Seems to me a valid suggestion. Changed the layout of the textfile. See the updated YAT page.elcabesa wrote:May I suggest you a change to the opponent file? It would be easier for the engine if it also knows his own rating in your tournament!
YAT - Yet another tournament
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Hi Peter,
Very interesting indeed for the reasons you gave but for the moment I like to keep the experiment a programmer tournament only.Peter Berger wrote:I suggest including two engines/entities;
1.) Stockfish 0x112015
running with no book.
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Will the games start from start position, Or will you use some arena opening book?
Are any open book allowed?
Are any open book allowed?
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You are responsible for your own book, if the Arena book is your choice that's fine.elcabesa wrote:Will the games start from start position, Or will you use some arena opening book?
Are any open book allowed?
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reading your site I had notu nderstod what will happen if I let Vajolet play without an opening book, it will play from the first move on his own, or are you going to use a simple opening book, let's say 2 op 3 move depth, to have not too many equal games?
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Ok, but on your own machine you can also use the ICS protocol between engine and tournament. It is standard and an ICS is available as open source. The thing with files is not standard. On a chess server, even if run on a local host, the engine can peek in the history of its opponent games and adjust the opening for example. Or do you plan that this can also be done with the file: feed the entire tournament and player history to the program before each round. Joshua Shriver has run such a system (local ICS) for a long time (but he accepted Linux programs as well BTW).
To use the ICS standard is just a suggestion, because if it is to be run on your machine anyway that is probably a barrier for entry in my specific case. It is too much work to port to windows, and my new windows engine can't do these things at all.
To use the ICS standard is just a suggestion, because if it is to be run on your machine anyway that is probably a barrier for entry in my specific case. It is too much work to port to windows, and my new windows engine can't do these things at all.
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Ed, this is a giant step in the right direction. It's time to treat computer chess as AI chess instead of a/b searcher chess.Rebel wrote:YAT is a computer-computer tournament that emulates a human-human tournament or a SSDF | ICGA | CSVN | CCT tournament as close as possible in the sense that opening books are allowed, all kind of learning is allowed, opponent preparation is allowed and last but not least that engine authors have the right to know the name and elo rating of the opponent.
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Yes, it is somewhat unclear, I added:elcabesa wrote:reading your site I had notu nderstod what will happen if I let Vajolet play without an opening book, it will play from the first move on his own, or are you going to use a simple opening book, let's say 2 op 3 move depth, to have not too many equal games?
On opening books - you are responsible for your own opening book. If you don't have one make sure you get one. There are many freely available opening books. You can also make the choice to use the Arena book. Just instruct me well.
And about equal games, that's just the fun of learning, avoid the openings (or positions) your engine doesn't respond well and repeat the openings your engine has a good score.
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good understood!