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[velmarin]

So which legit engine has IDENTICAL output to Synapze?

In console mode type perft 5

The order in which it comes out on the console is the Stockfish code.
Try any other engine that supports the perft command.

[BrendanJNorman]

So which legit engine has IDENTICAL output to Synapze?

In console mode type perft 5

The order in which it comes out on the console is the Stockfish code.
Try any other engine that supports the perft command.

Oh wow, that's interesting.

Thanks for sharing that command.

What does the perf command mean/do?

Is it just like a digital "fingerprint" or something?

[tmokonen]

Perft is a count of legal moves at the specified depth (leaf nodes). It's quite handy for debugging a move generator.

[velmarin]

Each engine presents its output as written in its code. If it supports it.
Sypnase 4 could not stand it.

Wasp for example, introduces this:

[BrendanJNorman]

Perft is a count of legal moves at the specified depth (leaf nodes). It's quite handy for debugging a move generator.

That's interesting, but I don't get it.

Why couldn't different engines give the same result?

[Leto]

I notice you take things very personally, internet must be very stressful for you. So you want direct quotes where you trash Houdini? That's easy, it's in your very first post in this thread:

"- Houdini 1.0 was more or less proven to be a clone of Robbolito (even Richard Vida and Lance Perkins directly told Houdart to stop lying about it) "

That's a big lie. Houdini 1.0 was clearly stronger than Robbolito, therefore it was not a clone. As for Richard Vida he ran away when Houdart threatened to sue him for cloning Houdini.


"*Houdart has never admitted to cloning Robo, yet you guys worship Houdini (yes I know that it's very unique now, but would I be "immoral" If I preferred version 1.0?) "

Houdini isn't a clone, I doubt you actually know what a "clone" is. And there you go you claim to like Houdini 5 and yet a few moments later you claim to like Houdini 1 better which doesn't even make sense considering you are wrongly claiming Houdini 1 is a clone.

I don't believe at all that you purchased Houdini 5 twice. What's the email address you used to make your purchases?

The time to be polite has come and gone, I'm going to deal with this young lady however I see fit, yet I'll address the bolded parts only.

1. Yes. I take insults personally. Yes. I am the same in person as I am online. Thats why until I am insulted to the extreme, I am without exception polite to others online. I always assume we are face to face. This contrasts from you weasels and rats who hide your face, and throw insults remorselessly, yet in person (as I have witnessed on numerous occasions), this same internet Lion becomes a soft-spoken Mouse uttering the same old "you know it was all fun and games, right?" excuse. You lady-boys should form a team and be cheerleaders for the coward squad. Doesn't this site have a real name policy? Why haven't you been banned?

2. I think you need to check the definition of "trash". I hardly think saying that Houdini was allegedly a clone of Robbolito is trashing the engine - Robolitto seems like a fantastic engine. If I'd said Houdini was a clone of Ziggurat maybe that'd be trashing it. Besides, it wasn't me who said it. It was programmers with a lot more authority than both of us (assuming you're just the no-name loser I assume you to be, and not a sock-puppet account of some known person.)

3. So what are you saying? Houdart (hmm are you Houdart's sock puppet account?) thinks Critter is a clone of Houdini? This is getting ridiculous.

4. Maybe I don't know what a clone is, so why attack me for testing Synapze? Oh that's right...you and your online boyfriends are cowardly bullies.

5. While you're looking up "trash" in the dictionary (or looking in the mirror, which would achieve the same), look up the word "if" too. I believe I said "if I preferred Houdini 1.0". Adding the word "if" makes it a hypothetical scenario and thus, not based on reality - therefore, it's not an affirmative statement....i.e I DID NOT SAY I PREFER Houdini 1.0. Clear, Einstein?

6. Unless you are indeed Houdart's sock puppet account, what use would you have for my paypal email address? And why would I post it on a public forum? There are two possibilities here - I'll address both.

a) You are a lovestruck groupie, either very interested in Houdart, Houdini or "Who knows what else?" and/or very close to the Houdini camp, yet bravely hide so you can safely take pot shots from the darkness.

b) You ARE Houdart (which I'm starting to suspect now) but again, bravely hide behind a sock-puppet account.

I'm starting to get the image in my mind of a bunch of middle-aged, divorced, grumpy, embittered excuses for men, cursing the world from the depths of their mother's basement as they play with their computers endlessly.

Thankfully not all of the computer chess guys are like you.

P.S Next time mind your own business, poindexter.

Just as I expected, you pretended to be willing to prove that you purchased Houdini 5 twice but when asked to provide proof to back up your claim you run away from it.

[BrendanJNorman]

Just as I expected, you pretended to be willing to prove that you purchased Houdini 5 twice but when asked to provide proof to back up your claim you run away from it.

Such a genius at predicting stuff...

Robert, the way you treat your customers is really shameful, I must say.

Oh...you might find this enlightening:

http://chessncognac.com/wp-content/uplo ... ss-rat.png

One is Houdini 5 (as stated)

One is Houdini 5 CB (as stated)

One is Hiarcs 13 (as stated)

Am I the only honest person here? Don't worry, next time I'll get em from Mohommed's site.

[tmokonen]

I think he is referring to the order in which the perft function displays the moves (a2a3 first, then b2b3 etc.), and the similarity of the output display in wording and layout.

[Scacchista1977]

Each engine presents its output as written in its code. If it supports it.
Sypnase 4 could not stand it.

Wasp for example, introduces this:

hi velmarin, I tried to enter the classical command: "bench" and "d", present in Stockfish code but nothing happens, why in your opinion?

[velmarin]

hi velmarin, I tried to enter the classical command: "bench" and "d", present in Stockfish code but nothing happens, why in your opinion?

It looks like copy of AsmFish,
Also no has "eval" command
It is possible that how all these copies try to "leave no trace".
But something is always neglected, in this case the command "perft" that gives exactly the expected output of an engine based on Stockfish.