FCT League 1 / 2: Interesting stats to League 2 !!

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

at first:

FCT League 1: http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_fcp-league-1.htm
FCT League 2: http://www.amateurschach.de/main/_fcp-league-2.htm

at second:
In the last months I am building FCT League 2. A lot of new engines I added in my test system. 1800 games missed at last after I added so many new engines. Very interesting are the FCT League 2 stats if the different between 21 engines 109 Elo only. Very high are the draw quote and interesting again and again ... with each of such tourneys in the past ... the stats to middlegame / transposition endgame and endgame I do are allways the same. Elo here not very interesting but all other things.

at third:
And here the current table to FCT League 2:.

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 Version: 3.00.L2-BT
 Engine : Basic-Tourney 

     Programs                      Score       1-0  =  0-1         EloS  Baye  Ordo  +   -  Draws MoveØ won<50 lost<50
 01. Quazar 0.4 x64                570.0/1000  338 464 198  57.0%  2765  2762  2766  16 16  46.4%  100      3       2
 02. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64         565.5/1000  341 449 210  56.5%  2762  2759  2762  16 16  44.9%   91      5       2
 03. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64          565.0/1000  351 428 221  56.5%  2761  2760  2762  16 16  42.8%   99      7       4
 03. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64 565.0/1000  336 458 206  56.5%  2761  2759  2762  16 16  45.8%   84      7      10
 05. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64       547.5/1000  345 405 250  54.8%  2750  2750  2750  17 17  40.5%   93      5       8
 06. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64               544.5/1000  320 449 231  54.4%  2748  2747  2748  16 16  44.9%   84      6       5
 07. Cheng4 0.38 x64               543.0/1000  315 456 229  54.3%  2747  2747  2747  16 16  45.6%   88     12       0
 08. Spark 1.0 x64                 540.5/1000  318 445 237  54.0%  2745  2745  2745  16 16  44.5%   93     16       2
 09. Zappa Mexico II x64           521.0/1000  301 440 259  52.1%  2732  2733  2732  16 16  44.0%   92      1       3
 10. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64        519.5/1000  290 459 251  51.9%  2731  2733  2731  16 16  45.9%   89     15       5
 11. Atlas 3.80 x64                505.5/1000  268 475 257  50.5%  2722  2724  2721  16 16  47.5%   91      3       2
 12. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64           501.0/1000  278 446 276  50.1%  2719  2722  2718  16 16  44.6%   92      3      11
 13. Arasan 17.5 POP x64           494.0/1000  266 456 278  49.4%  2714  2716  2714  16 16  45.6%   93      7       2
 14. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64     484.5/1000  251 467 282  48.4%  2708  2711  2707  16 16  46.7%   90      1       3
 15. Murka 3 x64                   456.5/1000  204 505 291  45.6%  2689  2696  2688  15 15  50.5%   92      0       2
 16. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64        455.5/1000  223 465 312  45.6%  2689  2694  2687  16 16  46.5%   91      4       4
 17. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64    451.5/1000  242 419 339  45.1%  2686  2691  2684  16 16  41.9%   92      8       5
 18. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64           426.5/1000  192 469 339  42.6%  2669  2678  2667  16 16  46.9%   93      1      16
 19. DisasterArea 1.54 x64         425.5/1000  191 469 340  42.5%  2668  2678  2667  16 16  46.9%   93      2       5
 20. EXchess 7.51b x64             413.5/1000  194 439 367  41.3%  2660  2670  2658  16 16  43.9%   90      4       5
 21. Crafty 24.1 SSE42 x64         404.5/1000  198 413 389  40.5%  2654  2664  2652  17 17  41.3%   91      5      19

And here the current table to FCT League 1:

Interesting:
Only 5 people have interest to see Houdini and Rybka in my League 1. But no other results I await. On the other hand, not many People visiting my webpage and can saw my News and hint on FCT League 1 detail page. Interest on Ratings lost on the last years. I can see that in my stats to rating systems. I think most of the users have enough and follow results between TOP 1-5. For me very boring but we all have different interesting. And so many good rating systems from others are available too.

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Version: 3.00.L1-BT
Engine : Basic-Tourney

     Programs                      Score       1-0  =  0-1         EloS  Baye  Ordo  +   -  Draws  MoveØ won<50 lost<50
 01. Komodo 9 x64                  793.5/1000  617 353  30  79.3%  3129  3105  3129  18 18  35.3%   87     17       2
 02. Stockfish 26Apr2015 BMI2 x64  791.0/1000  606 370  24  79.1%  3127  3100  3127  18 17  37.0%   81     20       0
 03. Fire 4 x64                    680.5/1000  463 435 102  68.0%  3032  3020  3032  16 16  43.5%   87     12       0
 04. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64        669.0/1000  436 466  98  66.9%  3023  3010  3023  16 16  46.6%   90      9       1
 05. Equinox 3.30 x64              626.0/1000  396 460 144  62.6%  2992  2985  2992  16 16  46.0%   91      1       2
 06. Critter 1.6a x64              596.0/1000  338 516 146  59.6%  2971  2960  2971  15 15  51.6%   90      8       3
 07. Sting SF 4.8.4 x64            538.5/1000  281 515 204  53.8%  2932  2925  2932  15 15  51.5%   91      7       0
 08. Protector 1.7.0 x64           507.5/1000  262 491 247  50.7%  2912  2905  2912  15 15  49.1%   88      7       2
 09. Nirvanachess 2.1c POP x64     504.0/1000  248 512 240  50.4%  2909  2903  2909  15 15  51.2%   89      5       3
 10. Hannibal 1.5 x64              497.0/1000  259 476 265  49.7%  2905  2900  2905  16 16  47.6%   92      1      11
 11. Chiron 2.0 x64                484.5/1000  264 441 295  48.4%  2897  2894  2897  16 16  44.1%   88      6       4
 12. Texel 1.05 x64                479.0/1000  251 456 293  47.9%  2893  2889  2893  16 16  45.6%   90      8       1
 13. Naum 4.6 x64                  460.0/1000  218 484 298  46.0%  2880  2878  2880  15 15  48.4%   90      5       3
 14. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64          386.0/1000  170 432 398  38.6%  2830  2830  2830  16 16  43.2%   87      1      20
 15. Andscacs 0.72 POP x64         385.5/1000  175 421 404  38.6%  2830  2829  2830  16 17  42.1%   89      4       8
 16. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32            378.5/1000  157 443 400  37.9%  2825  2825  2825  16 16  44.3%   89      4      10
 17. Shredder 12 x64               358.5/1000  143 431 426  35.9%  2811  2812  2811  16 16  43.1%   87      1      23
 18. Junior 13.3.00 x64            352.0/1000  152 400 448  35.2%  2806  2806  2806  17 17  40.0%   84      9       7
 19. Vajolet2 2.0 POP x64          345.0/1000  147 396 457  34.5%  2801  2801  2801  17 17  39.6%   88      3       9
 20. Sjeng c't 2010 w32            339.0/1000  133 412 455  33.9%  2796  2798  2796  17 17  41.2%   87      2       8
 21. Spike 1.4 Leiden w32          329.0/1000  130 398 472  32.9%  2789  2791  2789  17 17  39.8%   86      3      16

The stats will be follow in the next posting!
All need a bit time, I am older and older ... to old for such things!

And Thinker should be a clone
So different each of the stats to others, same in SWCR times.
From which engine Thinker should be a clone?
Must be the best clone the World have seen, nobody can see it in stats with the games we have.

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

such stats I made with more games up to move number 49 too.
Spark is here 179 Elo stronger as the most others. But Cheng comes here also with strong results.

Persons like Spark will be like Cheng and Fizbo too. I hope the programmer of Fizbo can fix the bugs in current versions. I am sure Fizbo will be an event for FCT League 1 with the style the engine have.

Such stats are good for building an opinion about the playing style of an engine.

Again ... very interesting to see the stats if the different between place 1 and 21 are 109 Elo only. Means we get more and better information for building an opinion about the playing style.

The middlegame from Quazar is really very special (not start of the middlegame, more or less very passiv). For a year or so I try to find out more over Quazar and wrote a long message about the style in German CSS forum. I am sure the programmer is an expert for that playing phase, must have a lot of chess knowledge.

Best
Frank

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 FCT League 2, 3.00.L2-BT, games with move number 020-059
 Elostat 1.3,   EloØ = 2.718, Category = 19

     Programs                         Elo   +   - Games Score Av.Op. Draws   Won Draw Lost
 01. Spark 1.0 x64                  : 2797  34 32  146  62.7%  2707  63.7%    45   93    8
 02. Cheng4 0.38 x64                : 2789  32 30  157  60.5%  2715  66.2%    43  104   10
 03. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64                : 2776  33 32  151  58.6%  2715  65.6%    39   99   13
 04. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64          : 2775  34 32  128  57.8%  2720  68.8%    30   88   10
 05. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64     : 2759  43 43  120  55.4%  2721  52.5%    35   63   22
 06. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64         : 2750  33 32  179  55.3%  2713  59.2%    46  106   27
 07. Zappa Mexico II x64            : 2747  40 40  111  53.6%  2722  62.2%    25   69   17
 08. Atlas 3.80 x64                 : 2741  31 30  118  52.5%  2723  76.3%    17   90   11
 09. Arasan 17.5 POP x64            : 2726  37 36  117  51.3%  2717  66.7%    21   78   18
 10. EXchess 7.51b x64              : 2722  37 37  121  51.2%  2714  64.5%    23   78   20
 11. Quazar 0.4 x64                 : 2721  43 43   89  49.4%  2725  65.2%    15   58   16
 12. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64        : 2714  39 39  123  50.0%  2714  61.0%    24   75   24
 12. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64  : 2714  30 30  167  49.7%  2716  68.3%    26  114   27
 14. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64         : 2713  35 35  131  49.2%  2719  66.4%    21   87   23
 15. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64           : 2701  67 67   59  47.5%  2719  44.1%    15   26   18
 16. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64            : 2684  33 34  148  44.6%  2722  63.5%    19   94   35
 17. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64      : 2678  37 37  140  43.6%  2723  58.6%    20   82   38
 18. Murka 3 x64                    : 2661  35 36  129  41.5%  2721  64.3%    12   83   34
 19. DisasterArea 1.54 x64          : 2651  35 36  120  41.7%  2709  66.7%    10   80   30
 20. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64            : 2643  34 36  144  38.9%  2722  61.1%    12   88   44
 21. Crafty 24.1 SSE42 x64          : 2599  42 43  148  32.1%  2729  43.9%    15   65   68

 Games         : 1373
 White Perf.   : 55.9%
 Black Perf.   : 44.1%
 White Wins    :  338 Games (24.6%)
 Black Wins    :  175 Games (12.7%)
 Draws         :  860 Games (62.6%)

 ECO A00-A99   :  229 Games (16.7%)
 ECO B00-B99   :  333 Games (24.3%)
 ECO C00-C99   :  269 Games (19.6%)
 ECO D00-D99   :  254 Games (18.5%)
 ECO E00-E99   :  288 Games (21.0%)
 
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 FCT League 2, 3.00.L2-BT, games with move number  060-099
 Elostat 1.3,   EloØ = 2.718, Category = 19

     Programs                         Elo   +   - Games Score Av.Op. Draws   Won Draw Lost
 01. Quazar 0.4 x64                 : 2800  26 26  533  62.3%  2713  24.4%   267  130  136
 02. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64          : 2786  25 25  560  60.0%  2715  27.1%   260  152  148
 03. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64  : 2770  23 22  603  57.8%  2715  35.0%   243  211  149
 04. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64                : 2766  22 22  629  57.2%  2715  33.7%   254  212  163
 05. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64           : 2764  26 25  552  56.8%  2716  24.1%   247  133  172
 06. Cheng4 0.38 x64                : 2751  24 24  570  55.2%  2715  28.9%   232  165  173
 07. Spark 1.0 x64                  : 2748  26 26  538  54.3%  2718  24.2%   227  130  181
 08. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64        : 2743  25 25  559  54.0%  2715  23.6%   236  132  191
 09. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64         : 2738  25 25  534  53.2%  2716  27.3%   211  146  177
 10. Zappa Mexico II x64            : 2733  24 24  582  52.1%  2718  28.0%   222  163  197
 11. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64            : 2732  25 25  535  52.1%  2717  26.9%   207  144  184
 12. Atlas 3.80 x64                 : 2721  23 23  590  50.6%  2717  30.7%   208  181  201
 13. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64      : 2701  24 24  563  47.2%  2721  30.4%   180  171  212
 14. Murka 3 x64                    : 2699  23 23  549  47.3%  2718  37.7%   156  207  186
 15. Arasan 17.5 POP x64            : 2698  24 24  562  46.8%  2720  29.2%   181  164  217
 16. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64         : 2683  24 24  563  44.6%  2721  29.5%   168  166  229
 17. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64     : 2672  25 25  577  43.1%  2721  26.2%   173  151  253
 18. Crafty 24.1 SSE42 x64          : 2647  25 25  566  39.3%  2723  25.3%   151  143  272
 19. DisasterArea 1.54 x64          : 2646  24 24  576  39.3%  2721  30.0%   140  173  263
 19. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64            : 2646  25 25  528  39.2%  2722  28.8%   131  152  245
 21. EXchess 7.51b x64              : 2633  25 25  575  37.4%  2722  26.4%   139  152  284

 Games         : 5922
 White Perf.   : 56.0%
 Black Perf.   : 44.0%
 White Wins    : 2474 Games (41.8%)
 Black Wins    : 1759 Games (29.7%)
 Draws         : 2689 Games (28.5%)

 ECO A00-A99   :  968 Games (16.3%)
 ECO B00-B99   : 1429 Games (24.1%)
 ECO C00-C99   : 1311 Games (22.1%)
 ECO D00-D99   : 1073 Games (18.1%)
 ECO E00-E99   : 1141 Games (19.3%)

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 FCT League 2, 3.00.L2-BT, games with move number 100-299
 Elostat 1.3,   EloØ = 2.718, Category = 19
 
     Programs                         Elo   +   - Games Score Av.Op. Draws   Won Draw Lost
 01. Deuterium 14.3.34.130 POP x64  : 2775  29 29  230  58.0%  2719  57.8%    67  133   30
 02. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64        : 2771  23 23  318  57.9%  2716  62.3%    85  198   35
 03. DiscoCheck 5.2.1 x64           : 2766  19 19  389  57.5%  2713  69.2%    89  269   31
 04. Arasan 17.5 POP x64            : 2739  22 22  321  53.3%  2716  66.7%    64  214   43
 05. MinkoChess 1.3 JA POP x64      : 2738  21 21  297  53.2%  2715  72.1%    51  214   32
 06. Zappa Mexico II x64            : 2727  22 22  307  51.5%  2717  67.8%    54  208   45
 07. Quazar 0.4 x64                 : 2726  18 18  378  51.3%  2717  73.0%    56  276   46
 08. Atlas 3.80 x64                 : 2718  22 22  292  49.7%  2720  69.9%    43  204   45
 09. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64          : 2717  22 22  312  49.8%  2718  67.0%    51  209   52
 10. Spark 1.0 x64                  : 2716  21 21  316  49.7%  2718  70.3%    46  222   48
 10. Pedone 1.1 BMI2 x64            : 2716  21 21  328  49.8%  2717  69.8%    49  229   50
 12. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64            : 2713  22 22  317  49.2%  2718  65.6%    52  208   57
 12. Cheng4 0.38 x64                : 2713  23 23  273  48.9%  2720  68.5%    40  187   46
 14. DisasterArea 1.54 x64          : 2712  21 21  304  49.0%  2719  71.1%    41  216   47
 15. Thinker 5.4d Inert x64         : 2701  21 21  287  47.6%  2718  72.1%    33  207   47
 16. Crafty 24.1 SSE42 x64          : 2697  21 22  286  47.0%  2718  71.7%    32  205   49
 17. Nemo 1.01 Beta POP x64         : 2690  21 22  306  45.8%  2720  69.3%    34  212   60
 18. EXchess 7.51b x64              : 2686  22 22  304  44.9%  2722  68.8%    32  209   63
 19. Rodent 1.7 Build 1 POP x64     : 2683  22 22  303  45.0%  2718  67.7%    34  205   64
 20. Murka 3 x64                    : 2682  22 22  322  44.6%  2720  66.8%    36  215   71
 21. Fizbo 1.3.1 x64                : 2675  28 28  220  43.6%  2719  62.7%    27  138   55

 Games         : 3205
 White Perf.   : 51.2%
 Black Perf.   : 48.8%
 White Wins    :  548 Games (17.1%)
 Black Wins    :  468 Games (14.6%)
 Draws         : 2189 Games (68.3%)

 ECO A00-A99   :  487 Games (15.2%)
 ECO B00-B99   :  756 Games (23.6%)
 ECO C00-C99   :  716 Games (22.3%)
 ECO D00-D99   :  653 Games (20.4%)
 ECO E00-E99   :  593 Games (18.5%)

[Graham Banks]

....The middlegame from Quazar is really very special (not start of the middlegame, more or less very passiv). For a year or so I try to find out more over Quazar and wrote a long message about the style in German CSS forum. I am sure the programmer is an expert for that playing phase, must have a lot of chess knowledge......

I find Quazar to be superb with its pawn play.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Absolutely!!!

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Graham,

I found out last year that Quazar must have a lot of knowledge to knights. Knights goes long ways for better positions in middlegames. Good to see with knights, difficult to see with bishops. Search the open lines for bishops and each time a good position for knights and bishops. Plays not very aggressive with open lines but hold the good positions and for such reason the king safty is good in middlegames. The draw stats from Quazar are very interesting too.

And for good knights the pawn structure is important. The next strengths, you wrote ...

For many years ... I am thinking on Walter Raveneck (The Netherlands) ... Arthur comes with such strengths. In Leiden I search the discussion with Walter and he told me that indeed this one he like a lot. Walter are extremly friendly ... a very very nice guy. Good to see in Arthur games the strenghts with knights in middlegames. Unfortunately, never a Arthur version was available, I tryed all to get a version in the past for my older WB site. At last he told me that he is working on a WB version, I believe he told me that for around 12 years.

One of the most interesting engines, never available for free or commercial. Last year I analyzed Arthur games with other engines. Yes, Arthur was a superb program.

Best
Frank