Gligoric-Smyslov, 1959

[beram]

Yeah, I checked the position more thoroughly.

Rb3 does not win, but Ra6 does.

It seems I am a better player than Smyslov.

Black is much better on the main diagram for the simple reason that the 2 white central passers on d4 and e5 go nowhere, as the squares in front of them are firmly controlled by black pieces, while the a4 black passer can quickly advance.
But as engines do not consider square control...

Secondly, of course, the white king is too exposed, and that, coupled with the above, ensures black big advantage.

White has some good chain pawns, but that is a secondary factor in the position.

SF is a very weak positional player.
It slaughters me tactically, but hardly ever makes a single good positional move.

Anyone seeing how white can avoid defeat after Ra6?

Dear Lyudmill,

After two weeks of spending(or wasting) your time on this position (your post was from Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:19 pm ) you have prooven yourself to be wrong all the way, as we allready expected and knew earlier on

I have red marked four wrong assumptions in your original post
It would be nice if you could at least admit that you where too optimistic
But I pretty much doubt you will agree on that

Same message to you: in 4 years you will claim yourself that the position is won for black, as latest SF development shows 5 full pawns black edge.

No problem at all to stop this thread, BUT, please note well, because you might not be that far-seeing: when I stop this thread, it will be all along Clone threads, today, yesterday and tomorrow.

You can not always prove everything...

....

...and you cannot always be right

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Rb2

[d]3b4/1r3k2/4q1p1/p1BbPpPp/B1pP1P2/2P3K1/1r1R4/R3Q3 w - - 0 15

Bc2 with eval 15cp for White:
[d]3b4/1r3k2/4q1p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR4/R3Q3 b - - 29 19

Qc6

[d]3b4/1r3k2/2q3p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR4/R3Q3 w - - 0 16

[zullil]

Qc6

[d]3b4/1r3k2/2q3p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR4/R3Q3 w - - 0 16

Qf2 with evaluation at 18cp for White:
[d]3b4/1r3k2/2q3p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR1Q2/R7 b - - 31 20

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Qc6

[d]3b4/1r3k2/2q3p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR4/R3Q3 w - - 0 16

Qf2 with evaluation at 18cp for White:
[d]3b4/1r3k2/2q3p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR1Q2/R7 b - - 31 20

Qc8

[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR1Q2/R7 w - - 0 17

[zullil]

Qc8

[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR1Q2/R7 w - - 0 17

Ba3 with eval at 18cp for White:
[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/p2bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/1rBR1Q2/R7 b - - 33 21

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Qc8

[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/p1BbPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/1rBR1Q2/R7 w - - 0 17

Ba3 with eval at 18cp for White:
[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/p2bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/1rBR1Q2/R7 b - - 33 21

R2b5

[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/2BR1Q2/R7 w - - 0 18

[zullil]

R2b5

[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/2BR1Q2/R7 w - - 0 18

SF plays Qe2 with eval 24cp for White.
[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 b - - 35 22

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

R2b5

[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/2BR1Q2/R7 w - - 0 18

SF plays Qe2 with eval 24cp for White.
[d]2qb4/1r3k2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 b - - 35 22

Be7

[d]2q5/1r2bk2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 w - - 0 19

[zullil]

Be7

[d]2q5/1r2bk2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 w - - 0 19

SF plays Bxe7 with eval at 0:
[d]2q5/1r2Bk2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 b - - 0 23

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Be7

[d]2q5/1r2bk2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/B1P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 w - - 0 19

SF plays Bxe7 with eval at 0:
[d]2q5/1r2Bk2/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 b - - 0 23

Ke7

[d]2q5/1r2k3/6p1/pr1bPpPp/2pP1P2/2P3K1/2BRQ3/R7 w - - 0 20