What a fast draw.
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[Event "Chess tournament"]
[Site "ChessGUI"]
[Date "2014.10.05"]
[Round "9.4"]
[White "Gull 3 x64"]
[Black "Elektro 1.0b x64"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Time "12:51:53"]
[TimeControl "1800"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[Termination "3-fold rep"]
[BlackType "program"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[Variant "normal"]
{ Intel Core I7 2670QM }
1.e4 Nc6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.d5 Nb8 5.Nxe4 c6 6.Bc4 cxd5 7.Qxd5 Qxd5 8.Bxd5 Nc6 9.Ne2 e6 10.Bb3 Nf6 11.Nxf6 gxf6 12.O-O Bd7 13.c3 
Rg8 14.Ng3 f5 15.Re1 O-O-O 16.Nh5 Rg6 17.g3 Bd6 18.Rd1 Bc7 19.Nf4 
Rgg8 20.Nh5 Rg6 21.Nf4 Rgg8 22.Nh5 Rg6 1/2-1/2
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				Guenther
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Very funny. Is this really what 'chess engines' afficionados want?
The official final table tournament
8.0 1 Stockfish 5 x64 = Stockfish
6.0 2 Sugar v2.0a x64 = Stockfish
6.0 3 Heron Impossible 1 x64 = Stockfish
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				Graham Banks  
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
Aren't both Sugar and Heron Impossible illegal anyway because they don't comply with the GPL?Guenther wrote:Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Very funny. Is this really what 'chess engines' afficionados want?
The official final table tournament
8.0 1 Stockfish 5 x64 = Stockfish
6.0 2 Sugar v2.0a x64 = Stockfish
6.0 3 Heron Impossible 1 x64 = Stockfish
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				jpqy
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
Sugar -> source included
Heron -> no source
DON -> source included
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						Heron -> no source
DON -> source included
JP.
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				Graham Banks  
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
Do the authors of DON and Sugar acknowledge what their engine is based on and give some credit to those authors?jpqy wrote:Sugar -> source included
Heron -> no source
DON -> source included
JP.
I've not looked.
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				Guenther
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
So far I have only seen dozens of messages where people claim there is no source for Sugar and the 'author' (BTW a known cloner probably the same as for 'Amitis'?) promised a source and weeks later there still was no source.jpqy wrote:Sugar -> source included
Heron -> no source
JP.
Can you provide a link to a source which really compiles to something like 'Sugar'?
At least it is clear that the first releases were more or less renamed Stockfish versions perhaps with little changed values and there was NO source.
Guenther
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				jpqy
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
Guenther..you find it everywhere..but i can't put link here..but everybody know it!
Everybody has to learn first..so these guys start maybe not the right way..but after a talk with them..have understand GPL and they put the source as included with the .exe files.. so no problem anymore.
This is much better then attack them directly..it's No use!
Only Heron don't understand it..i tried to talk with him..maybe too young to accept these rules..let him learn..
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						Everybody has to learn first..so these guys start maybe not the right way..but after a talk with them..have understand GPL and they put the source as included with the .exe files.. so no problem anymore.
This is much better then attack them directly..it's No use!
Only Heron don't understand it..i tried to talk with him..maybe too young to accept these rules..let him learn..
JP.
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				Guenther
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
Finally I found sources for Sugar 2.0b I still believe there were none before this version.jpqy wrote:Guenther..you find it everywhere..but i can't put link here..but everybody know it!
Everybody has to learn first..so these guys start maybe not the right way..but after a talk with them..have understand GPL and they put the source as included with the .exe files.. so no problem anymore.
This is much better then attack them directly..it's No use!
Only Heron don't understand it..i tried to talk with him..maybe too young to accept these rules..let him learn..
JP.
Anyway it is a tragedy so far I found only a few renamed cpp/h files and a few split or renamed functions + comments, practically all is identical.
It is so boring and disappointing to compare their sources that I leave it now.
I wouldn't be surprised by over 90% simtest results...
Guenther
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				Matthias Gemuh  
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
Thanks, Krzysztof, for using ChessGUI !Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:The whole tournament was at a high level. We would like to congratulate the winners of the tournament, the engine Stockfish and authors the engine Marco Costalba, Tord Romstad, Joona Kiiski and others. Thank you also to the other participants of the tournament. Thanks also to Graham Banks and Matthias Gemuh for program ChessGUI 0.245g. For the first time I tested this program and I really liked it.
The official final table tournament
8.0 1 Stockfish 5 x64
6.0 2 Sugar v2.0a x64
6.0 3 Heron Impossible 1 x64
5.5 4 DON 260914 x64-LP
5.5 5 Houdini 3 Pro x64
5.0 6 Elektro 1.0b x64
5.0 7 Komodo 5.1r2 x64
5.0 8 Equinox 3.20 x64
5.0 9 Fire 3.0 x64
...
All parties tournament - PGN
From respect
Krzysztof.
I hope to be back to chess programming soon.
Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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				Krzysztof Grzelak
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Re: Summary tournament " Chess tournament " - offi
Thank you very much for the program Matthias. I had a few more questions about this program. But perhaps you're a busy man and not very'll have time to answer.Matthias Gemuh wrote:Thanks, Krzysztof, for using ChessGUI !Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:The whole tournament was at a high level. We would like to congratulate the winners of the tournament, the engine Stockfish and authors the engine Marco Costalba, Tord Romstad, Joona Kiiski and others. Thank you also to the other participants of the tournament. Thanks also to Graham Banks and Matthias Gemuh for program ChessGUI 0.245g. For the first time I tested this program and I really liked it.
The official final table tournament
8.0 1 Stockfish 5 x64
6.0 2 Sugar v2.0a x64
6.0 3 Heron Impossible 1 x64
5.5 4 DON 260914 x64-LP
5.5 5 Houdini 3 Pro x64
5.0 6 Elektro 1.0b x64
5.0 7 Komodo 5.1r2 x64
5.0 8 Equinox 3.20 x64
5.0 9 Fire 3.0 x64
...
All parties tournament - PGN
From respect
Krzysztof.
I hope to be back to chess programming soon.
Matthias.
Krzysztof.