New idea for a chess puzzle book, with two samples

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Re: New idea for a chess puzzle book, with two samples

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Ferdy wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:44 pm
How about showing the top 3 moves of FF or SF too? Then give points based on the score of those top 3 moves.
If top 1 move has a score of +0.15 (15cp) and top 2 move has a score of +0.10, since the scores are close, top 1 and 2 moves will get 3 points.
If top 1 move has a score of +0.15 and top 2 move has a score of -2.0, top 1 move will get 3 points, top 2 move may get 0 points because it is losing.

Perhaps the maximum points for top 1 move can be made 100. If according to the engine the top 1 move has a score of +1.5, and could translate to a score percentage of 80% according to some data for this engine, then the points for that move can be made 80 points as well. So move point system can be easily calculated.

One idea is to classify the top moves. Does the move seeks complications, does the move seeks simplification or something of a style, like Tal style, Capablanca style, Carlsen style etc. Once the tests are completed, a player can be profiled i.e 70% likes to complicate, 30% likes to simplify, or 60% Tal, 30% Capablanca, 10% Carlsen.
All interesting ideas. To do it properly in lc0 would be expensive, as it’s multipv implementation isn’t very good. If the top move is very strong, you might have a self-checkmate hanging out in third place without ever getting enough visits o bump it down. So you’d have to do three full searches to get the top moves.
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Re: New idea for a chess puzzle book, with two samples

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dkappe wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:01 am Since I’m making the books available for free, there’s nothing to justify. Use them or don’t.
Being free is not an excuse for worse than best quality, everything I've produced has been given for free, and I always procure a quality as if I was charging money for it.

I'd rather pay for the best than get mediocrity for free, if Fat Fritz is actually the best for this I'd want to see it. If it's not then it's as if you used Ethereal instead of Stockfish (nothing against Fat Fritz or Ethereal but if Ethereal was chosen over Stockfish I'd want to know why Ethereal as the best for the job.)
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Re: New idea for a chess puzzle book, with two samples

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Ovyron wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:04 pm
Being free is not an excuse for worse than best quality, everything I've produced has been given for free, and I always procure a quality as if I was charging money for it.

I'd rather pay for the best than get mediocrity for free, if Fat Fritz is actually the best for this I'd want to see it. If it's not then it's as if you used Ethereal instead of Stockfish (nothing against Fat Fritz or Ethereal but if Ethereal was chosen over Stockfish I'd want to know why Ethereal as the best for the job.)
Then you are free to not use them. Money back if not delighted. :-)

I've put up a bunch of additional books here: https://github.com/dkappe/leela-chess-w ... Quiz-Books

These reflect my opening interests. Let me know if anyone has a specific player or opening they would like to see.
Fat Titz by Stockfish, the engine with the bodaciously big net. Remember: size matters. If you want to learn more about this engine just google for "Fat Titz".