until end of the tour to examine the back-white score. At the moment black has 2 more wins.....
by the way, it might be interesting that Junior and Hiarcs evals this position nearly equal, and the main line better for black so they try to avoid playing the main line, but with no good results for white....
Regards
Andi
TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
Hi Larry,
i had another position in mind when i talked about Hiarcs would evaluate the position nearly equal....the position after the 8. move of black (d5)
i wanted to know how the engines evaluate the "main line" 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 and so on....
and Hiarcs and Junior evaluate close to 0.00....so junior sometimes try to avoid the line and plays other 10. moves for white....
by the way half of the tour is over and i started the 2. part of the tour with the 8. round....
At the moment the Game Stockfish 2.2.2 vs Critter 1.6a is running with live broadcast on Playchess.....
here is the latest board position:
[d]r2q2k1/1bp2ppp/p4b2/3P4/1pP5/1B2Q3/PP1N1PPP/2R3K1 b - - 0 19
enjoy the game....
Regards
Andi
i had another position in mind when i talked about Hiarcs would evaluate the position nearly equal....the position after the 8. move of black (d5)
i wanted to know how the engines evaluate the "main line" 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Nxe5 Nxe5 11. Rxe5 and so on....
and Hiarcs and Junior evaluate close to 0.00....so junior sometimes try to avoid the line and plays other 10. moves for white....
by the way half of the tour is over and i started the 2. part of the tour with the 8. round....
At the moment the Game Stockfish 2.2.2 vs Critter 1.6a is running with live broadcast on Playchess.....
here is the latest board position:
[d]r2q2k1/1bp2ppp/p4b2/3P4/1pP5/1B2Q3/PP1N1PPP/2R3K1 b - - 0 19
enjoy the game....
Regards
Andi
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Hi,
Results of round 8:
Stockfish 2.2.2 vs Critter 1.6a : draw
Houdini 1.5a vs Deep Hiarcs 14 : draw
at the moment Deep Rybka 4 vs Deep Junior 13 is running with live broacast on Playchess.....
Interesting evals of the starting position:
Rybka 0.20/21
Junior 0.00/22 !!!
Enjoy the game!
Regards
Andi
Results of round 8:
Stockfish 2.2.2 vs Critter 1.6a : draw
Houdini 1.5a vs Deep Hiarcs 14 : draw
at the moment Deep Rybka 4 vs Deep Junior 13 is running with live broacast on Playchess.....
Interesting evals of the starting position:
Rybka 0.20/21
Junior 0.00/22 !!!
Enjoy the game!
Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
Hi,
here the table after 8 rounds....
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** 1 1½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 5.0/8 20.50
2 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ** ½ ½ 1 1½ ½ 1 5.0/8 17.75
3 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0½ ½ ** ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 4.5/8 17.00
4 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ ½ ** ½½ ½ ½ 1 4.5/8 17.00
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½ 0 ½ ½½ ** ½ ½ ½ 3.5/8 14.00
6 Deep Fritz 13 ½ 0½ 0 ½ ½ ** 1 ½ 3.5/8 13.50
7 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ** ½½ 3.0/8 12.00
8 Deep Junior 13.3 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½½ ** 3.0/8 11.25
Regards
Andi
here the table after 8 rounds....
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** 1 1½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 5.0/8 20.50
2 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ** ½ ½ 1 1½ ½ 1 5.0/8 17.75
3 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0½ ½ ** ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 4.5/8 17.00
4 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ ½ ** ½½ ½ ½ 1 4.5/8 17.00
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½ 0 ½ ½½ ** ½ ½ ½ 3.5/8 14.00
6 Deep Fritz 13 ½ 0½ 0 ½ ½ ** 1 ½ 3.5/8 13.50
7 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ** ½½ 3.0/8 12.00
8 Deep Junior 13.3 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½½ ** 3.0/8 11.25
Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
Hi,
here the new table after 9 rounds:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Komodo 5 64-bit ** 0 ½ ½1 1 1½ 1 ½ 6.0/9
2 Houdini 1.5a x64 1 ** ½ 1½ ½ ½ ½½ ½ 5.5/9 24.50
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ ** ½ ½½ ½1 1 ½ 5.5/9 22.75
4 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC ½0 0½ ½ ** ½ 1 ½ 1 4.5/9 19.00
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 0 ½ ½½ ½ ** ½ ½ ½1 4.5/9 18.50
6 Deep Fritz 13 0½ ½ ½0 0 ½ ** ½ 1 3.5/9 15.50
7 Deep Junior 13.3 0 ½½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ** ½½ 3.5/9 14.75
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½0 0 ½½ ** 3.0/9
Regards
Andi
here the new table after 9 rounds:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Komodo 5 64-bit ** 0 ½ ½1 1 1½ 1 ½ 6.0/9
2 Houdini 1.5a x64 1 ** ½ 1½ ½ ½ ½½ ½ 5.5/9 24.50
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ ** ½ ½½ ½1 1 ½ 5.5/9 22.75
4 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC ½0 0½ ½ ** ½ 1 ½ 1 4.5/9 19.00
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 0 ½ ½½ ½ ** ½ ½ ½1 4.5/9 18.50
6 Deep Fritz 13 0½ ½ ½0 0 ½ ** ½ 1 3.5/9 15.50
7 Deep Junior 13.3 0 ½½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ** ½½ 3.5/9 14.75
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½0 0 ½½ ** 3.0/9
Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
Hi,
here the new table after 10 rounds:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** ½ 1 1½ ½ ½½ ½ ½1 6.5/10
2 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ** ½ ½½ ½½ 1 ½1 ½ 6.0/10 28.25
3 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ½ ** ½1 1 10 1½ ½ 6.0/10 27.50
4 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0½ ½½ ½0 ** ½ ½ 1 1 5.0/10 24.00
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½ ½½ 0 ½ ** ½ ½½ ½1 5.0/10 22.50
6 Deep Junior 13.3 ½½ 0 01 ½ ½ ** ½ ½½ 4.5/10
7 Deep Fritz 13 ½ ½0 0½ 0 ½½ ½ ** 1 4.0/10
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½0 ½ ½ 0 ½0 ½½ 0 ** 3.0/10
Regards
Andi
here the new table after 10 rounds:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** ½ 1 1½ ½ ½½ ½ ½1 6.5/10
2 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ** ½ ½½ ½½ 1 ½1 ½ 6.0/10 28.25
3 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ½ ** ½1 1 10 1½ ½ 6.0/10 27.50
4 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0½ ½½ ½0 ** ½ ½ 1 1 5.0/10 24.00
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½ ½½ 0 ½ ** ½ ½½ ½1 5.0/10 22.50
6 Deep Junior 13.3 ½½ 0 01 ½ ½ ** ½ ½½ 4.5/10
7 Deep Fritz 13 ½ ½0 0½ 0 ½½ ½ ** 1 4.0/10
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½0 ½ ½ 0 ½0 ½½ 0 ** 3.0/10
Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
Do the other engines play with 1 Core when playing against Komodo or not ?Alibaba wrote:Hi,
i started a new tournament called "The Beasts of Chess 5" TBOC 5, all Engines play with 1 core if single like komodo or with 2 Cores if MP Engines. Time control is 40m in 180min followed by 40z in 120min followed by 5min+30s for the rest.
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And could you please upload or give a link to the games
Thx for playing !
kind regards Bram
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
Hi,
as i said before Komodo is playing with 1 core other MP engines with 2 Cores.....
here is the new table after 11 rounds:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** 1 ½ ½½ 1½ ½½ ½ ½1 7.0/11
2 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ** ½ 10 ½1 1 1½ ½½ 6.5/11
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ ** 10 ½½ ½½ ½1 ½ 6.0/11
4 Deep Junior 13.3 ½½ 01 01 ** ½ ½ ½ ½½ 5.5/11 30.75
5 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0½ ½0 ½½ ½ ** ½ 1½ 1 5.5/11 28.50
6 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½½ 0 ½½ ½ ½ ** ½½ ½1 5.5/11 28.25
7 Deep Fritz 13 ½ 0½ ½0 ½ 0½ ½½ ** 1 4.5/11
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½0 ½½ ½ ½½ 0 ½0 0 ** 3.5/11
Regards
Andi
as i said before Komodo is playing with 1 core other MP engines with 2 Cores.....
here is the new table after 11 rounds:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Houdini 1.5a x64 ** 1 ½ ½½ 1½ ½½ ½ ½1 7.0/11
2 Komodo 5 64-bit 0 ** ½ 10 ½1 1 1½ ½½ 6.5/11
3 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ ** 10 ½½ ½½ ½1 ½ 6.0/11
4 Deep Junior 13.3 ½½ 01 01 ** ½ ½ ½ ½½ 5.5/11 30.75
5 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC 0½ ½0 ½½ ½ ** ½ 1½ 1 5.5/11 28.50
6 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 ½½ 0 ½½ ½ ½ ** ½½ ½1 5.5/11 28.25
7 Deep Fritz 13 ½ 0½ ½0 ½ 0½ ½½ ** 1 4.5/11
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½0 ½½ ½ ½½ 0 ½0 0 ** 3.5/11
Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
Hi,
here is the new table after 12 rounds:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Komodo 5 64-bit ** 01 10 ½ ½1 1 1½ ½½ 7.5/12
2 Houdini 1.5a x64 10 ** ½½ ½ 1½ ½½ ½ ½1 7.0/12
3 Deep Junior 13.3 01 ½½ ** 01 ½ ½ ½1 ½½ 6.5/12 37.75
4 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ 10 ** ½½ ½½ ½1 ½½ 6.5/12 36.50
5 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC ½0 0½ ½ ½½ ** ½½ 1½ 1 6.0/12 33.75
6 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 0 ½½ ½ ½½ ½½ ** ½½ ½1 6.0/12 33.25
7 Deep Fritz 13 0½ ½ ½0 ½0 0½ ½½ ** 1 4.5/12
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½½ ½0 ½½ ½½ 0 ½0 0 ** 4.0/12
Junior won again, and komodo as the only 1 core engine is on top again!
very cool!
Regards
Andi
here is the new table after 12 rounds:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Komodo 5 64-bit ** 01 10 ½ ½1 1 1½ ½½ 7.5/12
2 Houdini 1.5a x64 10 ** ½½ ½ 1½ ½½ ½ ½1 7.0/12
3 Deep Junior 13.3 01 ½½ ** 01 ½ ½ ½1 ½½ 6.5/12 37.75
4 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½ 10 ** ½½ ½½ ½1 ½½ 6.5/12 36.50
5 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC ½0 0½ ½ ½½ ** ½½ 1½ 1 6.0/12 33.75
6 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 0 ½½ ½ ½½ ½½ ** ½½ ½1 6.0/12 33.25
7 Deep Fritz 13 0½ ½ ½0 ½0 0½ ½½ ** 1 4.5/12
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½½ ½0 ½½ ½½ 0 ½0 0 ** 4.0/12
Junior won again, and komodo as the only 1 core engine is on top again!
very cool!
Regards
Andi
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Re: TBOC 5 : very long time cont tour with new komodo hiarcs
Hi,
after 13. rounds here is the new table:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Komodo 5 64-bit ** 01 10 ½ 1½ ½1 1½ ½½ 8.0/13
2 Houdini 1.5a x64 10 ** ½½ ½½ ½½ 1½ ½ ½1 7.5/13 47.25
3 Deep Junior 13.3 01 ½½ ** 01 ½ ½1 ½1 ½½ 7.5/13 46.75
4 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½½ 10 ** ½½ ½½ ½1 ½½ 7.0/13
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 0½ ½½ ½ ½½ ** ½½ ½½ ½1 6.5/13
6 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC ½0 0½ ½0 ½½ ½½ ** 1½ 1 6.0/13
7 Deep Fritz 13 0½ ½ ½0 ½0 ½½ 0½ ** 1½ 5.0/13
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½½ ½0 ½½ ½½ ½0 0 0½ ** 4.5/13
Regards
Andi
after 13. rounds here is the new table:
TBOC_5 2012
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Komodo 5 64-bit ** 01 10 ½ 1½ ½1 1½ ½½ 8.0/13
2 Houdini 1.5a x64 10 ** ½½ ½½ ½½ 1½ ½ ½1 7.5/13 47.25
3 Deep Junior 13.3 01 ½½ ** 01 ½ ½1 ½1 ½½ 7.5/13 46.75
4 Critter 1.6a 64-bit ½ ½½ 10 ** ½½ ½½ ½1 ½½ 7.0/13
5 Stockfish 2.2.2 JA SSE42 0½ ½½ ½ ½½ ** ½½ ½½ ½1 6.5/13
6 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC ½0 0½ ½0 ½½ ½½ ** 1½ 1 6.0/13
7 Deep Fritz 13 0½ ½ ½0 ½0 ½½ 0½ ** 1½ 5.0/13
8 Deep Rybka 4 x64 ½½ ½0 ½½ ½½ ½0 0 0½ ** 4.5/13
Regards
Andi