What's Vasik Rajlich doing today?

[Modern Times]

And it will be great,
If Vas again will be in ComputerChess, then our hobby will much more exiting..!

I missed him a lot...

Give me one good reason why he would return to the people who slaughtered him.

Yes, Vas the Victim... Please...

Yes that's right, Vas was the victim.

[Sylwy]

Surely his life was utterly ruined, at least in those years.
Fern

HI GENERALISSIMO !

Vas has a family, a nice private life, loves a lot the chess and the computer chess. Just the public relations in computer chess were stopped.
Ruined ? Not at all ! Just he knows better the human nature (the hatred, the envy - in general - and those of a very precise tribe in this situation) !
A nice subject for a great book, GENERALISSIMO ! After Balzac we need new explorations !

SilvianR

[Modern Times]

Vas has a family, a nice private life, loves a lot the chess and the computer chess. Just the public relations in computer chess were stopped.
Ruined ? Not at all ! Just he knows better the human nature (the hatred, the envy - in general - and those of a very precise tribe in this situation) !


SilvianR

Very well said.

And whatever he is doing today, I wish him all the best.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello Frank,

Thanks....and very interesting interview by Raimund Heid & Frank Quisinsky

Ok...I noticed that Raimund states about Stockfish, it seems he is a honest programmer !

But however, I wish to see the next new Protector version to be more stable, more original, stronger... !)
For example, under SCCT condtitions (Arena 3 GUI, 3m+1s) Protector sometimes forfeits on time
And the similarity is to high to Stockfish (nearly 54.5%)I think this is a lot...probably via Pia's method will hit 60%

In my opinion,
A good talented programer should be able to write a program, where the similarity should be less than 50 %
Even the latest Senpai passes 50% similarity near to Stockfish...hehe ))

And I am not going to disqualfy Protector, because my rules are +55 % and above...
Simply, Protector was lucky, otherwise I would requested +100 Elo to be over Stockfish
Or with my newest 2015 rules: I would use name-edit like e.g StockProt )

Btw, see here please another great interview by Vasik Rajlich & Alexander Schmidt

Did you notice that Vas states about Fruit, it seems he is honest programmer too!

And I agree with Vas, without Fruit: Rybka would be minus plus 20-30 Elo
Because in the world there is no only one engine, there are many other sources to learn, to study...

And I am wondering the same issue about the current rest top engines...
What would be their engine's elo ratings without IPOO (Rybka) can we say 20-30 to be weaker ??))
In my view, the latest top programs gained probably 300-500 Elo with Vas's ideas !


And here is the interview:


Interview with Vasik Rajlich, December 20, 2005 [28], a new age in Computerchess? Two questions by Alexander Schmidt:

20. Alexander Schmidt:
The increase in playing strength of the latest chess engines is unbelieveable. We have since some time with Fruit 2.1 by Fabien

Letouzey a very strong open source engine. Do you see a relation between the published sources of such a strong engine and the

increase of strength in computer chess in general? How much influence do the ideas of Fruit have on the future of computerchess?

Vasik Rajlich:
Yes, the publication of Fruit 2.1 was huge. Look at how many engines took a massive jump in its wake: Rybka, Hiarcs, Fritz, Zappa,

Spike, List, and so on. I went through the Fruit 2.1 source code forwards and backwards and took many things.

It is a bit of a pity that Rybka won't make the same contribution to the computer chess community, but at the moment I must also think

about protecting my secrets. It's the eternal struggle for a computer chess programmer.

21. Alexander Schmidt:
We had our first contact when I had questions about a similarity to Fruit in the search, others found similarities in the evaluation.

Some people where a little bit suspicious that Rybka could be a clone of the open source engine. In the meantime it is clear that

Rybka is no clone but you used ideas of Fruit (I guess all other serious engine programmers had a look at Fruit too). How strong would

Rybka actually be if the Fruit code would have never been published?

Vasik Rajlich:
It's a good question. I don't want to get too specific about which ideas from Fruit I think are really useful, but they fall into two

categories:

1) Very specific tricks, mostly related to search.
2) Philosophy of the engine (and in particular of the search).

Fruit could really hardly be more useful along both of these dimensions. Fabien is a very good engineer, and also has a very clear and

simple conception of how his search should behave.

Anyway, if I really had to give a number - my wild guess is that Rybka would be 20 rating points weaker had Fruit not appeared.


Best,
Sedat

[A Distel]

Hello dear Frank,


Rybka can be old, here this time I agree with you )
But note also that Rybka is like a fine wine !
And it gets better with age like wine ))!!

Sedat

What wine goes with this smelly fish?

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello dear Frank,


Rybka can be old, here this time I agree with you )
But note also that Rybka is like a fine wine !
And it gets better with age like wine ))!!

Sedat

What wine goes with this smelly fish?

It's too expensive wine...it is not your budget )

[Modern Times]

And it will be great,
If Vas again will be in ComputerChess, then our hobby will much more exiting..!

I missed him a lot...

Give me one good reason why he would return to the people who slaughtered him.

Yes, Vas the Victim... Please...

Yes that's right, Vas was the victim.

No he wasn't, not by the ICGA etc. Maybe by the so-called Decembrists who cloned Rybka in retaliation but the original charges he brought upon himself. If you are stupid enough to support unethical behavior like Ed and Dan then we have nothing further to discuss.

There is something really wrong with the weak mentality that covers for Vas and blames people of principle that held Vas accountable.

You can repeat and believe your falsehoods but it doesn't make you or any of you right.

Maybe Oliver Stone can make a movie of it.

There has been plenty of evidence since then that directly contradicts the ICGA's evidence and conclusions. So to me it is a case of the allegations being NOT PROVEN.

Maybe one day we will find out what the truth actually is. That would probably have to come from Vas himself, but we are unlikely to hear from him.

[Uri Blass]

And it will be great,
If Vas again will be in ComputerChess, then our hobby will much more exiting..!

I missed him a lot...

Give me one good reason why he would return to the people who slaughtered him.

Yes, Vas the Victim... Please...

Yes that's right, Vas was the victim.

No he wasn't, not by the ICGA etc. Maybe by the so-called Decembrists who cloned Rybka in retaliation but the original charges he brought upon himself. If you are stupid enough to support unethical behavior like Ed and Dan then we have nothing further to discuss.

Ed an Dan are not stupid.
If you decide that people who disagree with you are stupid we have nothing further to discuss.

[fern]

Just the public relations in computer chess were stopped....", you say, dear friend.

Well, isn't that enough to ruin his life?
He got his income from that, but not anymore
he was humiliated
crushed
destroyed

I try to imagine what would happens to my life if someone said one of my books was an entire fake.
I am sure I would not have a nice life even with my family around me.
If that was a lesson about humanity, it was too much expensive.

Fern

[Sylwy]

If that was a lesson about humanity, it was too much expensive.

GENERALISSIMO,
take a look - please - at what happens in our days in Syria & Iraq !
Or, closer to me, in Ukraine ! I know a lot of details, most of them unknown by you.
You think that the human nature was changed in the last 5,000 years ? Or 10.000 ? Or 50.000 ? In modern conditions just was a bit cosmetized. The laws, the education, the religion, the penalties, the............ Nothing, the true human nature is always present even in the spirit of the most educated people. Just waits for the conditions to manifest.

SilvianR