+1 Yes, and he beat me to it. I had the same joke in mind.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:03 amNice to see some humor on this, at times, dull forum.
Fruit and derivatives list !
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Re: Fruit and derivatives list!
Hello Daniel:
I think that the EXE is 32-bit. A double click on the EXE outputs:
Regards from Spain.
Ajedrecista.
I have got Cyclone xTremeII (EXE + SRC), which you do not mention in your post (you mention xTreme, and the readme of this xTremeII mentions xTreme among others in based-on-engines):De Noose Daniel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:36 pm Hi,
I'm trying to sort all the engines I have in all my computers and hard drives … I'm very very messy !
First I try to sort all engines from the "FRUIT family".
Here are the versions I have. But some are missing, some don't have the "sources", …
I want to complete my list as possible. If you can help it should be very nice.
If anyone is interested with some of these, just ask and I'll send it to him.
Cyclone :
EXE + SRC :
1.0,
2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3,
3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4,
4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4,
Xtreme, Xtreme Fear, Xtreme Fury, Xtreme Rage, Xtreme Wrath.
Cyclops :
EXE + SRC :
1.0, 2.0
Fruit :
EXE + SRC :
1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 2.1
EXE (no src) :
2.2, 2.2.1, 2.3 Beta, 2.3, 2.3 EMT64, 2.3.1, 2.3.3f, 3.0,
051103, 061115, 061017, 061201, 061218, 070110, 070126, 070327,
Fruit II
Fruit Reloaded :
EXE + SRC :
2.1, 3.2.1
FruitFly :
EXE + SRC :
1.0
Gambit Fruit :
EXE + SRC :
beta 1.0, beta 1.1a, beta 2, beta 3, beta 4b, beta 4bx, beta 4bx SE, 1.0
GrapeFruit :
EXE + SRC :
1.0 alpha 1, 1.0 alpha 2, 1.0 alpha 3, 1.0 beta, 1.0
EXE (no src) :
1.0 ap
NeuroGrape :
EXE + SRC :
1.1
The Mad Prune :
EXE + SRC :
1.1.25, 1.6.15, 1.7.04
SRC (no exe) :
1.1.12, 1.1.21, 1.6.51
Cluster Toga :
EXE + SRC :
1.4 beta 5c
DeepLearninToga :
EXE + SRC :
1.5.12, 1.5.42, 1.6.03, 1.9.06, 1.9.23, 1.9.25, 2.0.13
EXE (no src) :
1.5.50, 1.7.08, 1.7.09, 1.8.09, 1.8.16
SRC (no exe) :
1.5.21a
Toga CMLX :
EXE + SRC :
1.4 5c, 1.4 5d, 1.4 5e3
Toga Legend :
EXE + SRC :
1.4 beta 5c
Toga Returns :
EXE + SRC :
1.0, 1.1, 1.1b
EXE (no src) :
1.0 DeV165
Toga The Killer (also know as Arrester) :
EXE + SRC :
SingleTrans, DoubleTrans
Toga Toy :
EXE + SRC :
1.0
Toga II :
EXE + SRC :
0.93, 0.94 beta, 0.94 beta 2, 0.94 beta 3,
1.0, 1.0 MV6, 1.1a, 1.2, 1.2 b2a, 1.2.1, 1.2.1a, 1.3 x4, 1.3.1, 1.3.4, 1.4 beta 4, 1.4 b4a, 1.4 beta 5c, 1.4.1 SE,
2.0, 2.0 SE,
280513,
3.1.2 SE, 3.1.2 SE Checkov beta 3, 3.2.1 SE
4.0, 4.01,
Merge b15.18
EXE (no src) :
0.92, 0.93 Per,
1.1, 1.3.5, 1.4.3 JD beta 19a, 1.4.7 SE, 1.5.5 SE, 1.5.7 SE,
2.01, 2.02
3.0, 3.1.2 Alden, 3.1.3 SE, 3.1.4 SE2,
Braesch 1.0, Hair 1.0, Michniewski 1.0
SRC (no exe) :
1.4.2 JD
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Cyclone xTreme II
by Kranium
based on:
Fruit 2.1 by Fabien Letouzey
Toga II by Thomas Gaksch
Grapefruit 1.0 by Vadim Demichev
Toga CMLX 145e4 by Teemu Pudas
Cyclone xTreme by Norman Schmidt
This is the initial release of Cyclone xTreme II...
the executable is timestamped: Sep 17 2009 00:21:38
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Cyclone xTreme II
by Norman Schmidt
based on Fruit and Toga
Sep 17 2009 00:21:38
cyclone.cfg not found:
using default values...
hash: 128 MB
Ajedrecista.
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Re: Fruit and derivatives list !
Thanks Ajedrecista,
I don't have this one … But despite the II at the end of Xtreme, it seems to be an "older" version : timestamp is 17/09/09 and mine is 19/09/09.
But thanks a lot !
I don't have this one … But despite the II at the end of Xtreme, it seems to be an "older" version : timestamp is 17/09/09 and mine is 19/09/09.
But thanks a lot !
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Thanks Carldaman, Brendan and CMCanavessi.
So there are :
Fruit --> Some "official" derivatives (GambitFruit, GrapeFruit, The Mad Prune, …)
--> Some "illegal" derivatives at the beginning (Toga, Cyclops, …)
--> Some "potentially" "illegal" derivatives (Rybka, Ippolit, Robbolito, Fire, Houdini, …)
But Rybka, Robbolito and others brothers are way yoo differents from Fruit to keep it in the same "family" I think.
So there are :
Fruit --> Some "official" derivatives (GambitFruit, GrapeFruit, The Mad Prune, …)
--> Some "illegal" derivatives at the beginning (Toga, Cyclops, …)
--> Some "potentially" "illegal" derivatives (Rybka, Ippolit, Robbolito, Fire, Houdini, …)
But Rybka, Robbolito and others brothers are way yoo differents from Fruit to keep it in the same "family" I think.
carldaman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:15 am+1 Yes, and he beat me to it. I had the same joke in mind.BrendanJNorman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:03 amNice to see some humor on this, at times, dull forum.
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Some time ago I tried to add more modern search to Fruit 2.1: https://github.com/nescitus/growing_fruit
Count this project as abandoned, but it was fun to see good old Fruit calculate a couple of plies deeper.
Count this project as abandoned, but it was fun to see good old Fruit calculate a couple of plies deeper.
Pawel Koziol
http://www.pkoziol.cal24.pl/rodent/rodent.htm
http://www.pkoziol.cal24.pl/rodent/rodent.htm
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Re: Fruit and derivatives list !
I guess that in some sense, every engine is a fruit (and Stockfish) derivative.
Not a copy, of course, but the ideas contained have migrated outward.
The great lesson of Fabian's fruit is writing solid, bug free code (his use of assert() is masterful).
Is there a modern engine that does not use LMR?
More than any others, we can thank Fabian and Tord and the SF team.
But of course, that is how it should be'
Those engines were open source
I do not mean to dismiss the efforts of the other open source engines, which are all valuable
And I do not mean to dismiss all of the teaching sites (the first great one of which was Bruce Moreland's)
And the great lesson of Vas (zillions of fast games to test a feature). Yes, I know others were already doing this, but he was the one who spilled the beans.
imo-ymmv
Not a copy, of course, but the ideas contained have migrated outward.
The great lesson of Fabian's fruit is writing solid, bug free code (his use of assert() is masterful).
Is there a modern engine that does not use LMR?
More than any others, we can thank Fabian and Tord and the SF team.
But of course, that is how it should be'
Those engines were open source
I do not mean to dismiss the efforts of the other open source engines, which are all valuable
And I do not mean to dismiss all of the teaching sites (the first great one of which was Bruce Moreland's)
And the great lesson of Vas (zillions of fast games to test a feature). Yes, I know others were already doing this, but he was the one who spilled the beans.
imo-ymmv
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.
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SIM03 100 ms run
1. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Loop 2007 } show a similarity of 70.81%
2. Engine {Loop 2007 } and {Onno 1.04 } show a similarity of 68.57%
3. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Onno 1.04 } show a similarity of 66.76%
4. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 64.32%
5. Engine {Loop 2007 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 62.93%
6. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 62.92%
7. Engine {Onno 1.04 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 62.16%
8. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Loop 2007 } show a similarity of 62.08%
9. Engine {Loop 2007 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 60.86%
10. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 60.31%
11. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Onno 1.04 } show a similarity of 60.27%
12. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Fruit 2.1 } show a similarity of 59.80%
13. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Loop 2007 } show a similarity of 59.70%
14. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Fruit 2.1 } show a similarity of 59.69%
15. Engine {Onno 1.04 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 59.47%
16. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 58.18%
17. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Onno 1.04 } show a similarity of 58.10%
18. Engine {Philou 3.14.1 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 57.04%
19. Engine {Loop 2007 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 56.63%
20. Engine {Onno 1.04 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 55.78%
21. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 55.77%
22. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 55.35%
23. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 55.18%
24. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Cyclone 2.1 } show a similarity of 53.90%
25. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 53.46%
26. Engine {Philou 3.14.1 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 53.03%
27. Engine {Rybka 1.0 Beta } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 52.04%
28. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 51.94%
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Positions 8238 Alar Cycl Frui Loop Onno Phil Rybk Toga
{Alaric 707 } ----- 53.90 59.80 59.70 58.10 55.18 53.46 60.31
{Cyclone 2.1 } 53.90 ----- 59.69 62.08 60.27 58.18 51.94 55.35
{Fruit 2.1 } 59.80 59.69 ----- 70.81 66.76 64.32 55.77 62.92
{Loop 2007 } 59.70 62.08 70.81 ----- 68.57 62.93 56.63 60.86
{Onno 1.04 } 58.10 60.27 66.76 68.57 ----- 62.16 55.78 59.47
{Philou 3.14.1 } 55.18 58.18 64.32 62.93 62.16 ----- 53.03 57.04
{Rybka 1.0 Beta } 53.46 51.94 55.77 56.63 55.78 53.03 ----- 52.04
{Toga II 0.92 } 60.31 55.35 62.92 60.86 59.47 57.04 52.04 -----
2. Engine {Loop 2007 } and {Onno 1.04 } show a similarity of 68.57%
3. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Onno 1.04 } show a similarity of 66.76%
4. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 64.32%
5. Engine {Loop 2007 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 62.93%
6. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 62.92%
7. Engine {Onno 1.04 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 62.16%
8. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Loop 2007 } show a similarity of 62.08%
9. Engine {Loop 2007 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 60.86%
10. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 60.31%
11. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Onno 1.04 } show a similarity of 60.27%
12. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Fruit 2.1 } show a similarity of 59.80%
13. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Loop 2007 } show a similarity of 59.70%
14. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Fruit 2.1 } show a similarity of 59.69%
15. Engine {Onno 1.04 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 59.47%
16. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 58.18%
17. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Onno 1.04 } show a similarity of 58.10%
18. Engine {Philou 3.14.1 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 57.04%
19. Engine {Loop 2007 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 56.63%
20. Engine {Onno 1.04 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 55.78%
21. Engine {Fruit 2.1 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 55.77%
22. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 55.35%
23. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Philou 3.14.1 } show a similarity of 55.18%
24. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Cyclone 2.1 } show a similarity of 53.90%
25. Engine {Alaric 707 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 53.46%
26. Engine {Philou 3.14.1 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 53.03%
27. Engine {Rybka 1.0 Beta } and {Toga II 0.92 } show a similarity of 52.04%
28. Engine {Cyclone 2.1 } and {Rybka 1.0 Beta } show a similarity of 51.94%
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Re: Fruit and derivatives list !
Hi,De Noose Daniel wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:42 pm Thanks Alan.
I have already Toga II 4.01 sources but not the Raspberry Pi compile.
I'm interested in it.
It’s in the requested folder here: https://github.com/ScallyBag/AlsPicoEngines
Al.
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Thanks Alan !
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Fantastic Pawel ! Something I never see before !
Thanks
Thanks
PK wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:56 pm Some time ago I tried to add more modern search to Fruit 2.1: https://github.com/nescitus/growing_fruit
Count this project as abandoned, but it was fun to see good old Fruit calculate a couple of plies deeper.