Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB!

[Zenmastur]

Except Zenmastur is playing with white and a draw is a poor result when the goal was to win.

He very well might win. But only if Black blunders. The opening is obviously a draw with correct play.

All opening moves are probably a draw (except for 1.g4! ). To conclude that the KGA is a draw based on him playing 3. ... d6 would be a mistake without further evidence. 3. ... d6 isn't exactly the most pressing line he could have played. He just couldn't play the other lines because his hardware wouldn't have been able to cope. The most pressing lines end up in wild complications which his hardware can't handle effectively.

Isn't that the point of the challenge? That Black, due to insufficient hardware and/or flawed methodology, will make a move that he considers correct but that is actually losing?

I agree.

I mean, drewdrew playing Black using Stockfish with 400 threads isn't going to lose from here, no matter what Zenmastur plays.

True, but Drewdrew wouldn't have been limited to choosing 3. ... d6 to accommodate his hardware's inability to handle complexity. It's much more likely he would have chosen a line like 3. .. g5 inviting 4.h4 and all the complexities that comes with it. So, instead of obtaining a much superior position by playing 3. .. g5 and possible winning chances he's left with an opening that evaluated to 0.00 right after he made the move.

Had I played the Spanish as he wanted I would have been in no better position than I am now. The Mashall is well known and well analyzed as are several other variation that lead to 0.00 or no appreciable advantage for white.

So, Alayan, if you know an opening where white is guaranteed a win and a draw is considered a poor result why don't you tell us what it is? Then we can all have a good laugh!

Regards,

Zenmastur

[Zenmastur]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6 4. d4 g5 5. h4 g4 6. Ng1 Qf6 7. Nc3 Ne7 8. Nge2 Bh6 9. Qd2 Nbc6 10. Nb5 Kd8 11. d5 a6 12. Nbc3 Ne5 13.Nxf4

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[Zenmastur]

The truth of the matter is that I've been playing at a level higher than Zenmastur's, as any sane person would pick the black's pieces here.

You're out of your mind. Playing better??? The position has been dead even since you blundered with 3. ... d6. You should be playing for a win by now. Instead you have a drawn position that you could very easily lose if you're not careful. How is that playing better?

I chose the KGA since you already told me you had a drawing line in the Spanish. There are tons of drawing lines in the Spanish so why would I walk into an opening when I know you have a prepared line. Much better that I take you out of your "book" and let you blunder play moves like 3. ... d6. Make another couple moves like that and see what happens!

The fact is I gave you a huge advantage by playing the King's Gambit and you couldn't maintain that advantage for even one move!

Regards,

Zenmastur

[Ovyron]

The fact is I gave you a huge advantage by playing the King's Gambit and you couldn't maintain that advantage for even one move!

That's why I would want to play with reversed colors and show how black has nothing

[Zenmastur]

The truth of the matter is that I've been playing at a level higher than Zenmastur's, as any sane person would pick the black's pieces here.

That's why I would want to play with reversed colors and show how black has nothing

Your funny!

Which is it? You're playing better than me and the black is prefered by any "SANE" person or "black has nothing"?

I'm both confused and bemused!

Regards,

Zenmastur

[Ovyron]

In this position you didn't play white's best moves, that's why any sane person would choose the black side.

In the KGA white can play better moves that show how black has nothing. I can show you them in a game, but you'd have to go through the humiliation of having failed to beat me from both sides of the KGA, so either bigger hardware does nothing, or you have yet to learn how to use it.

[Zenmastur]

In this position you didn't play white's best moves, that's why any sane person would choose the black side.

In the KGA white can play better moves that show how black has nothing. I can show you them in a game, but you'd have to go through the humiliation of having failed to beat me from both sides of the KGA, so either bigger hardware does nothing, or you have yet to learn how to use it.

Yeah...OK!

You can keep your antiquated hardware to yourself. The rest of us will enjoy the advantages of fast hardware. I'm sure if you ask drewdrew he will tell you he wishes he had your system instead of his!

[Ovyron]

If we played 1000 games you couldn't beat me once so I have no idea what advantages are you talking about!

[Zenmastur]

If we played 1000 games you couldn't beat me once so I have no idea what advantages are you talking about!

I have no doubt that whatever you say is true. JUST because YOU said it!

[Ovyron]

Well, at least you think I'm crazy and not a liar. I was crazy about guaranteeing a draw with 1.g4, so unfortunately I can't count my chickens before they hatch.

My pace on this game has been slow because of the other 16 games that I'm playing, once I catch up with all I'm planning to start turning my predictions into conditionals (after all, I have to commit to a line in advance to predict your moves, so I could just as well pre-move them.)