If Fritz with Rybka WILL be stronger than....

[S.Taylor]

other top engines, and the other top engines will be at their best to date, too, and if tcec has solved its problems,
then it is certainly high time for next tcec tournament.

Does anyone know if all this is about to happen?

(and as i often wish for, there should also be top engines that have NOT been updated so we can see how much better the new ones are playing.)

[Graham Banks]

If Fritz 15 remains native to the Chessbase GUI, Martin will not be able to include it in TCEC unless he switches to that GUI.

[reflectionofpower]

If Fritz 15 remains native to the Chessbase GUI, Martin will not be able to include it in TCEC unless he switches to that GUI.

There can be only two reasons why it remains native: 1) They are afraid of it being pirated or 2) They want you to pay for the GUI & engine which is a good deal and I personally feel best in.

Because every single engine that I know of is UCI

Just my opinion.

[Modern Times]

I'd be surprised if it is stronger than Stockfish and Komodo, but happy to be proved wrong.

[reflectionofpower]

I'd be surprised if it is stronger than Stockfish and Komodo, but happy to be proved wrong.

I wouldn't be. I hardly think Vas has been doing nothing for 4.5 years and he was way ahead of everyone in that same time frame.

[hgm]

Well, untill there is any evidence to the contrary, I suppose that Vas simply sold the version that he made after deciding that he should not release any binaries anymore, as they were pirated and reverse engeneered practically instantly. He tried the businessmodel of a cluster-for-rent, and concentrated his efforts on that. But it obviously was a failure, so he abandoned computer Chess. And currently the cluster version generates zero income for him, so it would be logical to sell off whatever he had lying on the shelf if there was an interested party.

If what he had was stronger than current Stockfish or Komodo, he probably would release it himself as Rybka 5. Note that it is not possible to generate a decent income from developing a Chess engine,considering the effort you would have to put in it. Especially as long as Stockfish is around. Vas would be a fool to put any more time in such an endeavor, if he already has a decently paying job.

[S.Taylor]

Exactly.
He would unlikely have been working tirelesly on Rybka 24/7 for the past few years. Probably didn't even LOOK at it.
It would not have been human nature.

[reflectionofpower]

If what he had was stronger than current Stockfish or Komodo, he probably would release it himself as Rybka 5. Note that it is not possible to generate a decent income from developing a Chess engine,considering the effort you would have to put in it. Especially as long as Stockfish is around. Vas would be a fool to put any more time in such an endeavor, if he already has a decently paying job.

Shortly thereafter when Rybka 4.1 fiasco started why would Vas then go onto release a version 5. It wouldn't even come up. No one would want to go through that hell.

[hgm]

Well, it would have been good timing,from a marketing point of view. Rybka was in the news because of the affair, and this had already led to an increase of its sales. But it was clear that whatever improvements he would release would be copied within a week in the Strelkas and Ippolits of this world.

[reflectionofpower]

Well, it would have been good timing,from a marketing point of view. Rybka was in the news because of the affair, and this had already led to an increase of its sales. But it was clear that whatever improvements he would release would be copied within a week in the Strelkas and Ippolits of this world.

I have to agree with you here. The PR was enormous. Celebrities utilize the bad things in their life more prominently and they always get free publicity.

Look at Charlie Sheen.