If you give an opening book to stockfish of at least 10 moves and an EGT TB of 7men stockfish is unbeatabl. TCEC took away the Opening book and LCZero domitaed stockfish, Now we need to give both a decent opening book of only 5 moves to both and take away the EGT TB to see who is the strongest without TB help.
https://tcec.chessdom.com/
PS: anybody of you can test this with at least 100 fast games of TC 5+ 3sec
We know who is the strongest in the opening, Middle, but we need to know who is the strongest endgame player?
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Re: We know who is the strongest in the opening, Middle, but we need to know who is the strongest endgame player?
If the rating sites always tested and determined the ratings without opening books. Would the current Stockfish play better without opening books?Chessqueen wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:29 am If you give an opening book to stockfish of at least 10 moves and an EGT TB of 7men stockfish is unbeatabl. TCEC took away the Opening book and LCZero domitaed stockfish, Now we need to give both a decent opening book of only 5 moves to both and take away the EGT TB to see who is the strongest without TB help.
https://tcec.chessdom.com/
PS: anybody of you can test this with at least 100 fast games of TC 5+ 3sec
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Re: We know who is the strongest in the opening, Middle, but we need to know who is the strongest endgame player?
It would be hard to Know without actually testing Komodo and Houdini 6.0 64 Bit against Stockfish. I would NOT just conclude that because Stockfish is the #1 Chess960 rated program, that it will also be the best in normal or standard chess position without Opening books.mwyoung wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:09 amIf the rating sites always tested and determined the ratings without opening books. Would the current Stockfish play better without opening books?Chessqueen wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:29 am If you give an opening book to stockfish of at least 10 moves and an EGT TB of 7men stockfish is unbeatabl. TCEC took away the Opening book and LCZero domitaed stockfish, Now we need to give both a decent opening book of only 5 moves to both and take away the EGT TB to see who is the strongest without TB help.
https://tcec.chessdom.com/
PS: anybody of you can test this with at least 100 fast games of TC 5+ 3sec
You could be the first one to test them out in short 5 min + 3 sec TC and let us know, even in a very short match of 100 games, just to get an idea.