The future shift

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Re: The future shift

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peter wrote:
zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: In the other line with Kh1, I get a position like that:

[d]2bqnrk1/5ppp/8/3pPPPN/2pP4/1pP4B/7P/2Q3RK w - - 0 7
Looks like you gave yourself an extra tempo, since you have the rook on g1 and the bishop on h3.

[EDIT] Two tempi, since you also have White to move. Remember, chess is an adversarial game---your opponent gets to move too. :wink:
That's exactly what I thought too, when I first saw it, the black Knight might have gone to e8 and back and to b5 and back and to e8 again.
:)

BTW, after 24.Kh1 Black could have had (almost) forced 3fold with ...Nb5,
(instead of your SF's ..Ne8) if he had wanted to:

24.Kh1 Nb5 25.Qe3 Na3 26.Qc1 Nb5
I think Lyudmil realized that his Kh1 is too slow, so he played a couple of nullmoves for SF.:wink:

Looks like a draw after all.
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:I think Lyudmil realized that his Kh1 is too slow, so he played a couple of nullmoves for SF.:wink:

Looks like a draw after all.
It does, but Lyudmil has seen very well, that it depends on a few tempi only indeed.
After all, he's just such a pumpkin anyhow, isn't he?
:)
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:OK, my second move after Nh5 Nc7 is Kh1

[d]2bq1rk1/2n2ppp/8/3pPPPN/2pP4/1pP5/6BP/2Q2R1K b - - 0 2

How does black defend here?
SF plays Ne8 with evaluation 0.
[d]2bqnrk1/5ppp/8/3pPPPN/2pP4/1pP5/6BP/2Q2R1K w - - 1 3

I'll let the search continue, in case SF sees something before you reply.
h4

[d]2bqnrk1/5ppp/8/3pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/6B1/2Q2R1K b - h3 0 3
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: h4
[d]2bqnrk1/5ppp/8/3pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/6B1/2Q2R1K b - h3 0 3
Sorry for the slow reply---busy morning here:

SF plays Qa5 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/6B1/2Q2R1K w - - 1 4
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: h4
[d]2bqnrk1/5ppp/8/3pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/6B1/2Q2R1K b - h3 0 3
Sorry for the slow reply---busy morning here:

SF plays Qa5 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/6B1/2Q2R1K w - - 1 4
Bh3

[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 4
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bh3

[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 4
Nc7 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K w - - 3 5
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bh3

[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 4
Nc7 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K w - - 3 5
Sorry, I was busy now.

e6

[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/4P3/q2p1PPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 5
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Sorry, I was busy now.

e6

[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/4P3/q2p1PPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 5
No problem. SF plays fxe6 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b2rk1/2n3pp/4p3/q2p1PPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K w - - 0 6
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Sorry, I was busy now.

e6

[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/4P3/q2p1PPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 5
No problem. SF plays fxe6 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b2rk1/2n3pp/4p3/q2p1PPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K w - - 0 6
f6

[d]2b2rk1/2n3pp/4pP2/q2p2PN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 6
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: f6

[d]2b2rk1/2n3pp/4pP2/q2p2PN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 6
SF plays Ne8 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/4pP2/q2p2PN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K w - - 1 7