Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
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Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
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Re: Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
Svidler's last move 12. ... Bf8 seems to be the Novelty here.
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Re: Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
[pgn]
[Event "Moscow Candidates"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.03.27"]
[Round "13"]
[White "Caruana, Fabiano"]
[Black "Svidler, Peter"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C84"]
[PlyCount "231"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6
5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 Bd7 9. c3 O-O 10. Bc2 b4 11. Re1 Re8
12. Nbd2 Bf8 13. a5 g6 14. Bb3 Be6 15. Ba4 Bd7 16. Nf1 h6 17. Ng3 bxc3
18. bxc3 Bg7 19. h3 d5 20. exd5 Nxd5 21. Ne4 Nb8 22. Bb3 Be6 23. Bd2 Nd7
24. Ba4 f5 25. Ng3 c5 26. Bb3 Qc7 27. h4 N5f6 28. Bxe6+ Rxe6 29. h5 f4
30. Ne4 Nxh5 31. d4 Qc6 32. Qb3 c4 33. Qa4 Qd5 34. Rad1 Rae8 35. dxe5
Nxe5 36. Nxe5 Rxe5 37. Bxf4 Qb5 38. Qxb5 Rxb5 39. Bd6 Kh8 40. g4 Nf6 41.
Nxf6 Rxe1+ 42. Rxe1 Bxf6 43. Re8+ Kg7 44. Bb4 Re5 45. Rc8 Re6 46. Rc7+
Kg8 47. Rxc4 h5 48. Kg2 Kf7 49. Rc5 hxg4 50. Rc7+ Ke8 51. Rc4 Kd7 52.
Rxg4 Be5 53. c4 Bc7 54. Kf3 Rf6+ 55. Ke3 Re6+ 56. Kd3 Rf6 57. Ke3 Re6+
58. Kd3 Rf6 59. Rg5 Rxf2 60. Rxg6 Rf3+ 61. Kc2 Rf5 62. Rxa6 Kc8 63. Kd3
Rh5 64. c5 Kb7 65. Rg6 Bxa5 66. Bxa5 Rxc5 67. Bb4 Rc6 68. Bd6 Kc8 69.
Kd4 Rb6 70. Kd5 Rb7 71. Rg8+ Kd7 72. Bc5 Kc7 73. Rg6 Kd7 74. Rh6 Kc7 75.
Rc6+ Kd7 76. Bb6 Ke8 77. Bd4 Kd7 78. Rd6+ Kc8 79. Ke6 Kc7 80. Ra6 Rb5
81. Ra1 Kc6 82. Rc1+ Kb7 83. Kd6 Ka6 84. Rc6+ Ka5 85. Bc5 Rb7 86. Kd5
Kb5 87. Bd6 Ka4 88. Ra6+ Kb5 89. Ra1 Kb6 90. Rc1 Kb5 91. Rc6 Ka4 92. Bc5
Kb5 93. Rd6 Ka4 94. Kc6 Rb8 95. Rd3 Rc8+ 96. Kd5 Rd8+ 97. Bd6 Rc8 98.
Ra3+ Kb5 99. Rb3+ Ka4 100. Rb4+ Ka5 101. Bc5 Rh8 102. Rb7 Ka4 103. Kc4
Rh4+ 104. Bd4 Rh5 105. Bf2 Rg5 106. Rh7 Rg4+ 107. Bd4 Rg5 108. Rh8 Rb5
109. Ra8+ Ra5 110. Rb8 Rh5 111. Bf6 Ka5 112. Bc3+ Ka6 113. Bd4 Rh6 114.
Be3 Re6 115. Rb3 Rc6+ 116. Kd5 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]
[Event "Moscow Candidates"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2016.03.27"]
[Round "13"]
[White "Caruana, Fabiano"]
[Black "Svidler, Peter"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C84"]
[PlyCount "231"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6
5. O-O Be7 6. d3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. a4 Bd7 9. c3 O-O 10. Bc2 b4 11. Re1 Re8
12. Nbd2 Bf8 13. a5 g6 14. Bb3 Be6 15. Ba4 Bd7 16. Nf1 h6 17. Ng3 bxc3
18. bxc3 Bg7 19. h3 d5 20. exd5 Nxd5 21. Ne4 Nb8 22. Bb3 Be6 23. Bd2 Nd7
24. Ba4 f5 25. Ng3 c5 26. Bb3 Qc7 27. h4 N5f6 28. Bxe6+ Rxe6 29. h5 f4
30. Ne4 Nxh5 31. d4 Qc6 32. Qb3 c4 33. Qa4 Qd5 34. Rad1 Rae8 35. dxe5
Nxe5 36. Nxe5 Rxe5 37. Bxf4 Qb5 38. Qxb5 Rxb5 39. Bd6 Kh8 40. g4 Nf6 41.
Nxf6 Rxe1+ 42. Rxe1 Bxf6 43. Re8+ Kg7 44. Bb4 Re5 45. Rc8 Re6 46. Rc7+
Kg8 47. Rxc4 h5 48. Kg2 Kf7 49. Rc5 hxg4 50. Rc7+ Ke8 51. Rc4 Kd7 52.
Rxg4 Be5 53. c4 Bc7 54. Kf3 Rf6+ 55. Ke3 Re6+ 56. Kd3 Rf6 57. Ke3 Re6+
58. Kd3 Rf6 59. Rg5 Rxf2 60. Rxg6 Rf3+ 61. Kc2 Rf5 62. Rxa6 Kc8 63. Kd3
Rh5 64. c5 Kb7 65. Rg6 Bxa5 66. Bxa5 Rxc5 67. Bb4 Rc6 68. Bd6 Kc8 69.
Kd4 Rb6 70. Kd5 Rb7 71. Rg8+ Kd7 72. Bc5 Kc7 73. Rg6 Kd7 74. Rh6 Kc7 75.
Rc6+ Kd7 76. Bb6 Ke8 77. Bd4 Kd7 78. Rd6+ Kc8 79. Ke6 Kc7 80. Ra6 Rb5
81. Ra1 Kc6 82. Rc1+ Kb7 83. Kd6 Ka6 84. Rc6+ Ka5 85. Bc5 Rb7 86. Kd5
Kb5 87. Bd6 Ka4 88. Ra6+ Kb5 89. Ra1 Kb6 90. Rc1 Kb5 91. Rc6 Ka4 92. Bc5
Kb5 93. Rd6 Ka4 94. Kc6 Rb8 95. Rd3 Rc8+ 96. Kd5 Rd8+ 97. Bd6 Rc8 98.
Ra3+ Kb5 99. Rb3+ Ka4 100. Rb4+ Ka5 101. Bc5 Rh8 102. Rb7 Ka4 103. Kc4
Rh4+ 104. Bd4 Rh5 105. Bf2 Rg5 106. Rh7 Rg4+ 107. Bd4 Rg5 108. Rh8 Rb5
109. Ra8+ Ra5 110. Rb8 Rh5 111. Bf6 Ka5 112. Bc3+ Ka6 113. Bd4 Rh6 114.
Be3 Re6 115. Rb3 Rc6+ 116. Kd5 1/2-1/2
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Re: Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
After Svidler's mistake on move 102 Caruana could have played 105. Rb2 which would have mated just in time before a 50-move draw.
[pgn]
[Event "Moscow Candidates"]
[Site "Moscow RUS"]
[Date "2016.03.27"]
[Round "13"]
[White "Caruana, Fabiano"]
[Black "Svidler, Peter"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2757"]
[FEN "7r/1R6/8/k1BK4/8/8/8/8 b - - 71 102"]
[SetUp "1"]
[WhiteElo "2794"]
102...Ka4 $2 103.Kc4 Rh4+ 104.Bd4 Rh5 105.Bf2 $2 ( 105.Rb2 $1 Rh3 106.Bf2 Rf3 107.Bc5 Rf4+ 108.Bd4 Rf3 109.Rb4+ Ka3 110.Rb6 Ka2 111.Rb2+ Ka3 112.Re2 Ka4 ( 112...Rf4 113.Re1 { and black must sacrifice his rook to avoid mate in 1 } ) 113.Be3 Ka3 114.Bc5+ Ka4 115.Ra2+ Ra3 116.Rxa3# ) 105...Rg5 106.Rh7 Rg4+ 107.Bd4 Rg5 108.Rh8 Rb5 109.Ra8+ Ra5 110.Rb8 Rh5 111.Bf6 Ka5 112.Bc3+ Ka6 113.Bd4 Rh6 114.Be3 Re6 115.Rb3 Rc6+ 116.Kd5 1/2-1/2
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[pgn]
[Event "Moscow Candidates"]
[Site "Moscow RUS"]
[Date "2016.03.27"]
[Round "13"]
[White "Caruana, Fabiano"]
[Black "Svidler, Peter"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2757"]
[FEN "7r/1R6/8/k1BK4/8/8/8/8 b - - 71 102"]
[SetUp "1"]
[WhiteElo "2794"]
102...Ka4 $2 103.Kc4 Rh4+ 104.Bd4 Rh5 105.Bf2 $2 ( 105.Rb2 $1 Rh3 106.Bf2 Rf3 107.Bc5 Rf4+ 108.Bd4 Rf3 109.Rb4+ Ka3 110.Rb6 Ka2 111.Rb2+ Ka3 112.Re2 Ka4 ( 112...Rf4 113.Re1 { and black must sacrifice his rook to avoid mate in 1 } ) 113.Be3 Ka3 114.Bc5+ Ka4 115.Ra2+ Ra3 116.Rxa3# ) 105...Rg5 106.Rh7 Rg4+ 107.Bd4 Rg5 108.Rh8 Rb5 109.Ra8+ Ra5 110.Rb8 Rh5 111.Bf6 Ka5 112.Bc3+ Ka6 113.Bd4 Rh6 114.Be3 Re6 115.Rb3 Rc6+ 116.Kd5 1/2-1/2
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yurikvelo
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Re: Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
Please check ** line if black could avoid loss, or 22.Qb3! is win
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D=22, 1 011 MN, Komodo 9.3
+0,45 21. ... Nce7 22.Bb3 Bc6 23.Bc4 g5 24.Rb1 Ng6 (+0,47 @ D=27)
+0,61 21. ... Rb8 22.Qc2 Na7 23.Bd2 Bxa4 24.Qxa4 f5
+0,70 21. ... Bf8 22.Nh2 f5 23.Qb3 Be6 24.Bxc6 Nb4
+0,76 21. ... g5 22.Bb3 Be6 23.Qc2 Nce7 24.Bc4 Ng6
+0,78 21. ... Na7 22.c4 Nf4 23.Bxd7 Qxd7 24.d4 exd4
+0,84 21. ... Nb8 22.Qb3 Bxa4 23.Rxa4 Nf4 24.Bxf4 exf4 <----- Svidler (estimated +M88 **)
+0,84 21. ... Rc8 22.Bb3 Be6 23.Qc2 Nf4 24.Bxf4 exf4
+0,90 21. ... Kh8 22.Bb3 Bc8 23.Qd2 Bf5 24.Ba4 Bd7
+0,98 21. ... Kh7 22.Bd2 Na7 23.Nc5 Bc6 24.Nxa6 f5
+1,03 21. ... Re6 22.Qc2 Bc8 23.Bd2 g5 24.Bb3 Re7
+1,08 21. ... Rf8 22.Bd2 Be8 23.Nc5 Qd6 24.Nb7 Qe6
+1,12 21. ... f5 22.Nc5 Nxc3 23.Qb3+ Kh7 24.Bxh6 Nxa4
D=25, 3 002 MN
+0,78 22.Qb3 Bxa4 23.Rxa4 Nf4 24.Qc4 Nd7 25.d4 Ne6 (estimated mate in 88 **)
+0,73 22.Bb3 Be6 23.Ra3 g5 24.Nc5 Nxc3 25.Nxe6 Rxe6 <----- Caruana
+0,66 22.Bd2 Bxa4 23.Qxa4 Nd7 24.d4 Re6 25.Rab1 exd4
+0,57 22.h4 Nf6 23.Bb3 Bf5 24.Ba3 Nxe4 25.dxe4 Qxd1
+0,55 22.Qc2 Bxa4 23.Qxa4 Nd7 24.Qc6 Ne7 25.Qc4 Nf5
+0,51 22.Rb1 Kh7 23.Nfg5+ Kg8 24.c4 Nf4 25.Bxf4 exf4
+0,51 22.Ra2 Nc6 23.Qb3 Nce7 24.Qc4 Bxa4 25.Rxa4 g5
D=22, 834 MN
+0,70 23.Ra3 c6 24.Ba4 f5 25.Nc5 Qd6 26.Nxe6 Rxe6
+0,62 23.Nc5 Nxc3 24.Nxe6 Rxe6 25.Qc2 Nd5 26.d4 Nc6
+0,51 23.c4 Nb4 24.Ba4 Bd7 25.Re3 Bf8 26.Ba3 c5
+0,51 23.Rb1 Nd7 24.c4 Nf4 25.d4 Bf5 26.Bc2 Ne6
+0,49 23.Qd2 Nd7 24.d4 Nf4 25.Ba4 f5 26.Nxe5 Nxg2
+0,44 23.Ra2 Nc6 24.Qc2 f5 25.Nc5 Bf7 26.Bc4 Qd6
+0,36 23.Bc4 Nd7 24.Qa4 N5f6 25.Be3 Nxe4 26.dxe4 Nf6
+0,31 23.Qc2 Nd7 24.Bc4 c6 25.Ba3 Qxa5 26.h4 Bg4
+0,20 23.Bd2 Nd7 24.Qc2 Rb8 25.Bc4 f5 26.Ng3 c6 <----- Caruana
+0,17 23.d4 exd4 24.cxd4 Nc6 25.Bd2 Nxd4 26.Nxd4 Bxd4
+0,16 23.h4 Nd7 24.Qc2 Rb8 25.Bc4 f5 26.Ng3 Qf6
+0,15 23.Ba2 Nd7 24.d4 Rb8 25.Ba3 Nf4 26.d5 Bf5
+0,10 23.Ba3 Nd7 24.d4 Rb8 25.Ba4 Bf5 26.Bxd7 Qxd7
+0,07 23.Bc2 Nd7 24.Rb1 Rb8 25.c4 Rxb1 26.Bxb1 Nf4
**
22.Qb3 Bxa4 23.Rxa4 Nf4 24.Bxf4 exf4 25.Rc4 Nd7 26.Rc6 Ne5
27.Nxe5 Rxe5 28.d4 Re7 29.f3 Kh8 30.Rf1 Rb8 31.Qa2 Qe8
32.Qc4 Rb2 33.d5 Be5 34.Kh2 Kg7 35.Qxa6 Qb8 36.Qc4 Qb5
37.Rf2 Qxc4 38.Rxc4 Rb5 39.Ra2 Rxd5 40.a6 Rd8 41.a7 Ra8
42.Rc6 Kf8 43.h4 h5 44.Ra5 Bg7 45.Ra1 Be5 46.Nf2 Bg7
47.Ra3 Ke8 48.Nd3 Kd7 49.Rc4 Kc8 50.Kh3 Rd7 51.Nxf4 Bf8
52.Ra5 Rd1 53.g3 Bd6 54.Nd5 Rh1+ 55.Kg2 Rb1 56.Nf6 Rb2+
57.Kh3 Kb7 58.Rca4 c6 59.Rd4 Be7 60.Ng8 Rxg8 61.Rd7+ Ka8
62.Rxe7 f6 63.Rh7 Rb5 64.Ra4 Rb6 65.Rf7 c5 66.Rc7 g5
67.Rxc5 Rb7 68.Rb4 Rxa7 69.Rf5 gxh4 70.Kxh4 Ra1 71.Kh3 Ka7
72.c4 Rf8 73.Rb2 Rf7 74.Rxh5 f5 75.Kg2 Ka6 76.Rh6+ Ka7
77.Rhb6 Rc7 78.R6b5 f4 79.g4 Rxc4 80.R5b4 Ra4 81.Rxa4+ Rxa4
+M28 TB7 Lomonosov
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whereagles
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Re: Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
So neither Svidler nor Caruana had brain implants with 5-men TBs? Ridiculous for nowadays technology 
I remember a Kasparov-Polgar game RN vs R which Kasparov played to exhaustion and indeed Judith messed up and lost
I remember a Kasparov-Polgar game RN vs R which Kasparov played to exhaustion and indeed Judith messed up and lost
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Re: Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
64. c5 Kb7 65. Rg6 Bxa5
draw Lomonosov-7
=0.00 102. .. Rg8
=0.00 102. .. Ka6
=0.00 102. .. Re8
=0.00 102. .. Rc8
=0.00 102. .. Rh6
=0.00 102. .. Rh4
+M20 102. .. Ka4 <---- Svidler play
+M19 102. .. Rh2
+M17 102. .. Rh3
+M18 105.Rb2
+M19 105.Rb1
+M20 105.Bc5
+M20 105.Bb6
+M20 105.Bc3
+M20 105.Bf2 <---- Caruana play
+M20 105.Bg1
=0.00 105.Ba7
+M19 106.Bd4
+M21 106.Bg1
+M21 106.Be3
+M21 106.Bc5
+M21 106.Bb6
+M21 106.Rb2
+M21 106.Rb8
+M22 106.Rh7 <---- Caruana play
+M22 106.Ra7
=0.00 106.Ba7
+M22 106. .. Rb5
+M20 106. .. Rg4+ <---- Svidler play
+M11 106. .. Re5
+M07 106. .. Rd5
+M04 106. .. Rf5
+M04 106. .. Ka3
+M03 106. .. Ra5
+M03 106. .. Rh5
+M18 111.Rb2
+M19 111.Rb1
+M20 111.Be3
+M20 111.Bf2
+M20 111.Bg1
+M20 111.Bc5
+M20 111.Bb6
+M20 111.Bc3
=0.00 111.Bf6 <---- Caruana play
=0.00 111.Ba7
draw Lomonosov-7
Bf2 was not mistake, mistake was 111. Bf6??Simon Taylor wrote:105. Bf2?
=0.00 102. .. Rg8
=0.00 102. .. Ka6
=0.00 102. .. Re8
=0.00 102. .. Rc8
=0.00 102. .. Rh6
=0.00 102. .. Rh4
+M20 102. .. Ka4 <---- Svidler play
+M19 102. .. Rh2
+M17 102. .. Rh3
+M18 105.Rb2
+M19 105.Rb1
+M20 105.Bc5
+M20 105.Bb6
+M20 105.Bc3
+M20 105.Bf2 <---- Caruana play
+M20 105.Bg1
=0.00 105.Ba7
+M19 106.Bd4
+M21 106.Bg1
+M21 106.Be3
+M21 106.Bc5
+M21 106.Bb6
+M21 106.Rb2
+M21 106.Rb8
+M22 106.Rh7 <---- Caruana play
+M22 106.Ra7
=0.00 106.Ba7
+M22 106. .. Rb5
+M20 106. .. Rg4+ <---- Svidler play
+M11 106. .. Re5
+M07 106. .. Rd5
+M04 106. .. Rf5
+M04 106. .. Ka3
+M03 106. .. Ra5
+M03 106. .. Rh5
+M18 111.Rb2
+M19 111.Rb1
+M20 111.Be3
+M20 111.Bf2
+M20 111.Bg1
+M20 111.Bc5
+M20 111.Bb6
+M20 111.Bc3
=0.00 111.Bf6 <---- Caruana play
=0.00 111.Ba7
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simon
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Re: Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
105. Bf2 was a mistake because after that move there isn't enough time to force a capture or mate before the 50 move rule allows black to claim a draw. You can see the DTZ is too high from the Syzygy tablebase: https://syzygy-tables.info/?fen=8/1R6/8 ... _b_-_-_0_1yurikvelo wrote:Bf2 was not mistake, mistake was 111. Bf6??Simon Taylor wrote:105. Bf2?
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yurikvelo
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Re: Caruana - Svidler Rd 13
Sorry, I forgot to check 50-move rule.simon wrote:105. Bf2 was a mistake because after that move there isn't enough time to force a capture or mate before the 50 move rule allows black to claim a draw. You can see the DTZ is too high from the Syzygy tablebase: https://syzygy-tables.info/?fen=8/1R6/8 ... _b_-_-_0_1yurikvelo wrote:Bf2 was not mistake, mistake was 111. Bf6??Simon Taylor wrote:105. Bf2?