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Super Swiss 8CPU

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SUPER SWISS 8CPU

Intel Xeon X5430x2 Octal
ChessGUI
2048mb hash where possible
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
ChessOK2013-1.cgb book
40 moves in 29 minutes repeating
All engines 64-bit where available
All engines using 8 cores
9 Round Swiss


Participants

Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
Stockfish 130413 64-bit 8CPU
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU (private)
Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
Robbolito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU
DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU
Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU (private)
Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit 8CPU
Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU
Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
Hiarcs 14 8CPU
Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Junior 13.3 con15 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU
Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU
MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
Jonny 4.00 8CPU
Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU
Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU
EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU
Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU
RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU
Arminius 2013-03-07 64-bit 8CPU (private)
Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU
Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU
Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU
Bagatur 1.3a 64-bit 8CPU
FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU
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I'll post results, standings and links to the pgns in this thread after each round.

If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you'll be able to watch the games live move by move and chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.
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Re: Super Swiss 8CPU

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Please Graham, include some top engines with 4 CPUs to get some compairison points ...
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Re: Super Swiss 8CPU

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Vinvin wrote:Please Graham, include some top engines with 4 CPUs to get some compairison points ...
Maybe another time.
Some of my 8 core and 4 core tournaments have included 1 core engines if that helps?
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Round 1 Pairings

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Round 1 Pairings

Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU v Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU v Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU
EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU
RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU v RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8CPU v Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CPU
Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU v Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU v Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU
Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU v Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Bagatur 1.3a 64-bit 8CPU
FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU v BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
Jonny 4.00 8CPU v Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU
Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU v Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU v Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU
IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU v Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit 8CPU
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU v Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU
Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU v Hiarcs 14 8CPU
Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU v Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU
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Round 1 Results and Standings

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Round 1

Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU v Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU v Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU v RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8C v Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CP (1-0)
Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU v Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU v Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU v Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU v BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Jonny 4.00 8CPU v Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU v Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU v Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU v Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit (draw)
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU v Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Komodo 5 64-bit (0-1)
Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU v Hiarcs 14 8CPU (draw)
Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU v Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)


Standings after Round 1

1.0 - Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Komodo 5 64-bit
1.0 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8C
1.0 - Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit
0.5 - Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Hiarcs 14 8CPU
0.5 - Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU
0.0 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Jonny 4.00 8CPU
0.0 - MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CP
0.0 - Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU


Round 1 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=29197
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Round 2 Pairings

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Round 2 Pairings

Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8CPU
Komodo 5 64-bit Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU
Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU
Hiarcs 14 8CPU IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU
Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU
Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU
Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit 8CPU Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU
Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU
Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU
Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CPU Jonny 4.00 8CPU
Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU
Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU


If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you'll be able to watch the games live move by move and chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Round 2 Results and Standings

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Round 2

Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU v Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU v Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU v Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8C (draw)
Komodo 5 64-bit v Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU v Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU v Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU v DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Hiarcs 14 8CPU v IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU v Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU (1-0)
Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit v Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU v RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU v EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU v MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CP v Jonny 4.00 8CPU (1-0)
Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU v Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU v FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU v Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)


Standings after Round 2

2.0 - Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Hiarcs 14 8CPU
1.5 - Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8C
1.5 - Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Komodo 5 64-bit
1.0 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit
1.0 - Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CP
0.5 - IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU
0.5 - Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU
0.0 - Jonny 4.00 8CPU
0.0 - Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU


PGN for Round 2 - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=29204
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Round 3 Pairings

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Round 3 Pairings

Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU v Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU v Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU
Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Hiarcs 14 8CPU
Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8CPU v Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU v RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU v BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU v Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU v Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit 8CPU v Komodo 5 64-bit
Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU v Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU
DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU v Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU
IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU v Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CPU
MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU v Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU
Jonny 4.00 8CPU v Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU
Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU v Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU
FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU v EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU


If you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you'll be able to watch the games live move by move and chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://home.pacific.net.au/~tommyinoz/client.zip
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16083

There is also a live broadcast in Playchess.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Round 3 Results and Standings

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Round 3

Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU v Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU v Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU v Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Hiarcs 14 8CPU (0-1)
Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8C v Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU v RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU v BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU v Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU v Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU v Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU v Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit v Komodo 5 64-bit (1-0)
Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU v Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU v Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU v Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CP (1-0)
MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU v Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU v Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU (draw)
Jonny 4.00 8CPU v Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU (1-0)
Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU v Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)
FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU v EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU (0-1)


Standings after Round 3

2.5 - Houdini 3 Tactical 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Critter 1.6a 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Bouquet 1.6 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Equinox 1.90 64-bit 8CPU
2.5 - Hiarcs 14 8CPU
2.5 - Deep Shredder 12 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Stockfish 140413 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Rybka 4.1 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Sting SF 2 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - DeepSaros 3.3b 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Firenzina 2.2.2 xTreme 64-bit
2.0 - Naum 4.2 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Protector 1.5.0 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Hannibal 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Deep Junior 13.3 c15 64-bit 8C
2.0 - Zappa Mexico II 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - Crafty 23.5 64-bit 8CPU
2.0 - BugChess2 1.9 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Vitruvius 1.19g 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - IvanHoe 46ei 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Onno 1.2.70 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - Spark 1.0 64-bit 8CPU
1.5 - RedQueen 1.1.3 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - RobboLito 0.21Q 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Komodo 5 64-bit
1.0 - Gull R375 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Chiron 1.5 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Deep Sjeng WC2008 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Tornado 4.88 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Gaviota 0.86 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Jonny 4.00 8CPU
1.0 - EXchess 7.03b 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Hamsters 0.7.1 8CPU
1.0 - Octochess r4984 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Arasan 15.3 64-bit 8CPU
1.0 - Arminius 2013-03-17 64-bit 8CP
0.5 - MinkoChess 1.3 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Alfil 13.1 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - Nebula 2.0 64-bit 8CPU
0.0 - FireFly 2.6.0 64-bit 8CPU


Round 3 PGN - http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=29212
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