A Baker's Dozen.....

[MikeB]

...
Something still seems wrong. I guess you did not use -DHAS_RT when compiling texel, as I don't think OSX has support for posix realtime extensions. In that case texel uses the c++11 std::chrono library to measure time. Maybe that is not accurate enough on OSX to play at 10ms increment.

Correct , no -DHAS_RT .

We use this in crafty OS X , seems to work pretty well for all unix flavors.

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unsigned int ReadClock(void) {

  struct timeval timeval;
  struct timezone timezone;
  gettimeofday(&timeval, &timezone);
  return timeval.tv_sec * 100 + (timeval.tv_usec / 10000);
}

[MikeB]

Here's Texel pgn file

[MikeB]

I doubt you used the same time control. I used the insane time control of base 0.6 second and increment of 0.01 second.

I see. You initially wrote 0.1 sec inc so that's what I used. If I instead use 0.01s I get:

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Rank Name        Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Texel105     75    5    5  5053   69%   -75   17% 
   2 crafty250   -75    5    5  5053   31%    75   17% 

So +150 elo for texel in my test, compared to -827 elo in your test. There were 0 time losses in my test. Did you get any time losses?

Something still seems wrong. I guess you did not use -DHAS_RT when compiling texel, as I don't think OSX has support for posix realtime extensions. In that case texel uses the c++11 std::chrono library to measure time. Maybe that is not accurate enough on OSX to play at 10ms increment.

Stockfish uses std::chrono.

[petero2]

Here's Texel pgn file

Thanks. It shows that there are no time losses but also shows that texel makes many mistakes that on my computer would have been found in 1ms. Unfortunately there is no time or depth information in the pgn file so it is hard to tell what goes wrong.

One possibility is that texel's startup time is large on your computer. On my computer it is less than 10ms as seen by this bash command:

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time ./texel </dev/null

real    0m0.008s
user    0m0.006s
sys     0m0.003s

Can you please test this on your computer?

Another possibility is that texel's time measurement is not working correctly. If you start texel in a terminal window and type "go depth 10", what is the smallest non-zero reported time? Also if you start texel and type "go infinite", does the reported time increase at the correct speed? Note that time is reported in milliseconds in the UCI protocol.

For reference, on my computer "go depth 10" produced the following output:

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go depth 10
info depth 1
info depth 1 score cp 2 time 0 nodes 1 nps 0 pv b1a3
info depth 1 score cp 39 time 0 nodes 2 nps 0 pv b1c3
info depth 1 score cp 53 time 0 nodes 3 nps 0 pv g1f3
info depth 2
info depth 2 score cp 14 upperbound time 1 nodes 23 nps 23000 pv g1f3 b8c6
info depth 2 score cp 0 time 1 nodes 44 nps 44000 pv g1f3 g8f6
info depth 3
info depth 3 score cp 16 lowerbound time 1 nodes 111 nps 111000 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3
info depth 3 score cp 32 lowerbound time 1 nodes 135 nps 135000 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3
info depth 3 score cp 46 time 1 nodes 183 nps 183000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3
info depth 4
info depth 4 score cp 26 upperbound time 1 nodes 242 nps 242000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 b8c6
info depth 4 score cp 11 upperbound time 1 nodes 271 nps 271000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 b8c6
info depth 4 score cp 0 time 1 nodes 368 nps 368000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6
info depth 5
info depth 5 score cp 20 lowerbound time 2 nodes 631 nps 315500 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 5 score cp 35 lowerbound time 2 nodes 738 nps 369000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 5 score cp 35 time 2 nodes 848 nps 424000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 6
info depth 6 score cp 19 upperbound time 3 nodes 1008 nps 336000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 6 score cp 4 upperbound time 3 nodes 1083 nps 361000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 6 score cp 0 time 3 nodes 1293 nps 431000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 7
info depth 7 score cp 15 lowerbound time 6 nodes 3022 nps 503666 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6 c1e3
info depth 7 score cp 30 lowerbound time 6 nodes 3644 nps 607333 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6 c1e3
info depth 7 score cp 35 time 7 nodes 4485 nps 640714 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 c7c5 h2h3
info depth 8
info depth 8 score cp 18 upperbound time 8 nodes 5271 nps 658875 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 c7c5 h2h3 b8c6
info depth 8 score cp 9 time 10 nodes 6492 nps 649200 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 d2d4 b8c6 d4d5 c6b4
info depth 8 score cp 10 lowerbound time 12 nodes 8996 nps 749666 pv e2e4 b8c6 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 d7d6 f1c4
info depth 8 score cp 9 time 18 nodes 17335 nps 963055 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 d2d4 b8c6 d4d5 c6b4
info depth 9
info depth 9 score cp 6 time 35 nodes 49927 nps 1426485 pv g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c5 b1c3 b8c6 d2d3 d7d6 c3d5 c8e6
info depth 9 score cp 7 lowerbound time 37 nodes 52211 nps 1411108 pv e2e4 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 f1c4 a7a6 d2d3
info depth 9 score cp 20 time 41 nodes 60380 nps 1472682 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 g8f6 b1c3 f6d5 g1f3 d5f4 d2d4
info depth 10
info depth 10 score cp 18 time 54 nodes 88330 nps 1635740 pv e2e4 e7e5 b1c3 b8c6 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 d7d6 b2b3 f8e7
info depth 10 score cp 19 lowerbound time 63 nodes 108146 nps 1716603 pv d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 b8c6 g1f3 d7d5 c4d5 d8d5 b1c3
info depth 10 score cp 18 time 67 nodes 115751 nps 1727626 pv e2e4 e7e5 b1c3 b8c6 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 d7d6 b2b3 f8e7
info nodes 119223 nps 1727869 time 69
bestmove e2e4 ponder e7e5

[MikeB]

was looking at the makefile and realized I did not complied the fastest version - results for texel and texel64 are below.

[Mac-Pro:~/cluster.mfb] michaelbyrne% time ./texel < /dev/null
0.009u 0.002s 0:00.01 0.0% 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w
[Mac-Pro:~/cluster.mfb] michaelbyrne%
[Mac-Pro:~/cluster.mfb] michaelbyrne% time ./texel64 < /dev/null
0.007u 0.002s 0:00.01 0.0% 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w
[Mac-Pro:~/cluster.mfb] michaelbyrne%

[Mac-Pro:~/cluster.mfb] michaelbyrne% texel
go depth 10
info depth 1
info depth 1 score cp 2 time 1 nodes 1 nps 1000 pv b1a3
info depth 1 score cp 39 time 1 nodes 2 nps 2000 pv b1c3
info depth 1 score cp 53 time 1 nodes 3 nps 3000 pv g1f3
info depth 2
info depth 2 score cp 14 upperbound time 1 nodes 23 nps 23000 pv g1f3 b8c6
info depth 2 score cp 0 time 1 nodes 44 nps 44000 pv g1f3 g8f6
info depth 3
info depth 3 score cp 16 lowerbound time 1 nodes 111 nps 111000 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3
info depth 3 score cp 32 lowerbound time 1 nodes 135 nps 135000 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3
info depth 3 score cp 46 time 1 nodes 183 nps 183000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3
info depth 4
info depth 4 score cp 26 upperbound time 1 nodes 242 nps 242000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 b8c6
info depth 4 score cp 11 upperbound time 1 nodes 271 nps 271000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 b8c6
info depth 4 score cp 0 time 1 nodes 368 nps 368000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6
info depth 5
info depth 5 score cp 20 lowerbound time 1 nodes 631 nps 631000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 5 score cp 35 lowerbound time 1 nodes 738 nps 738000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 5 score cp 35 time 1 nodes 848 nps 848000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 6
info depth 6 score cp 19 upperbound time 2 nodes 1008 nps 504000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 6 score cp 4 upperbound time 2 nodes 1083 nps 541500 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 6 score cp 0 time 2 nodes 1293 nps 646500 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 7
info depth 7 score cp 15 lowerbound time 3 nodes 3022 nps 1007333 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6 c1e3
info depth 7 score cp 30 lowerbound time 4 nodes 3644 nps 911000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6 c1e3
info depth 7 score cp 35 time 4 nodes 4485 nps 1121250 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 c7c5 h2h3
info depth 8
info depth 8 score cp 18 upperbound time 5 nodes 5271 nps 1054200 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 c7c5 h2h3 b8c6
info depth 8 score cp 9 time 6 nodes 6492 nps 1082000 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 d2d4 b8c6 d4d5 c6b4
info depth 8 score cp 10 lowerbound time 8 nodes 8996 nps 1124500 pv e2e4 b8c6 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 d7d6 f1c4
info depth 8 score cp 9 time 15 nodes 17335 nps 1155666 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 d2d4 b8c6 d4d5 c6b4
info depth 9
info depth 9 score cp 6 time 43 nodes 49927 nps 1161093 pv g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c5 b1c3 b8c6 d2d3 d7d6 c3d5 c8e6
info depth 9 score cp 7 lowerbound time 45 nodes 52211 nps 1160244 pv e2e4 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 f1c4 a7a6 d2d3
info depth 9 score cp 20 time 52 nodes 60380 nps 1161153 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 g8f6 b1c3 f6d5 g1f3 d5f4 d2d4
info depth 10
info depth 10 score cp 18 time 74 nodes 88330 nps 1193648 pv e2e4 e7e5 b1c3 b8c6 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 d7d6 b2b3 f8e7
info depth 10 score cp 19 lowerbound time 94 nodes 108146 nps 1150489 pv d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 b8c6 g1f3 d7d5 c4d5 d8d5 b1c3
info depth 10 score cp 18 time 100 nodes 115751 nps 1157510 pv e2e4 e7e5 b1c3 b8c6 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 d7d6 b2b3 f8e7
info nodes 119223 nps 1157504 time 103
bestmove e2e4 ponder e7e5

[Mac-Pro:~/cluster.mfb] michaelbyrne% texel64
go depth 10
info depth 1
info depth 1 score cp 2 time 0 nodes 1 nps 0 pv b1a3
info depth 1 score cp 39 time 0 nodes 2 nps 0 pv b1c3
info depth 1 score cp 53 time 0 nodes 3 nps 0 pv g1f3
info depth 2
info depth 2 score cp 14 upperbound time 0 nodes 23 nps 0 pv g1f3 b8c6
info depth 2 score cp 0 time 0 nodes 44 nps 0 pv g1f3 g8f6
info depth 3
info depth 3 score cp 16 lowerbound time 0 nodes 111 nps 0 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3
info depth 3 score cp 32 lowerbound time 0 nodes 135 nps 0 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3
info depth 3 score cp 46 time 0 nodes 183 nps 0 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3
info depth 4
info depth 4 score cp 26 upperbound time 0 nodes 242 nps 0 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 b8c6
info depth 4 score cp 11 upperbound time 0 nodes 271 nps 0 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 b8c6
info depth 4 score cp 0 time 1 nodes 368 nps 368000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6
info depth 5
info depth 5 score cp 20 lowerbound time 1 nodes 631 nps 631000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 5 score cp 35 lowerbound time 1 nodes 738 nps 738000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 5 score cp 35 time 1 nodes 848 nps 848000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3
info depth 6
info depth 6 score cp 19 upperbound time 1 nodes 1008 nps 1008000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 6 score cp 4 upperbound time 1 nodes 1083 nps 1083000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 6 score cp 0 time 1 nodes 1293 nps 1293000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6
info depth 7
info depth 7 score cp 15 lowerbound time 3 nodes 3022 nps 1007333 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6 c1e3
info depth 7 score cp 30 lowerbound time 3 nodes 3644 nps 1214666 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 b8c6 c1e3
info depth 7 score cp 35 time 3 nodes 4485 nps 1495000 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 c7c5 h2h3
info depth 8
info depth 8 score cp 18 upperbound time 4 nodes 5271 nps 1317750 pv g1f3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 b1c3 c7c5 h2h3 b8c6
info depth 8 score cp 9 time 5 nodes 6492 nps 1298400 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 d2d4 b8c6 d4d5 c6b4
info depth 8 score cp 10 lowerbound time 7 nodes 8996 nps 1285142 pv e2e4 b8c6 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 d7d6 f1c4
info depth 8 score cp 9 time 13 nodes 17335 nps 1333461 pv g1f3 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 d2d4 b8c6 d4d5 c6b4
info depth 9
info depth 9 score cp 6 time 37 nodes 49927 nps 1349378 pv g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c5 b1c3 b8c6 d2d3 d7d6 c3d5 c8e6
info depth 9 score cp 7 lowerbound time 39 nodes 52211 nps 1338743 pv e2e4 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 f1c4 a7a6 d2d3
info depth 9 score cp 20 time 44 nodes 60380 nps 1372272 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 g8f6 b1c3 f6d5 g1f3 d5f4 d2d4
info depth 10
info depth 10 score cp 18 time 64 nodes 88330 nps 1380156 pv e2e4 e7e5 b1c3 b8c6 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 d7d6 b2b3 f8e7
info depth 10 score cp 19 lowerbound time 81 nodes 108146 nps 1335135 pv d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 b8c6 g1f3 d7d5 c4d5 d8d5 b1c3
info depth 10 score cp 18 time 87 nodes 115751 nps 1330471 pv e2e4 e7e5 b1c3 b8c6 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 d7d6 b2b3 f8e7
info nodes 119223 nps 1324700 time 90
bestmove e2e4 ponder e7e5

Will run a quick min match with -noGUI between texel64 and crafty under xboard, xboard collects search data - not sure if .6/.01 tc works under xboard will find out

[MikeB]

it looks like Texel is starting up much faster than crafty...

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[Mac-Pro:~/cluster.mfb] michaelbyrne% time crafty-25.1.syz < /dev/null
unable to open book file [./book.bin].
book is disabled
unable to open book file [./books.bin].
hash table memory = 256M bytes (16M entries).
pawn hash table memory = 48M bytes (2M entries).
ERROR "egtb" is unknown rc-file option
do not offer draws
decline draw offers
display nomoves (root moves as they are searched)
pondering disabled.

Crafty v25.1-syz

machine has 24 processors

White(1): 0.125u 0.279s 0:00.41 95.1%	0+0k 0+3io 0pf+0w

don't think that's the issue

[MikeB]

texel64 xboard pgn with search info

[petero2]

texel64 xboard pgn with search info

Thanks. There is no time information but from the depth information I would guess that texel uses its minimum thinking time of 1ms for most moves.

Since you mention xboard and xboard relies on polyglot to handle UCI engines, it is worth mentioning that polyglot needs a patch to handle sub-second increments. Without the patch UCI engines will think the increment is 0 if the real increment is less than one second.

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--- xboard2uci.c~	2016-02-28 15:58:49.000000000 +0100
+++ xboard2uci.c	2016-04-24 19:49:36.403789870 +0200
@@ -300,13 +300,13 @@
 
 			XB->mps  = atoi(Star[0]);
 			XB->base = ((double)atoi(Star[1])) * 60.0 + ((double)atoi(Star[2]));
-			XB->inc  = ((double)atoi(Star[3]));
+			XB->inc  = ((double)atof(Star[3]));
 
 		} else if (match(string,"level * * *")) {
 
 			XB->mps  = atoi(Star[0]);
 			XB->base = ((double)atoi(Star[1])) * 60.0;
-			XB->inc  = ((double)atoi(Star[2]));
+			XB->inc  = ((double)atof(Star[2]));
 
 		} else if (match(string,"name *")) {
 

[MikeB]

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double the time control to  tc 1.2 sec with .02 sec inc
04/24/16 : 13:00:03
Rank Name                Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Crafty-25.1-syz    3132   11   11   716   59%  3068   20% 
   2 Texel 1.05 64-bit  3068   11   11   716   41%  3132   20% 


double the time control again to  tc 2.4 sec with .04 sec inc
04/24/16 : 13:09:43
Rank Name                Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Texel 1.05 64-bit  3129   11   11   716   58%  3071   22% 
   2 Crafty-25.1-syz    3071   11   11   716   42%  3129   22% 

double the time control again to  tc 4.8. sec with .08 sec inc
04/24/16 : 13:25:24
Rank Name                Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Texel 1.05 64-bit  3137   11   11   716   60%  3063   24% 
   2 Crafty-25.1-syz    3063   11   11   716   40%  3137   24% 

just saw your last response - both engine programs I use relied upon polyglot, will apply the the patch and see what happens

[MikeB]

pk the updated polyglot helps all uci engines in general

did discovered that neither xboard or the match program can run matches fairly at time control 0.6 seconds since they both only go down to 1 sec base so here's a mini with 1 sec base and .01 second inc

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Rank Name                      Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Senpai 1.0               3459  120  120    44   88%  3067   11% 
   2 Stockfish 04.23.16       3397  107  107    44   83%  3073   20% 
   3 Komodo 9.42 64-bit       3275  103  103    44   69%  3084   16% 
   4 Crafty-25.0.1            3234  102  102    44   65%  3088   16% 
   5 Stockfish  160226 64bit  3223   98   98    44   64%  3089   23% 
   6 Arasan 18.3              3147   93   93    44   55%  3096   32% 
   7 Crafty-25.1-syzygy       3097   98   98    44   48%  3100   18% 
   8 Hakkapeliitta 3.22       3094  101  101    44   48%  3101    9% 
   9 Crafty-25.1              3078   97   97    44   45%  3102   23% 
  10 Texel 1.05 64-bit        2761  132  132    44   14%  3131    5% 
  11 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC      2734  139  139    44   13%  3133    2% 
  12 Deep Shredder 12 x64     2700  144  144    44   10%  3136    2%  

I would take a look at the Senpai code - it uses chrono, it is uci and it's cpp. It is apparently not impacted detrimentally at all by tc of 1 sec base and .01 increment

tc 1.8 sec base .03 sec inc

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04/24/16 : 17:49:23
Rank Name                      Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Stockfish 04.23.16       3351   88   88    44   82%  3077   23% 
   2 Senpai 1.0               3343   89   89    44   81%  3078   20% 
   3 Komodo 9.42 64-bit       3317   83   83    44   78%  3080   34% 
   4 Crafty-25.0.1            3143   78   78    44   57%  3096   27% 
   5 Deep Shredder 12 x64     3127   82   82    44   52%  3098   14% 
   6 Hakkapeliitta 3.22       3086   80   80    44   49%  3101   25% 
   7 Crafty-25.1-syzygy       3085   80   80    44   48%  3101   18% 
   8 Texel 1.05 64-bit        3065   80   80    44   45%  3103   23% 
   9 Arasan 18.3              3015   81   81    44   39%  3108   18% 
  10 Crafty-25.1              2986   79   79    44   33%  3110   30% 
  11 Stockfish  160226 64bit  2910   88   88    44   25%  3117   18% 
  12 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC      2771  104  104    44   11%  3130    9% 

tc 3.6 sec base .06 sec inc

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04/24/16 : 17:55:09
Rank Name                      Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Komodo 9.42 64-bit       3391  105  105    40   89%  3064   18% 
   2 Stockfish 04.23.16       3386  113  113    36   88%  3068   14% 
   3 Senpai 1.0               3257   86   86    42   74%  3071   24% 
   4 Texel 1.05 64-bit        3096   84   84    43   51%  3094   14% 
   5 Crafty-25.0.1            3077   82   82    44   47%  3102   20% 
   6 Hakkapeliitta 3.22       3065   80   80    43   47%  3097   28% 
   7 Stockfish  160226 64bit  3030   82   82    43   41%  3100   26% 
   8 Crafty-25.1              3024   80   80    43   41%  3100   30% 
   9 Arasan 18.3              3005   84   84    43   38%  3102   21% 
  10 Crafty-25.1-syzygy       2998   82   82    42   37%  3096   31% 
  11 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC      2985   87   87    43   36%  3104   12% 
  12 Deep Shredder 12 x64     2888   91   91    44   23%  3119   14% 

tc 7.2 sec base 1.2 sec inc

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Rank Name                      Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Stockfish 04.23.16       3340   84   84    44   83%  3078   25% 
   2 Komodo 9.42 64-bit       3328   82   82    44   83%  3079   30% 
   3 Hakkapeliitta 3.22       3154   79   79    44   57%  3095   14% 
   4 Senpai 1.0               3146   74   74    44   57%  3096   27% 
   5 Stockfish  160226 64bit  3137   75   75    44   56%  3097   25% 
   6 Texel 1.05 64-bit        3126   75   75    44   55%  3098   27% 
   7 Crafty-25.1-syzygy       3064   74   74    44   45%  3103   36% 
   8 Crafty-25.1              3020   74   74    44   39%  3107   32% 
   9 Crafty-25.0.1            2999   76   76    44   35%  3109   34% 
  10 Deep Shredder 12 x64     2987   77   77    44   34%  3110   27% 
  11 Deep HIARCS 14 WCSC      2950   78   78    44   28%  3114   30% 
  12 Arasan 18.3              2948   79   79    44   28%  3114   25%

running some tc 15sec base /.25 sec inc and 60/1 games next