Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Paul Bedrey wrote:Thanks Jose. I missed that. I've downloaded it and went back to Arena 2.01 too.
So far it looks like 2.01 is correctly sharing hash for the. tournament.
Hi Paul.
I have found Arena 2.01 is the best all around GUI for running tournaments.

Best,
Gerold.
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Thanks, Gerold. I'm used to Arena but I'll certainly give ChessGui a shot too. I'm still in the dark as to how to set up command line parameters for individual engines though. I was used to just changing the engine parameters and using shared hash.
I really suspect that Arena 3 was also going back to the engines original parameters.
I am testing the coward setting for Stockfish 4 and my results indicate no difference between it and the original settings in automatic tournament play however testing using hand play on two separate machines definitely shows a difference (52% vs 42%). I'm using starting pgn and running games manually, sequentially, and repeating sides. My impression is that many Stockfish loses are now turned into draws.
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Matthias,
do you know if your GUI works well on ubuntu and wine? I tried it some years ago and it was kind of functional, but many of the features were not smooth and the appearance of the windows and tabs etc was very distorted and ugly. If things have changed I would be happy to give it another try.
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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chessico wrote:Matthias,
do you know if your GUI works well on ubuntu and wine? I tried it some years ago and it was kind of functional, but many of the features were not smooth and the appearance of the windows and tabs etc was very distorted and ugly. If things have changed I would be happy to give it another try.
Hi Albert,

I have no idea whether ChessGUI now runs fine under Wine.
I have never really used Linux.

Matthias.
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Volker Annuss
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Matthias Gemuh wrote:I am waiting for people to discover true bugs (other than the ones mentioned on ChessGUI website).
Matthias.
GhessGUI's graphics section that is showing thinking time and scores is broken in ChessGUI 0.245c.


Normally you cannot change the ChessGUI window size, but

- When you change the screen resolution in Windows, to a low resolution and back to normal again, ChessGUI uses the full screen size.

- When a game (not chess, but something using full screen) changes the screen resolution and the game is over, the ChessGUI window may remain smaller than normal and you cannot reach the pause/interrupt commands because they are hidden outside the GUI window. (Until you change to full screen by the trick described above)
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Volker Annuss wrote:
Matthias Gemuh wrote:I am waiting for people to discover true bugs (other than the ones mentioned on ChessGUI website).
Matthias.
GhessGUI's graphics section that is showing thinking time and scores is broken in ChessGUI 0.245c.


Normally you cannot change the ChessGUI window size, but

- When you change the screen resolution in Windows, to a low resolution and back to normal again, ChessGUI uses the full screen size.

- When a game (not chess, but something using full screen) changes the screen resolution and the game is over, the ChessGUI window may remain smaller than normal and you cannot reach the pause/interrupt commands because they are hidden outside the GUI window. (Until you change to full screen by the trick described above)
Wow, that sounds really bad. :wink: :roll:
Only few people see the broken graphics you mention. I wish I did.
I haven't found out yet how to optimally scale VCL apps. Shall look again.

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Matthias.
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Volker Annuss wrote: Normally you cannot change the ChessGUI window size, but
I also believed that,
the answer is yes, in GUI2 options, resize gui, and reboot ChessGUI.
the answer is no, once started can not be scale as Matthias said.
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Well, Arena 2.01 has some quirks too. It did solve the hash problem but you can't stop and restart a tournament.
I'll give ChessGUI a shot now.
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Arena cannot do that? In WinBoard that is totally trivial. You can kill it any time, (or request it to stop after the current game finishes). And when you double click the tournament later, it will resume it. Of course you can also start a new tourney, and resume the interrupted one later; each tourney is a separate file. You can even 'resume' tourneys that are already running. That just adds extra playing agents to that tourney, to obtain concurency.

You can also replace one engine by another in an ongoing tourney, and have all its games replayed with the new engine.
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Re: Need some GUI suggestions for running Tournaments

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Paul Bedrey wrote:Well, Arena 2.01 has some quirks too. It did solve the hash problem but you can't stop and restart a tournament.
I'll give ChessGUI a shot now.
Really? I stop and restart tournaments frequently with that version of Arena.

I like certain things about Arena, ChessGUI, and Winboard. All three of them work well en ought once enough time is spent learning how to use them.