lauriet wrote: Anyone ?.......
Anyone at all ? .............
Sure, but it's safe to conclude that a hashtable is very important. You didn't specify (or I didn't read right) just turning off transpositions or hash completely along with best moves. But here's Nemeton with hash off completely.
Makes far less of a difference in depth for Nemeton than it used to. I think that has to do with late move style reductions/pruning. Without hashmoves as expected it actually prunes way more and less accurately.
Opening position. No PV without hash because I pull the PV out of the hashtable.
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2 1 0 45 Nf3
3 1 0 99 Nf3
4 31 0 215 Nf3
5 1 0 401 Nf3
6 1 0 991 Nf3
7 15 0 6058 Nf3
8 9 2 8705 Nf3
9 11 5 22890 Nf3
10 6 11 79913 Nf3
11 6 28 227458 Nf3
12 10 81 697017 Nf3
13 5 158 1346361 Nf3
14 5 507 4334201 Nf3
14 7 708 6027230 Nc3
15 14 3220 27495732 Nc3
16 11 8867 75590678 Nc3
16 14 10173 86734009 Nf3
2 1 0 45 Nf3 Nf6
3 1 0 79 Nf3 Nf6
4 31 0 179 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3
5 1 0 353 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6
6 15 0 869 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 e3
7 1 0 2202 Nf3 Nc6 Nc3 Nf6 e3 d6
8 9 0 6192 Nf3 Nc6 Nc3 Nf6 e3 d6 h4
8 10 2 9634 d4 Nf6 Nf3 Nc6 Nc3 d5 Bd2
9 0 5 23738 d4 Nf6 Nf3 d6 Nc3 Nc6 e4 Bd7
9 10 5 27632 Nf3 Nc6 Nc3 Nf6 d3 d6 Bd2
10 6 11 71890 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 h4 d6 e3 Bd7 a4 h6
10 8 16 113556 d4 Nf6 Nf3 d5 Bf4 Bd7 Nc3 Nc6 h4
11 5 26 206478 d4 Nf6 Nf3 d5 Nc3 Nc6 Ne5 Nxe5 dxe5 Ng4 Nxd5
11 7 31 252000 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 e4 d6 d4 b6 Bd2 a5
12 7 59 484753 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 e3 h5 Be2 h4 O-O h3 g3
13 11 139 1162772 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 e3 e6 Be2 Be7 a4 O-O O-O Rb8
14 11 434 3653507 Nf3 Nf6 e3 g6 d4 Rg8 Nc3 d6 Bd2 Bd7
15 9 1404 11819535 Nf3 Nf6 d4 d5 g3 g6 Bg2 Bg7 Nc3 O-O O-O Nc6 Bf4 Bf5 a4
15 13 1760 14879325 e4 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 d4 e5 d5 Nd4 Ng1e2 c5 Nxd4 cxd4
16 13 2599 21979213 e4 Nf6 Nc3 e5 Nf3 Bb4 Nxe5 d6 Nf3 Bxc3 bxc3 Nxe4
Wac 141.
[d]4r1k1/p1qr1p2/2pb1Bp1/1p5p/3P1n1R/1B3P2/PP3PK1/2Q4R w - - 0 1
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2 -285 0 133 Kf1
3 -223 0 425 Kf1
4 -204 0 2694 Kf1
5 -243 0 4965 Kf1
6 -208 3 15588 Kf1
7 -224 5 24137 Kf1 <-->
7 -223 6 40240 Kf1 <++>
7 -279 9 65361 Kf1
8 -263 12 82907 Kf1 <++>
8 -208 20 142666 Kf1
9 -218 34 259219 Kf1
10 -202 90 693319 Kf1 <++>
10 -203 92 711093 Kf1 <-->
10 -196 186 1457053 Kf1
10 -180 195 1532568 Qxf4 <++>
10 -30 203 1597290 Qxf4 <++>
10 270 225 1758951 Qxf4 <++>
10 720 357 2812999 Qxf4 <++>
10 998 574 4547407 Qxf4
11 1014 649 5125321 Qxf4 <++>
11 1164 760 5988652 Qxf4 <++>
11 1464 889 7023647 Qxf4 <++>
11 1914 969 7663538 Qxf4 <++>
11 1913 1009 7998363 Qxf4 <-->
11 29988 1696 13693672 Qxf4
12 29988 1894 15378430 Qxf4
2 -285 0 133 Kf1 Re2
3 -223 0 462 Kf1 Ne2 Qh6
4 -204 0 1918 Kf1 Kh7 Rg1
5 -243 0 4242 Kf1 Re2 Qb1 Be7 Rxf4
6 -210 1 8724 Kf1 Kh7 Bc2 a6
7 -226 5 17828 Kf1 <-->
7 -265 5 23237 Kf1 Re2 Qb1 Bb4 Rxf4 Re1+ Qxe1 Bxe1
8 -249 8 36352 Kf1 <++>
8 -233 11 67665 Kf1 a5 a4 bxa4 Bxa4 Nd5
9 -217 20 136245 Kf1 <++>
9 -218 33 228327 Kf1 <-->
9 -202 42 302999 Kf1 b4 Bc4 Kh7 Rg4 Nd5 Bxd5
9 -186 47 335928 Qxf4 <++>
9 -36 51 377275 Qxf4 <++>
9 264 67 504157 Qxf4 <++>
9 292 70 530056 Qxf4 Bxf4 Rxh5 gxh5 Rxh5 Bh6 Rxh6 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4
10 308 79 598898 Qxf4 <++>
10 458 94 709282 Qxf4 <++>
10 758 118 910462 Qxf4 <++>
10 998 181 1404232 Qxf4 Be7 Rxh5 Bxf6 Qxf6 gxh5 Rxh5 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4
11 1014 211 1596870 Qxf4 <++>
11 1164 229 1754695 Qxf4 <++>
11 1464 303 2337228 Qxf4 <++>
11 1914 423 3306440 Qxf4 <++>
11 29988 572 4599498 Qxf4 Be7 Rxh5 Bxf6 Qxf6 gxh5 Rxh5 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4 Qxf7+ M6#
12 29988 613 4902985 Qxf4 Be7 Rxh5 Bxf6 Qxf6 gxh5 Rxh5 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4 Qxf7+ M6#
13 29988 663 5263475 Qxf4 Be7 Rxh5 Bxf6 Qxf6 gxh5 Rxh5 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4 Qxf7+ M6#
14 29988 732 5776546 Qxf4 Be7 Rxh5 Bxf6 Qxf6 gxh5 Rxh5 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4 Qxf7+ M6#
But then with the late move stuff disabled where the hashtable effect becomes much more apparent.
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2 1 0 45 Nf3
3 31 0 188 Nf3
4 1 0 446 Nf3
5 15 0 1564 Nf3
6 1 0 5410 Nf3
7 11 3 16925 Nf3
8 0 11 86309 Nf3
9 8 37 285102 Nf3
9 10 75 581243 Nc3
10 2 232 1859588 Nc3
11 18 806 6312285 Nc3 <++>
11 21 1276 9945450 Nc3
12 11 2957 23192496 Nc3
2 1 0 45 Nf3 Nf6
3 31 0 169 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3
4 1 0 394 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6
5 15 0 1389 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 e3
6 1 0 4934 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 e3 d6
7 11 3 12780 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 e4 d6 d4
8 0 10 61202 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Nc6 e4 d6 d4 Bd7
9 8 22 163103 Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 d5 d3 Nc6 Bd2 Bd7 a4
9 10 38 288601 Nc3 d5 d4 Nf6 Bf4 Bd7 Bg5 e6 Nf3
10 2 144 1127081 Nc3 Nf6 e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 d4 exd4 Nxd4 Nxd4 Qxd4
11 18 425 3325824 Nc3 <++>
11 21 512 4041036 Nc3 Nf6 e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 Nd4 O-O Nxb5 Nxb5
12 11 1074 8462303 Nc3 Nf6 e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 Bb4 Bxc6 dxc6 d3 Bd6
13 21 3081 24325593 Nc3 Nf6 e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bb5 Nd4 O-O Nxb5 Nxb5 Nxe4 Nxe5
Wac 141
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2 -285 0 133 Kf1
3 -223 0 1429 Kf1
4 -243 0 4759 Kf1
5 -208 6 37249 Kf1
6 -224 9 68978 Kf1 <-->
6 -233 17 129859 Kf1
7 -217 25 190274 Kf1 <++>
7 -213 39 302085 Kf1
8 -204 123 959676 Kf1
9 -188 232 1815276 Kf1 <++>
9 -189 234 1833447 Kf1 <-->
9 -105 574 4544739 Kf1
9 -89 593 4676769 Qxf4 <++>
9 61 621 4897827 Qxf4 <++>
9 292 668 5256686 Qxf4
10 308 969 7651966 Qxf4 <++>
10 458 1875 14563619 Qxf4 <++>
10 758 4467 34504661 Qxf4 <++>
10 1208 12473 97060150 Qxf4 <++>
10 1207 12483 97134462 Qxf4 <-->
10 1770 35056 281255351 Qxf4
11 1786 35372 283760003 Qxf4 <++>
11 1936 35700 286366125 Qxf4 <++>
11 2236 36071 289400946 Qxf4 <++>
11 2686 36422 292322602 Qxf4 <++>
11 29988 36826 295882003 Qxf4
12 29988 38021 306702921 Qxf4
13 29988 41708 342741627 Qxf4
2 -285 0 133 Kf1 Re2
3 -223 0 1021 Kf1 Ne2 Qh6
4 -243 0 3453 Kf1 Re2 Qb1 Be7 Rxf4
5 -208 5 28928 Kf1 Kh7 Qb1 Bf8 Kg1 Ne2+
6 -224 8 56865 Kf1 <-->
6 -233 11 77001 Kf1 a5 a4 bxa4 Bxa4 Nd5
7 -217 17 118216 Kf1 <++>
7 -213 22 153875 Kf1 a5 Qb1 Nd5 Bxd5 cxd5 Kg1
8 -204 56 427804 Kf1 a5 Rg1 Re2 Qb1 a4 Bxa4 bxa4 Rxf4
9 -188 110 834923 Kf1 <++>
9 -189 111 845296 Kf1 <-->
9 -105 295 2293560 Kf1 Qb8 Rg1 Kh7 Rg1g4 Re2 Rxf4 Bxf4 Rxf4
9 -89 312 2411167 Qxf4 <++>
9 61 350 2711264 Qxf4 <++>
9 292 420 3256610 Qxf4 Bxf4 Rxh5 gxh5 Rxh5 Bh6 Rxh6 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4
10 308 479 3705766 Qxf4 <++>
10 458 709 5492370 Qxf4 <++>
10 758 1108 8686564 Qxf4 <++>
10 1208 2014 16024197 Qxf4 <++>
10 1207 2016 16038834 Qxf4 <-->
10 29988 4445 36771878 Qxf4 Bxf4 Rxh5 gxh5 Rxh5 Bh6 Rxh6 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4 Rh8+ M6#
11 29988 4783 38820483 Qxf4 Bxf4 Rxh5 gxh5 Rxh5 Bh6 Rxh6 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4 Rh8+ M6#
12 29988 5184 41263304 Qxf4 Bxf4 Rxh5 gxh5 Rxh5 Bh6 Rxh6 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4 Rh8+ M6#
13 29988 5858 46041430 Qxf4 Bxf4 Rxh5 gxh5 Rxh5 Bh6 Rxh6 Qh2+ Rxh2 Rxd4 Rh8+ M6#