FREEWARE Update: Group 1- Rounds 1 thru 4!

geots · Post by **geots** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:33 am

As I mentioned earlier, with only 12 entrants- and it being Group 1, this RR will be a 4-cycle instead of 2. The 4 beginning rounds tell me absolutely nothing about nothing. I suppose a semi-surprise is the way Sting has started and is tied for 1st. Long way to go, however.

XPS 8500 Intel i5-4 True Cores
Fritz 11 gui/Fritz 13 gui
1CPU/64-bit where available
128MB hash
Bases=NONE
Ponder_Learning=OFF
Perfect 2012b.ctg w/12-move limit
40/19 Repeating (Benched to adapt to 40/40)
RR with 4 cycles

Group 1
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Round 1
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Critter 1.6a 64-bit v Sting SF 2 64bit (draw)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v Gull II beta2 x64 (draw)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (1-0)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (0-1)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (draw)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (0-1)

Round 2
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Sting SF 2 64bit v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (1-0)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (draw)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (0-1)
Gull II beta2 x64 v Strelka 5.5 x64 (0-1)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (draw)

Round 3
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Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v Sting SF 2 64bit (0-1)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (draw)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v Gull II beta2 x64 (draw)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (draw)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (draw)

Round 4
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Sting SF 2 64bit v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (draw)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (1-0)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (draw)
Gull II beta2 x64 v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (1-0)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v Strelka 5.5 x64 (draw)

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Standings after Round 4
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1.Sting SF 2 64bit            3.0
2.BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42    3.0
3.Strelka 5.5 x64             3.0
4.Critter 1.6a 64-bit         2.5
5.Bouquet 1.6 pop64           2.0
6.RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2  2.0
7.Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64    1.5
8.DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64      1.5
9.Gull II beta2 x64           1.5
10.Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64    1.5
11.Ivanhoe 46h x64            1.5
12.IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2    1.0

And to all a good night-

george

geots · Post by **geots** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:52 pm

A lot of changes- which was to be expected. Interesting that the only engine in this RR to EVER beat Strelka in a head-up match has moved into first place.
To the games:

XPS 8500 Intel i5-4 True Cores
Fritz 11 gui/Fritz 13 gui
1CPU/64-bit where available
128MB hash
Bases=NONE
Ponder_Learning=OFF
Perfect 2012b.ctg w/12-move limit
40/19 Repeating (Benched to adapt to 40/40)
RR with 4 cycles

Group 1
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Round 5
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Strelka 5.5 x64 v Sting SF 2 64bit (draw)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (draw)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (0-1)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v Gull II beta2 x64 (draw)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (1-0)

Round 6
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Sting SF 2 64bit v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (draw)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (draw)
Gull II beta2 x64 v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (1-0)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (1-0)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (0-1)

Round 7
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Ivanhoe 46h x64 v Sting SF 2 64bit (1-0)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v Strelka 5.5 x64 (draw)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (1-0)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v Gull II beta2 x64 (draw)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (draw)

Round 8
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Sting SF 2 64bit v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Gull II beta2 x64 v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (draw)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (draw)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (1-0)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (1-0)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)

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Standings after Round 8
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1.Critter 1.6a 64-bit         5.5
2.Strelka 5.5 x64             5.0
3.Ivanhoe 46h x64             4.5
4.Bouquet 1.6 pop64           4.5
5.Sting SF 2 64bit            4.5
6.BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42    4.5
7.Gull II beta2 x64           4.0
8.RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2  3.5
9.Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64    3.5
10.DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64     3.0
11.IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2    3.0
12.Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64    2.5

Until then-

george

geots · Post by **geots** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:01 pm

I am considering posting a FEN of the position of each game after every few moves. Of course I would have to always reply to the prior FEN to keep them together and in order.

george

geots · Post by **geots** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:15 am

Shouldn't be more than a few hours, and the next update will be posted.

george

geots · Post by **geots** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:43 am

Lot of position changing- looks as if BlackMamba and Stockfish made the biggest upward moves. Still a long way to go. One note- Round 12 could have just been skipped for all the good it did any of the engines- except possibly in a theoretical tie-breaker, for one who wanted to really get technical.

One last thing- statistics is not my forte. But when Strelka or Critter beats any of these other engines in a 50-game match- let's say in Ws & Ls 16-6, that means 28 games were drawn. Which would seem to tell me that if either played that same engine 4 times in this RR, in theory the odds would say 3 of the 4 should be drawn games. Wouldn't surprise me if what I just stated made no sense at all- and even if it does, I have no idea what it proves or why I even brought it up. (Of course, there is another variable which has not been mentioned.)

XPS 8500 Intel i5-4 True Cores
Fritz 11 gui/Fritz 13 gui
1CPU/64-bit where available
128MB hash
Bases=NONE
Ponder_Learning=OFF
Perfect 2012b.ctg w/12-move limit
40/19 Repeating (Benched to adapt to 40/40)
RR with 4 cycles

Group 1
----------

Round 9
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RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v Sting SF 2 64bit (1-0)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (0-1)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v Strelka 5.5 x64 (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (0-1)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (draw)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v Gull II beta2 x64 (1-0)

Round 10
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Sting SF 2 64bit v Gull II beta2 x64 (1-0)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (1-0)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (draw)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (draw)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (1-0)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (0-1)

Round 11
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DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v Sting SF 2 64bit (draw)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (draw)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v Strelka 5.5 x64 (1-0)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (0-1)
Gull II beta2 x64 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (1-0)

Round 12
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Sting SF 2 64bit v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (draw)
Gull II beta2 x64 v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (draw)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v Strelka 5.5 x64 (draw)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (draw)

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Standings after Round 12
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1.Critter 1.6a 64-bit         7.5
2.Ivanhoe 46h x64             7.5
3.BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42    7.0
4.Sting SF 2 64bit            6.5
5.Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64    6.5
6.Strelka 5.5 x64             6.5
7.Bouquet 1.6 pop64           6.0
8.Gull II beta2 x64           5.5
9.RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2  5.5
10.DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64     5.0
11.IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2    4.5
12.Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64    4.0

Until tomorrow, unless I decide to thread each position after 3 or 4 moves. (As of yet- Chessbase and ESPN have not gotten in touch with me.)

george

geots · Post by **geots** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:59 am

And again, more movement. Hang around for it.

george

geots · Post by **geots** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:33 pm

Tight fit at the top, tho Bouquet needs to pick up his game a bit. Based on the vast tiebreaker difference, Critter and Ivanhoe 46h are due to get many more games ag. engines near the bottom- whereas Bouquet will be facing at the same time more engines near the top. (Maybe only a theoretical difference- based on your POV.)

However your definition of "freeware" is likely different from mine. For example, Strelka contends that he will move up at least one notch. And if he can somehow get Critter down to at least 3rd, he says you can go ahead and etch "1CPU 64-bit World Champion" on HIS trophy. Cocky little devil.

XPS 8500 Intel i5-4 True Cores
Fritz 11 gui/Fritz 13 gui
1CPU/64-bit where available
128MB hash
Bases=NONE
Ponder_Learning=OFF
Perfect 2012b.ctg w/12-move limit
40/19 Repeating (Benched to adapt to 40/40)
RR with 4 cycles

Group 1
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Round 13
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Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v Sting SF 2 64bit (1-0)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (0-1)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (1-0)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v Gull II beta2 x64 (draw)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (1-0)

Round 14
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Sting SF 2 64bit v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (draw)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v Strelka 5.5 x64 (draw)
Gull II beta2 x64 v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (draw)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (1-0)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (1-0)

Round 15
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Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v Sting SF 2 64bit (1-0)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (draw)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v Gull II beta2 x64 (1-0)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (draw)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (1-0)

Round 16
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Sting SF 2 64bit v Strelka 5.5 x64 (0-1)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (draw)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (1-0)
Gull II beta2 x64 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (draw)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (1-0)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (draw)

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Standings after Round 16
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1.Critter 1.6a 64-bit         9.5
2.Ivanhoe 46h x64             9.5
3.Strelka 5.5 x64             9.5
4.Bouquet 1.6 pop64           9.5
5.BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42    9.0
6.Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64    8.5
7.RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2  8.0
8.Gull II beta2 x64           7.0
9.Sting SF 2 64bit            7.0
10.IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2    7.0
11.DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64     6.0
12.Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64    5.5

Until next time-

george

geots · Post by **geots** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:26 am

In an hour or so- give or take a few minutes either way. And we have a new leader!

gts

geots · Post by **geots** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:24 pm

A new leader, just barely- and if the math is correct we will pass the halfway mark after the next update. So there is still quite a way to go yet. However, a 50 game match between any 2 of these engines will have a draw rate above 50%- almost always. Point being any engine that needs to play catch-up will have to do it with wins- draws now won't get him there. At any rate:

XPS 8500 Intel i5-4 True Cores
Fritz 11 gui/Fritz 13 gui
1CPU/64-bit where available
128MB hash
Bases=NONE
Ponder_Learning=OFF
Perfect 2012b.ctg w/12-move limit
40/19 Repeating (Benched to adapt to 40/40)
RR with 4 cycles

Group 1
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Round 17
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BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v Sting SF 2 64bit (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (0-1)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v Gull II beta2 x64 (draw)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (draw)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (0-1)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v Strelka 5.5 x64 (draw)

Round 18
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Sting SF 2 64-bit v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (draw)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (0-1)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (1-0)
Gull II beta2 x64 v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (0-1)
IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (draw)

Round 19
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IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 v Sting SF 2 64bit (1-0)
BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 v Gull II beta2 x64 (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 pop64 v Critter 1.6a 64-bit (1-0)
Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 v Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 (draw)
DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 v Strelka 5.5 x64 (draw)
RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 v Ivanhoe 46h x64 (draw)

Round 20
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Sting SF 2 64bit v RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2 (draw)
Ivanhoe 46h x64 v DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64 (1-0)
Strelka 5.5 x64 v Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64 (draw)
Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64 v Bouquet 1.6 pop64 (0-1)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit v BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42 (1-0)
Gull II beta2 x64 v IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2 (1-0)

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Standings after Round 20
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1.Bouquet 1.6 pop64          12.5
2.Critter 1.6a 64-bit        12.0
3.Ivanhoe 46h x64            12.0
4.Strelka 5.5 x64            11.5
5.BlackMamba 1.0 x64 SSE42   10.5
6.Stockfish 2.3.1 pcnt x64   10.0
7.RobboLito 0.21Q x64 SSE4.2  9.5
8.IvanHoe 50kQ x64 SSE4.2     9.5
9.Gull II beta2 x64           9.0
10.Sting SF 2 64bit           8.5
11.DeepSaros 3.2 pcnt x64     8.0
12.Fire 2.2b xTreme GH x64    7.0

And- until then,

george

geots · Post by **geots** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:36 am

And another bit of a flip-flop at the top.

gts

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