Rating close to fide elo

[Ferdy]

Time control not supported - default level used !!!

Strange, my UCI version of Mephisto Amsterdam seems to play with very few time losses games 60''+1'' and 120''+2'' with reasonable results. It improves by 60 ELO points against Texel 1.06 at 2000 nodes, with expected time used (average time use 1.5s and 2.9s per move in LittleBlitzer).

This command line option causes the troubles.

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-nommunlimited

With that option the program will play weaker.

It seems to be full strength, running at the clock speed of CPU. 2000 nodes of top engine equal to Mephisto Amsterdam at 60''+1'' at full clock is what to expect.

When the Mephisto is playing with full force, then the machine is put into analysis mode and the control time in this case is managed by messtiny, the program that manage the rom and that allows to use the xboard protocol. For this reason in this mode the machine can play any time control and does not lose in time.

But we want to make Mephisto play with the original frequency, since we try to make the engine play an ELO similar to the human or Fide ELO and in this case we have a good reference by fans that these machines in their battles against humans and with the original frequency they play about 2000 Fide Elo (Mephisto Amsterdam) and 2150 points (Mephisto Roma).

The problem is that at normal speed the Mephisto Amsterdan or messtiny only recognizes 7 time controls, almost only plays a number of seconds per play, but in reality the machine tries to do as a average, sometimes respond quickly, but at other times I think she think more than due and this makes the games never-endings and an uneven fight with the engine.

The Mephisto Rome is perhaps more flexible.

Thanks, now I got it. At 12MHz Mephisto Amsterdam will play roughly 2,000 ELO games at Classic time control, roughly 150s/move. At the same time, at full, say 3GHz strength, it will play 2000 ELO level at 150/250 = 0.6s per move. I use it in this sense as standard candle: full strength Mephisto Amsterdam at roughly 1s/move on modern core is about 2,000 FIDE Classic TC ELO.

This is a better solution than using
-nommunlimited
which is giving problems in the test.

[pedrox]

I am checking the conditions in which the Mephisto Roma32 played on my list. My list was produced with games of 2 minutes plus 2 seconds of increase, but with this time control the Roma32 lost in time and I had to use the control 5 minutes plus 5 seconds. In this control the Rome is configured in level LE32 that is Blitz of 5 minutes per game. Here there are no losses for time although the management that does the Mephisto Roma is not the best and does not use all the time. Perhaps with better management, his elo could raise something, perhaps as 60 points (if it doubles).

Now I'm testing with 5 + 3 and this time the time management of the Mephisto and the engine are similar. At the moment I have no losses for time, but maybe some game that exceeds 100 moves ...

I configured the engine with the elo 2210 human, I could see this short game

[pgn]
[Event "danasah64"]
[Site "DESKTOP-AMD"]
[Date "2017.01.07"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Mephisto Roma 32 Bit"]
[Black "DanaSah 6.4 LimitStrength"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[Annotator "8... +0.48"]
[Number "4"]

1. c4 Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. e3 Bb7 5. Bd3 d5 6. O-O Bd6 7. b3 O-O 8.
cxd5 {+0.00/1 7} Nxd5 {+0.48/7 8} 9. Bb2 {+0.00/1 8} Nc6 {+0.40/6 4} 10.
Qc2 {+0.00/1 4} f5 {+0.50/7 13} 11. a3 g5 {-0.23/6 7} 12. Nc3 {+1.24/1 11}
g4 {-0.16/8 6} 13. Nd2 Nxc3 {+0.37/9 9} 14. Qxc3 Qh4 {+0.27/7 4} 15. g3 Qh3
{+0.68/7 4} 16. e4 Rad8 {+0.62/6 5} 17. Rac1 {+0.00/1 7} Rf6 {+0.69/7 8}
18. Rfe1 {+0.92/1 11} Rh6 {+1.03/7 9} 19. Nf1 f4 {+0.70/7 3} 20. Qd2
{-0.64/1 16} f3 {+13.91/8 5} 21. Qg5+ Kf7 {+99.90/10 3} 22. Qf6+ Rxf6
{+99.92/12 3} 23. Ne3 {+0.00/1 6} Rh6 {+99.94/13 3} 24. Bc4 {+0.00/1 8}
Qxh2+ {+99.96/26 3} 25. Kf1 Qh1# {+99.98/100}
{Xboard adjudication: Checkmate} 0-1
[/pgn]

I also found this problem, occurs after promotion:

[pgn]
[Event "danasah64"]
[Site "DESKTOP-AMD"]
[Date "2017.01.07"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "DanaSah 6.4 LimitStrength"]
[Black "Mephisto Roma 32 Bit"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "300+3"]
[Annotator "9. +0.27"]
[Number "5"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Bd3 Ndf6 {+0.00/1 8} 6. Nxf6+
Nxf6 {+0.00/1 11} 7. Nf3 Bg4 8. c3 e6 {+0.00/1 4} 9. Bg5 {+0.27/7 8} h6
{-0.04/1 10} 10. Bxf6 {+0.45/7 4} Qxf6 {+0.00/1 5} 11. O-O {-0.30/8 5} Bxf3
{+0.00/1 5} 12. Qxf3 {-0.45/10 11} Qxf3 13. gxf3 {-0.07/9 8} Bd6 14. a3
{+0.27/7 7} O-O-O {+0.00/1 8} 15. b3 {-0.62/6 6} c5 {+0.84/1 11} 16. Rfe1
{-0.88/8 10} cxd4 17. cxd4 {-0.59/8 3} Kb8 18. b4 {-0.54/7 5} Be7
{+1.68/1 10} 19. Re4 {-0.66/7 4} Bf6 20. Rd1 {-0.63/7 4} Bxd4 21. Kg2
{-1.15/7 8} Bb2 22. a4 {-1.29/7 4} Rd7 23. b5 {-1.61/6 3} Rhd8 {+2.68/1 9}
24. Re3 {-2.03/8 6} Bd4 25. Ree1 {-2.37/8 8} Bxf2 26. Kxf2 {-2.67/10 7}
Rxd3 27. Rxd3 {-2.73/9 8} Rxd3 {+0.00/1 5} 28. Kg3 {-2.77/8 8} Kc7
{+2.68/1 9} 29. Rc1+ {-2.62/6 7} Kb6 30. Rc4 {-2.58/7 7} g5 {+0.00/1 6} 31.
a5+ {-2.43/8 3} Kxa5 {+0.00/1 6} 32. Rc7 {-2.66/10 4} f5 33. Kg2
{-4.06/7 2.6} Kb6 {+0.00/1 7} 34. Re7 {-4.09/8 2.5} Re3 {+0.00/1 5} 35. Kf2
{-4.01/8 5} Re5 {+0.00/1 6} 36. h3 {-3.96/9 4} h5 {+0.00/1 6} 37. Rg7
{-4.13/9 6} f4 {+0.00/1 6} 38. Re7 {-4.21/9 5} h4 39. Kg1 {-4.15/9 5} Rxb5
{+0.00/1 6} 40. Rxe6+ {-4.53/8 4} Kc7 41. Rg6 {-4.54/8 5} a6 42. Rg7+
{-4.27/7 5} Kb6 43. Rg6+ {-4.01/8 3} Ka5 44. Rg7 {-4.15/9 4} b6 {+0.00/1 5}
45. Kf1 {-4.15/7 5} Re5 {+0.00/1 5} 46. Rd7 {-4.80/8 4} Kb4 {+0.00/1 5} 47.
Rc7 {-4.41/7 2.2} b5 {+0.00/1 6} 48. Rd7 {-5.27/8 4} a5 49. Kf2 {-5.92/8 4}
a4 50. Ra7 {-6.09/9 2.7} a3 {+0.00/1 5} 51. Kf1 {-6.52/9 2.9} Kb3
{+6.36/1 11} 52. Ra5 {-7.33/8 1.6} a2 53. Kf2 {-14.04/10 4} Kb2 54. Ra6
{-17.30/12 3} a1=N 55. Ra7 {-6.25/7 3}
{Xboard: Forfeit due to invalid move: a1e1 (a1e1) res=35} 1-0
[/pgn]

I will review the games.

[pedrox]

When I was preparing the regulation of the engine, I caught the tournaments of the Aegon and I make the following list, unfortunately the pgn files showed the names of the players in many forms and the names of the computers had not put the version as well I did what I could. I took as reference for elo to GM Cifuentes.

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Rank Name                          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Seirawan, Yasser             2683  163  129    18   92%  2350    6% 
   2 Comp: Hiarcs                 2662  289  217     6   83%  2412    0% 
   3 Johan van Mil                2641  252  197     6   92%  2353   17% 
   4 Van der Wiel, John           2633  123  106    24   90%  2344   21% 
   5 Comp: Chess Genius X         2587  227  190     6   83%  2379   33% 
   6 CILKCHESS                    2583  198  184     6   67%  2471   33% 
   7 Comp: Hitech                 2570  263  213     6   83%  2334    0% 
   8 Comp: M-Chess Pro            2567  269  205     6   83%  2335    0% 
   9 Nunn, John                   2550  116  103    24   83%  2312   17% 
  10 Comp The King II             2549  229  191     6   83%  2323   33% 
  11 Vaganian, Rafael             2545  128  111    18   86%  2309   28% 
  12 NIMZO                        2542  171  153    11   73%  2373   18% 
  13 QUEST                        2542  203  184     6   75%  2375   50% 
  14 ZUGZWANG                     2539  192  180     6   67%  2435   33% 
  15 Kosashvili, Yona             2534  171  146    12   83%  2312   17% 
  16 Piket, Jeroen                2530  160  135    14   89%  2250   21% 
  17 Ye Rongguang                 2515  208  179     6   75%  2364   17% 
  18 Tasc R30                     2514  227  207     6   67%  2394    0% 
  19 REBEL AEGON                  2510  204  192     6   67%  2390   33% 
  20 Comp: Mephisto Pc-Bord A     2495  287  217     6   83%  2244    0% 
  21 REBEL                        2494  217  190     6   75%  2343   17% 
  22 Gideon 2.0                   2492  220  185     6   75%  2335   17% 
  23 KALLISTO                     2476  145  138    12   71%  2344   42% 
  24 Mephisto Berlin              2474  209  200     6   58%  2393   17% 
  25 Christiansen, Larry          2473   96   90    30   73%  2308   20% 
  26 Speelman, Jonathan           2471  146  131    12   75%  2311   33% 
  27 Lembitt Oll                  2469  209  180     6   75%  2329   17% 
  28 Rini Kuijf                   2469  233  220     6   67%  2321    0% 
  29 Hort, Vlastimil              2465  138  126    12   79%  2295   42% 
  30 Comp Mephisto 60 MHz         2465  196  187     6   58%  2426   17% 
  31 Comp: Quest                  2462  246  212     6   67%  2345    0% 
  32 Bronstein, David             2462   88   80    42   77%  2254    7% 
  33 Fritz 2                      2460  199  185     6   67%  2339   33% 
  34 Hoeksema, Erik               2457  116  111    18   67%  2326   33% 
  35 Quest                        2449  197  180     6   67%  2349   33% 
  36 Klaas Steyn                  2448  191  178     6   67%  2342   33% 
  37 Grooten, Herman              2446  124  115    18   69%  2307    6% 
  38 CHESSMASTER 5000             2444  217  197     6   75%  2283   50% 
  39 Ligterink, Gert              2443   87   82    36   72%  2291   22% 
  40 Karpov,An                    2440  295  262     2   75%  2341   50% 
  41 ZARKOV                       2430  146  137    12   67%  2316   33% 
  42 Gert Jan de Boer             2430  187  173     6   75%  2283   50% 
  43 Comp: Mephisto Genius 68030  2426  208  202     6   58%  2356   17% 
  44 Heiner Matthias              2426  189  181     6   58%  2381   17% 
  45 The King AEGON               2423  200  180     6   67%  2311   33% 
  46 Comp: Socrates               2422  267  200     6   83%  2179    0% 
  47 Cifuentes, Roberto           2420   80   76    42   69%  2285   14% 
  48 Friso Nijboer                2419  194  177     6   67%  2317   33% 
  49 Comp The King I              2419  222  198     6   67%  2306    0% 
  50 Gennadi Timoshchenco         2418  206  189     6   67%  2313    0% 
  51 Comp: Rebel                  2417  209  200     6   67%  2317   33% 
  52 Comp Drei Hirn               2416  204  192     6   67%  2321   33% 
  53 Kuyf,Ni                      2411  199  191     6   67%  2281   33% 
  54 NOW                          2409  154  148    12   58%  2343   17% 
  55 Zarkov 3.0                   2409  214  201     6   67%  2297   33% 
  56 THE KING                     2406  132  126    14   57%  2351   29% 
  57 GANDALF                      2405  224  194     6   67%  2302    0% 
  58 Hiarcs                       2393  200  185     6   67%  2284   33% 
  59 Joop Piket                   2391  201  188     6   67%  2276   33% 
  60 Comp: W-Chess                2382  233  192     6   83%  2148   33% 
  61 CHESSICA                     2382  152  146    12   63%  2291   25% 
  62 Comp: Mephisto Genius        2379  228  197     6   67%  2269    0% 
  63 Kuijf, Nico                  2377   96   91    30   70%  2237   20% 
  64 VIRTUAL CHESS                2373  151  149    12   54%  2332   25% 
  65 Comp Mephisto 68030          2373  122  118    18   56%  2344   22% 
  66 Polgar, Zsuzsa               2364  193  189     6   58%  2303   17% 
  67 Comp: Zugzwang               2361  206  187     6   67%  2258   33% 
  68 Comp: Virtua Chess           2360  250  225     6   67%  2229    0% 
  69 Comp MChess                  2354  157  144    12   67%  2247   17% 
  70 Comp: Zarkov                 2353  204  189     6   67%  2280   33% 
  71 Comp Genius                  2353  210  199     6   67%  2238   33% 
  72 Comp Rebel                   2350  204  189     6   58%  2288   17% 
  73 HIARCS                       2347  151  140    12   67%  2248   33% 
  74 Hitech                       2345  209  188     6   67%  2244   33% 
  75 Steinwender, Dieter          2344  143  138    12   58%  2287   17% 
  76 ISICHESS 2.6                 2342  198  195     6   50%  2339    0% 
  77 FERRET                       2341  186  187     6   50%  2335   33% 
  78 FRITZ                        2341  118  117    14   54%  2320   50% 
  79 TASC R30                     2340  154  146    12   63%  2258    8% 
  80 Tasc R40                     2334  202  194     6   58%  2267   17% 
  81 ARTHUR                       2332  149  141    12   58%  2267   17% 
  82 MCHESS PRO                   2332  162  154     8   63%  2239   25% 
  83 Timman,J                     2332  246  246     2   50%  2332  100% 
  84 Comp: Arthur                 2331  238  207     6   67%  2214    0% 
  85 Comp: Fritz 3                2330  224  200     6   67%  2220    0% 
  86 SAITEK SPARC/BRUTE FORCE     2329  206  201     6   50%  2334    0% 
  87 Ree, Hans                    2328  114  113    17   56%  2286   29% 
  88 REBEL 7                      2322  228  196     6   75%  2177   17% 
  89 Comp: Isichess               2319  204  207     6   50%  2317    0% 
  90 Comp Saitek Sparc            2319  226  203     6   75%  2153   17% 
  91 Polgar, Sofia                2318  113  111    18   56%  2275   44% 
  92 Comp: Hector 2               2317  190  180     6   58%  2277   17% 
  93 Wind,Michiel A               2315  115  110    18   67%  2213   33% 
  94 Ecume                        2314  193  191     6   50%  2310   33% 
  95 M CHESS PRO                  2314  192  186     6   58%  2276   17% 
  96 DREI HIRN                    2311  178  173     6   58%  2266   50% 
  97 Comp Gideon                  2311  204  236     6   33%  2425    0% 
  98 Comp Zugzwang                2310  142  137    12   58%  2252   33% 
  99 Van Voorthuijsen, Peewee     2300   98   97    24   54%  2275   25% 
 100 Sosonko,Gennadi              2298  187  177     6   67%  2219   33% 
 101 Pam/Wind,Max                 2295  196  190     6   58%  2225   17% 
 102 CAPTURE                      2294  151  142    12   67%  2190   17% 
 103 Comp: Kallisto               2294  230  203     6   67%  2180    0% 
 104 Comp Gideon 3                2291  176  174     6   50%  2286   67% 
 105 Comp: Chessmaster 4000       2291  188  186     6   50%  2286   33% 
 106 Comp Mephisto Vancouver      2288  199  204     6   42%  2329   17% 
 107 WCHESS                       2287  200  186     6   67%  2191   33% 
 108 Comp Hitech                  2286  112  115    18   47%  2311   39% 
 109 Comp Mephisto Risc           2286  144  141    12   54%  2247   25% 
 110 W CHESS                      2285  198  190     6   58%  2233   17% 
 111 Comp: Genius 2               2285  199  192     6   58%  2242   17% 
 112 Comp: Chessica               2285  194  178     6   67%  2194   33% 
 113 Van der Vliet, Fredrik       2282  150  138    13   69%  2130   15% 
 114 Ioseliani,Nana               2281  198  186     6   58%  2223   17% 
 115 Comp: Tasc R30               2281  215  211     6   58%  2209   17% 
 116 Comp: Schaakmeester 2.0      2279  208  202     6   58%  2242   17% 
 117 Comp: Nightmare N            2278  200  186     6   67%  2180   33% 
 118 De Boer,GJ                   2277  202  188     6   58%  2225   17% 
 119 Comp: Genius                 2276  145  140    12   58%  2217   33% 
 120 Comp Quest                   2270  118  118    18   50%  2269   33% 
 121 FRENCHESS                    2268  211  202     6   58%  2234   17% 
 122 COMET                        2266  139  139    12   46%  2305   42% 
 123 Comp Mephisto Lyon           2262  200  199     6   50%  2265    0% 
 124 Van der Berg, Ad             2260   73   71    48   59%  2193   19% 
 125 MEPHISTO ATLANTA             2258  194  196     6   50%  2258    0% 
 126 Comp Saitek Risc             2257  222  227     6   50%  2255    0% 
 127 Comp: The King               2256  186  179     6   58%  2196   50% 
 128 Comp: Junior                 2253  213  192     6   67%  2147    0% 
 129 Muenninghoff/Van der Laan    2252  177  172     6   58%  2219   50% 
 130 Gerrit Visser                2250  189  194     6   42%  2289   17% 
 131 DIEP                         2248  151  149    12   54%  2203   25% 
 132 ISICHESS                     2248  187  190     6   50%  2255   33% 
 133 Comp Socrates                2248  157  152    12   54%  2208    8% 
 134 ANT                          2248  142  141    12   50%  2254   33% 
 135 DARK THOUGHT                 2247  140  136    12   58%  2216   50% 
 136 RAJAH                        2247  206  197     6   58%  2204   17% 
 137 C.C.System X                 2245  189  192     6   50%  2261   33% 
 138 Comp The King                2245  143  148    12   46%  2275   25% 
 139 Jeroen Noomen                2245  185  183     5   50%  2241   60% 
 140 Greif                        2243  197  201     6   42%  2279   17% 
 141 MEPHISTO GENIUS              2243  138  135    12   58%  2195   33% 
 142 M-Chess Pro                  2241  207  210     6   50%  2247    0% 
 143 Comp: Now                    2239  185  192     6   50%  2256   33% 
 144 NIGHTMARE N                  2239  217  207     6   58%  2215   17% 
 145 Ludden, Gert Jan             2238  130  129    12   50%  2231   33% 
 146 Check Check                  2235  201  190     6   58%  2177   17% 
 147 Donaldson, John W            2235  189  188     6   50%  2241    0% 
 148 DRAGON                       2234  159  159    12   46%  2284    8% 
 149 Comp Gideon WK               2234  141  145    12   46%  2271   25% 
 150 SCHACH 3.0                   2232  144  144    12   54%  2219   25% 
 151 Nightmare                    2231  198  190     6   58%  2187   17% 
 152 Hartoch, Robert              2231  108  107    18   47%  2242   50% 
 153 TURNING POINT                2231  213  215     6   50%  2229    0% 
 154 Harmsen, Jessica             2230  116  117    18   44%  2266   11% 
 155 Comp: Mephisto Montreux      2230  220  201     6   58%  2192   17% 
 156 Mephisto Risc WK             2221  195  191     6   50%  2215   33% 
 157 Jongsma,Alexander            2220  118  112    18   58%  2169   17% 
 158 Comp: Capture                2219  228  220     6   50%  2230    0% 
 159 Wolthuis, Wim                2218   95   95    24   48%  2226   29% 
 160 TASC R40                     2217  220  211     6   50%  2223    0% 
 161 Comp Fidelity Avant G10      2216  194  226     6   33%  2325    0% 
 162 Boersma, Paulus              2215  110  110    18   53%  2204   28% 
 163 Comp: Camel                  2214  187  187     6   50%  2221   33% 
 164 Hoving/Oranje, Michael       2213  194  199     6   42%  2281   17% 
 165 Comp: Schach 3.0             2211  201  193     6   58%  2171   17% 
 166 De Greef, Heleen             2210  117  118    18   47%  2224    6% 
 167 Blokhuis, Jeroen             2209  105  107    18   44%  2240   33% 
 168 Wagenaar/Hoving              2204  192  187     6   58%  2165   17% 
 169 Comp Rexchess                2204  149  151    12   46%  2241   25% 
 170 Comp Mephisto Berlin         2204  224  242     6   50%  2183    0% 
 171 Comp Saitek Brute Force      2204  199  193     6   58%  2166   17% 
 172 Saitek Sparc                 2203  208  214     6   42%  2240   17% 
 173 Joker                        2201  202  188     6   67%  2112   33% 
 174 Comp Chess Player X          2201  193  226     6   25%  2361   17% 
 175 Van der Wal, Jannes          2200   99  102    24   44%  2237   13% 
 176 DOCTOR X                     2198  211  206     6   58%  2120   17% 
 177 MACCHESS AEGON'97            2193  196  207     6   42%  2259   17% 
 178 Tudjman, Velimir             2189  130  119    18   72%  2043   11% 
 179 Comp: Pandix                 2189  189  189     6   50%  2198   33% 
 180 Steijn,Klaas                 2188  176  178     6   42%  2218   50% 
 181 Peng Zhaoqin                 2187  136  138    12   46%  2225   42% 
 182 loeffler, Stefan             2186  142  147    12   42%  2243    0% 
 183 Comp Zarkov                  2186  140  144    12   42%  2244   33% 
 184 Comp: Mephisto Berlin 68020  2184  208  207     6   50%  2182    0% 
 185 Comp: Gandalf                2183  198  191     6   58%  2138   17% 
 186 Lindner, Jan Joost           2183  134  137    12   46%  2203   42% 
 187 Chessmaster 4000             2182  202  202     6   50%  2184    0% 
 188 Comp Fritz                   2181  137  138    12   46%  2210   42% 
 189 DIOGENES                     2178  178  183     6   42%  2226   50% 
 190 Comp MChess v32              2178  197  204     6   42%  2232   17% 
 191 Benschop, Anne Marie         2175  194  209     6   33%  2281    0% 
 192 Jongsma, Lex                 2174   94   93    30   50%  2180    0% 
 193 Perez Garcia, Herbert        2172   80   82    36   46%  2201   14% 
 194 Legemaat, Gert               2172  114  113    18   53%  2151   28% 
 195 L-Chess                      2169  206  205     6   50%  2163    0% 
 196 Comp Fidelity Elite          2166  184  193     6   33%  2265   67% 
 197 Mephisto Mega 4              2165  234  209     6   67%  2043    0% 
 198 MEPHISTO BERLIN PRO          2163  138  138    12   50%  2170   33% 
 199 Van der Pol, Wim             2161  146  153    12   42%  2212    0% 
 200 Dallas 32 bit                2158  200  186     6   67%  2067   33% 
 201 SAITEK BRUTE FORCE           2157  202  195     6   58%  2130   17% 
 202 Van den Berg, Jeroen         2156  173  178     6   42%  2198   50% 
 203 Frank de Hoog                2156  178  204     6   25%  2294   17% 
 204 CHEIRON                      2154  147  150    12   42%  2222   17% 
 205 Comp Novag Super Exp. B      2152  207  209     6   50%  2156    0% 
 206 Comp MChess 1.71X            2152  198  208     6   42%  2218   17% 
 207 Bakker, Piet                 2151   96   98    24   46%  2182   33% 
 208 Bierenbroodspot, Paul        2150  111  115    18   39%  2217   33% 
 209 SHREDDER                     2149  137  140    12   46%  2188   25% 
 210 Comp: Nightmare D            2149  203  206     6   50%  2174   33% 
 211 Saitek Brute Force           2147  196  207     6   42%  2215   17% 
 212 CENTAUR                      2142  151  155    12   42%  2206   17% 
 213 Comp Fidelity Avant G7       2142  206  207     6   50%  2140    0% 
 214 Van der Wijk, Wim            2141  113  118    18   39%  2206   22% 
 215 Fidelity Master B            2139  211  218     6   50%  2129    0% 
 216 Comp Check Check             2133  135  137    12   50%  2145   33% 
 217 Voortmeijer/Varsveld, Ed     2132  178  191     6   42%  2187   17% 
 218 Van Geet, Dirk Daniel        2132  111  116    18   36%  2214   28% 
 219 Comp Heuristic Alpha         2131  197  196     6   50%  2141   33% 
 220 Krabbe, Tim                  2131   89   90    30   45%  2163   17% 
 221 Comp Tasc R30                2130  199  231     6   25%  2297   17% 
 222 De Kleuver/Kok, Esther       2128  193  212     6   33%  2229    0% 
 223 Mephisto Rebel88             2128  199  192     6   58%  2088   17% 
 224 Stavast, Dick                2128  152  138    13   69%  1996    0% 
 225 Pam,Max                      2128  112  112    18   47%  2142   17% 
 226 Karstan, Erich               2122  177  181     6   42%  2184   50% 
 227 Loewenthal/Legemaat          2122  145  148    12   42%  2168   17% 
 228 Rebel                        2121  195  183     7   64%  2039   14% 
 229 CHESS SYSTEM TAL             2120  139  137    12   54%  2125   42% 
 230 Hoving,Mi                    2119  198  223     6   33%  2223    0% 
 231 Feist, Mathias               2116  134  139    12   38%  2175   42% 
 232 NIGHTMARE D                  2113  177  170     6   58%  2061   50% 
 233 HITECH                       2111  199  199     6   42%  2158   50% 
 234 Comp: L-Chess                2111  192  199     6   42%  2170   17% 
 235 Voorn/Oranje,Martin          2109  184  190     6   42%  2152   17% 
 236 Jeroen van der Berg          2103  187  186     6   50%  2103    0% 
 237 Voorn, Martin                2100   73   73    49   50%  2096   10% 
 238 Gandalf                      2099  192  202     6   42%  2155   17% 
 239 Saitek Risc 2500             2097  212  233     6   33%  2224    0% 
 240 Comp Fidelity Prestige       2096  202  220     6   42%  2144   17% 
 241 Novag Forte                  2094  187  178     6   58%  2032   50% 
 242 Comp Mephisto Polgar         2093  173  179     6   42%  2143   50% 
 243 Socrates exp.                2092  205  218     6   42%  2176   17% 
 244 Comp: Diogenes               2090  180  188     6   42%  2137   50% 
 245 Arnoldus, Henk               2089   82   85    30   35%  2176   43% 
 246 NOVAG DIAMOND                2081  140  141    12   46%  2119   25% 
 247 Hajenius,W                   2081  202  225     6   33%  2198    0% 
 248 HECTOR                       2081  152  151    12   46%  2136   25% 
 249 Loewenthal, Gunther          2077   74   73    43   52%  2069   21% 
 250 Comp: Saitek Brute Force     2076  183  188     6   42%  2137   50% 
 251 Goldbar                      2075  201  206     6   42%  2140   17% 
 252 Munninghoff, Alexander       2073  106  109    25   42%  2127    4% 
 253 Comp: Novag Sapphire         2073  182  195     6   33%  2161   33% 
 254 Comp Kallisto                2073  147  159    12   38%  2149    8% 
 255 Willem van der Pol           2067  221  194     6   75%  1920   17% 
 256 Comp Fidelity Avant G9       2065  183  213     6   25%  2203   17% 
 257 Isichess                     2063  216  236     6   33%  2193    0% 
 258 NIGHTMARE                    2062  208  232     5   30%  2188   20% 
 259 Maliangkay/Oranje            2059  189  215     6   33%  2161    0% 
 260 Avant Garde                  2054  198  186     7   57%  2004    0% 
 261 Pandix                       2054  195  205     6   42%  2113   17% 
 262 Comp Novag Scorpio           2053  213  246     6   33%  2173    0% 
 263 Schach 3.0                   2052  190  201     6   42%  2119   17% 
 264 Comp Zarkov 2                2050  207  233     6   33%  2174    0% 
 265 Comp Zarkov 3                2049  197  224     6   33%  2160    0% 
 266 MEPHISTO MILANO PRO          2049  203  216     6   42%  2131   17% 
 267 Hoogendoorn, Fre             2048  110  119    18   31%  2164   17% 
 268 Dallas 16 bit                2045  245  218     6   75%  1885   17% 
 269 Comp: Check Check            2044  197  219     6   25%  2224   17% 
 270 Rudy Bloemhard               2043  182  216     6   25%  2181   17% 
 271 Mephisto Roma                2033  201  205     6   42%  2106   17% 
 272 De Waard, Jos                2033  102  107    24   38%  2116   17% 
 273 Bouwman,CV                   2033  190  214     6   25%  2198   17% 
 274 Mephisto AEGON               2032  199  181     7   64%  1936   14% 
 275 Voortmeyer, Ed               2031   88   87    31   52%  2019   26% 
 276 ZZZZZZ                       2031  186  197     6   42%  2088   17% 
 277 Vreeken                      2031  178  182     6   50%  2039   33% 
 278 MIRAGE                       2030  129  135    12   38%  2129   58% 
 279 Now                          2027  175  180     6   42%  2069   50% 
 280 DAPPET                       2025  203  231     6   33%  2141    0% 
 281 Kieboom, Bert                2025   71   73    42   42%  2083   31% 
 282 Comp Ananse                  2025  201  204     6   42%  2085   17% 
 283 Comp Now                     2023  197  198     6   50%  2020    0% 
 284 Comp: Saitek GK 2100         2021  195  218     6   25%  2207   17% 
 285 Voortmeijer/Slingerland      2015  176  180     6   42%  2046   50% 
 286 Pam/Maes                     2013  169  187     6   25%  2140   50% 
 287 Par Excellence               2013  205  205     6   50%  2011    0% 
 288 Comp: Chess System Tal       2011  185  210     6   33%  2123   33% 
 289 Comp: Saitek President       2010  191  218     6   33%  2124    0% 
 290 PANDIX                       2008  177  182     6   33%  2150   67% 
 291 Mephisto Amsterdam           2007  189  188     7   57%  1946   29% 
 292 Vromans, Nico                2005   95  101    24   27%  2158   38% 
 293 Psion                        2000  151  147    13   54%  1957   15% 
 294 NOVAG SAPPHIRE               1999  198  216     6   25%  2174   17% 
 295 Comp Dappet                  1995  144  159    12   33%  2117    0% 
 296 BREAK THROUGH II             1992  198  204     6   42%  2036   17% 
 297 Parson,H.                    1988  181  210     6   25%  2127   17% 
 298 XXXX II                      1983  212  264     6   17%  2227    0% 
 299 De Kleijnen, Henk            1981   88   93    30   27%  2144   40% 
 300 Alexander Kure               1977  189  215     6   25%  2146   17% 
 301 Verbaan, Bart                1976  112  110    19   55%  1930   26% 
 302 Comp Cumulus                 1975  193  206     6   42%  2037   17% 
 303 Comp: Frenchess              1974  184  196     6   33%  2084   33% 
 304 Comp Nimzo                   1973  151  165    12   29%  2149    8% 
 305 Comp L-Chess                 1973  143  157    12   29%  2137   25% 
 306 Fidelity Master A            1970  193  200     6   42%  2035   17% 
 307 Oranje,Ri                    1967  179  215     6   17%  2177   33% 
 308 Bakker/Wolthuis              1967  168  175     6   42%  2014   50% 
 309 Comp: Dappet                 1967  187  204     6   33%  2075   33% 
 310 MM IV                        1966  191  191     6   50%  1949   33% 
 311 Comp Schach                  1966  208  223     6   42%  2040   17% 
 312 Erik Fraikin                 1963  190  183     6   58%  1910   17% 
 313 Van Wermeskerken, Peter      1958  115  129    18   17%  2160   33% 
 314 Sylvia de Vries              1955  188  210     6   33%  2052    0% 
 315 Fidelity Master C            1951  199  216     6   42%  2001   17% 
 316 Comp Hiarcs                  1949  194  223     6   33%  2057    0% 
 317 Nimzo-Guernica               1948  183  198     6   33%  2044   33% 
 318 IMPAKT                       1947  182  203     6   33%  2063   33% 
 319 SCHAAKMEESTER X              1947  205  229     6   33%  2075    0% 
 320 Kallisto                     1944  171  175    12   46%  2007    8% 
 321 Maliangkay, Henny            1943   95  101    30   28%  2109    3% 
 322 De Vries/Slingerland         1938  177  189     6   33%  2029   33% 
 323 Novag Super Forte            1937  191  195     6   50%  1927   33% 
 324 Muenninghoff, Alexander      1936  198  216     6   33%  2043    0% 
 325 CXG Sfinx                    1934  211  213     6   50%  1932    0% 
 326 Comp Novag Super Exp. C      1933  186  221     6   25%  2094   17% 
 327 Mirage                       1933  198  221     6   33%  2042    0% 
 328 Geertsema, Piet              1932  131  145    12   25%  2089   33% 
 329 Prestige                     1930  193  185     7   57%  1885    0% 
 330 Loewenthal/Wiarda            1925  195  259     6   17%  2142    0% 
 331 Milobarus                    1922  183  201     6   25%  2076   50% 
 332 The King                     1921  234  242     6   50%  1932    0% 
 333 Novag Forte B                1919  196  225     6   33%  2029    0% 
 334 Comp: Centaur                1917  204  212     6   33%  2003   33% 
 335 Granit                       1917  188  187     7   50%  1909   14% 
 336 Ananse                       1916  194  225     6   33%  2024    0% 
 337 Comp: Mirage                 1911  180  201     6   25%  2072   50% 
 338 GOLDBAR                      1910  144  163    12   21%  2126   25% 
 339 Goudart,Ri                   1907  190  221     6   17%  2122   33% 
 340 Nona                         1906  205  195     7   50%  1930   14% 
 341 Comp Goldbar                 1904  192  227     6   25%  2072   17% 
 342 Comp Novag Super Forte       1902  179  215     6   17%  2093   33% 
 343 Private Line                 1902  208  216     6   50%  1909    0% 
 344 Dappet                       1899  199  236     6   17%  2113   33% 
 345 Comp Novag Diablo            1884  199  234     6   25%  2045   17% 
 346 Avant Garde 2100             1877  207  207     6   50%  1883    0% 
 347 Fuerstenberg, Tom            1871  129  147    12   21%  2044   25% 
 348 Leonardo 4 Mhz               1868  210  216     6   50%  1866    0% 
 349 Avant Garde Fide             1865  198  209     6   42%  1920   17% 
 350 Nagel, J.                    1862  130  133    13   46%  1897   31% 
 351 BIONIC                       1861  145  160    12   21%  2069   25% 
 352 SciSys Leonardo              1854  179  193     7   36%  1956   14% 
 353 Van der Giessen, Ada Leona   1833   78   82    43   31%  1972   12% 
 354 Super Mondial                1831  195  191     6   50%  1822   33% 
 355 Parson/Rebattu               1829  198  237     6   17%  2057    0% 
 356 Timmer, Jos                  1826  138  157    12   13%  2081   25% 
 357 ANANSE                       1824  188  219     6   17%  2063   33% 
 358 Sun Phoenix                  1824  186  204     6   33%  1915   33% 
 359 Comp Echec                   1818  198  264     6    8%  2117   17% 
 360 Comp: Bionic                 1815  201  266     6   17%  2048    0% 
 361 Kemme, Harry                 1797  130  135    12   38%  1875   25% 
 362 CXG Quest                    1795  221  217     6   50%  1816    0% 
 363 C. Fiore                     1781  184  208     7   29%  1923    0% 
 364 Saitek                       1761  203  234     6   25%  1950   17% 
 365 Prins,H                      1729  182  238     6    8%  1977   17% 
 366 Mephisto MM II               1715  178  214     7   21%  1899   14% 
 367 Leonardo 6 MHz               1696  195  238     6   17%  1941   33% 
 368 Comp: Ananse                 1691  212  365     6    0%  2080    0% 
 369 Novag Super Expert           1686  183  202     6   33%  1794   33% 
 370 Ziggy                        1607  119  134    19   24%  1811   16% 
 371 Lutz, Pieter                 1585  112  129    19   16%  1810   21% 
 372 Rob Clerc                    1561  186  243     6    8%  1818   17% 
 373 Dolman                       1517  209  317     6    0%  1853    0% 
 374 Jules Rooyaards              1508  206  315     6    0%  1838    0%

[pedrox]

I have tried to play against the Mephisto Roma32 with a elo 2146 (aktiv + 70) and in human mode, the time control is 5 minutes plus 3 seconds increment.

The result seems even (25-25). I had to correct the result of 6 games, in 3 of them occurred the problem of promotion to Kgnith and in other 3 had lost on time.

I used DanaSah 6.4 LimitStrength, as its name indicates the version that allows limiting force, is very similar to danaz, but I now have the 2 versions, limited and no, in the same source code. The engine is now also uci (I did the test with the winboard version, although it should be the same result with uci), if uci is used, I recommend restarting the engine before playing since it depends on the GUI whether it is updated or not instantly.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/75d21assy ... aSah64.zip

Do not use DanaSah 6.4 LimitStrength for rating lists.

[Ferdy]

I have tried to play against the Mephisto Roma32 with a elo 2146 (aktiv + 70) and in human mode, the time control is 5 minutes plus 3 seconds increment.

The result seems even (25-25). I had to correct the result of 6 games, in 3 of them occurred the problem of promotion to Kgnith and in other 3 had lost on time.

I used DanaSah 6.4 LimitStrength, as its name indicates the version that allows limiting force, is very similar to danaz, but I now have the 2 versions, limited and no, in the same source code. The engine is now also uci (I did the test with the winboard version, although it should be the same result with uci), if uci is used, I recommend restarting the engine before playing since it depends on the GUI whether it is updated or not instantly.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/75d21assy ... aSah64.zip

Do not use DanaSah 6.4 LimitStrength for rating lists.

I give up testing Mephisto with option -nommunlimited.

I will try your uploaded DanaSah64.zip.

[pedrox]

I have now tested the 30+5 time control and the result is 13.5-13.5. It seems that I have well regulated against the Mephisto Roma32 in times control of 5+3 and 30+5.

I recommend using Mephisto Roma32 instead of Amsterdam, with 5+3 time control she played at level LE32 (5 minute blitz per game) and the time used by the engine and machine were similar, with time control 30+5 the machine used level LE37 (Blitz 30 minutes per game).

However if I try to play games of 2,3 or 4 minutes the machine sets the LE02 default level, so I have not been able to play below those 5 minutes per game.

The Mephisto Amsterdam does not recognize those levels recognized by Roma32, so if it is not one of the 7 levels it will play the default level LE02.