Stockfish play very decent giving pawn odds.........

[Vinvin]

Where is the Link for the 2nd game I can Not find it ? Found it

First game :
[pgn][Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.06.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "stockfish"]
[Black "joppie2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PP1P1PPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -"]
[ECO "A45"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2919"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[EndTime "6:34:59 PDT"]
[Termination "Game drawn by repetition"]

1. d4 {[%clk 0:30:03.4]} 1... Nf6 {[%clk 0:29:57]} 2. Nc3 {[%clk 0:30:08.4]}
2... g6 {[%clk 0:30:00.9]} 3. Be2 {[%clk 0:29:06.1]} 3... Bg7 {[%clk 0:29:56.1]}
4. Nf3 {[%clk 0:28:42.4]} 4... d6 {[%clk 0:29:51.3]} 5. O-O {[%clk 0:28:08.3]}
5... O-O {[%clk 0:29:53]} 6. Be3 {[%clk 0:27:27.7]} 6... Nbd7 {[%clk 0:29:50.7]}
7. Qd2 {[%clk 0:26:08.4]} 7... Nb6 {[%clk 0:29:51]} 8. h3 {[%clk 0:24:20.5]}
8... Bd7 {[%clk 0:29:39.5]} 9. Bh6 {[%clk 0:23:51.1]} 9... Re8 {[%clk
0:29:12.5]} 10. Rfd1 {[%clk 0:21:30.8]} 10... Bc6 {[%clk 0:28:38.6]} 11. Ne1
{[%clk 0:21:25.7]} 11... e6 {[%clk 0:27:35.4]} 12. Bxg7 {[%clk 0:20:05.5]} 12...
Kxg7 {[%clk 0:27:28.5]} 13. Nc2 {[%clk 0:19:25.4]} 13... Nbd5 {[%clk 0:26:49.6]}
14. Bd3 {[%clk 0:18:30.5]} 14... a5 {[%clk 0:25:32.8]} 15. Rac1 {[%clk
0:17:34.4]} 15... Nxc3 {[%clk 0:24:11.9]} 16. bxc3 {[%clk 0:17:15.5]} 16... e5
{[%clk 0:23:39]} 17. Ne3 {[%clk 0:16:53.2]} 17... exd4 {[%clk 0:22:56.5]} 18.
cxd4 {[%clk 0:16:44.5]} 18... d5 {[%clk 0:22:53.3]} 19. Qc3 {[%clk 0:15:30.2]}
19... Qd6 {[%clk 0:22:25.8]} 20. Re1 {[%clk 0:14:55.2]} 20... Qb4 {[%clk
0:21:47.3]} 21. Re2 {[%clk 0:14:48.3]} 21... Qxc3 {[%clk 0:20:44.9]} 22. Rxc3
{[%clk 0:14:35.6]} 22... Ne4 {[%clk 0:19:47.6]} 23. Rc1 {[%clk 0:12:56.5]} 23...
Ng5 {[%clk 0:19:35.8]} 24. Rd2 {[%clk 0:12:51.9]} 24... Ne6 {[%clk 0:19:34.4]}
25. Be2 {[%clk 0:11:35.1]} 25... h5 {[%clk 0:18:16.5]} 26. h4 {[%clk 0:11:30.2]}
26... Red8 {[%clk 0:18:03]} 27. g3 {[%clk 0:08:12.6]} 27... Be8 {[%clk 0:16:51]}
28. f4 {[%clk 0:07:47.2]} 28... c5 {[%clk 0:14:02]} 29. dxc5 {[%clk 0:07:19.4]}
29... Rac8 {[%clk 0:12:57]} 30. Rxd5 {[%clk 0:07:03.3]} 30... Rxd5 {[%clk
0:12:58.9]} 31. Nxd5 {[%clk 0:06:43.8]} 31... Rxc5 {[%clk 0:13:08.8]} 32. Rxc5
{[%clk 0:06:11.6]} 32... Nxc5 {[%clk 0:13:16.2]} 33. a3 {[%clk 0:04:18.3]} 33...
Ne4 {[%clk 0:11:40.1]} 34. Bd3 {[%clk 0:03:47.6]} 34... Nd6 {[%clk 0:10:22.3]}
35. Nb6 {[%clk 0:03:48.4]} 35... Bc6 {[%clk 0:09:58.1]} 36. Kf2 {[%clk 0:03:45]}
36... Kf6 {[%clk 0:09:47.4]} 37. Ke3 {[%clk 0:03:00.2]} 37... Ke6 {[%clk
0:08:46.8]} 38. Nc4 {[%clk 0:02:54.6]} 38... Nf5+ {[%clk 0:03:28.4]} 39. Kf2
{[%clk 0:01:52.5]} 39... Bd5 {[%clk 0:02:50.4]} 40. Nxa5 {[%clk 0:01:53.8]}
40... Nd6 {[%clk 0:02:53.5]} 41. Bc2 {[%clk 0:01:55]} 41... Nb5 {[%clk
0:02:34.5]} 42. a4 {[%clk 0:01:55.6]} 42... Nd4 {[%clk 0:01:48.2]} 43. Bd3
{[%clk 0:01:56.4]} 43... Kd6 {[%clk 0:00:50.6]} 44. Nc4+ {[%clk 0:01:55.5]}
44... Kc5 {[%clk 0:00:45.9]} 45. Ne3 {[%clk 0:01:51.2]} 45... Be6 {[%clk
0:00:38.8]} 46. a5 {[%clk 0:01:52.6]} 46... Nc6 {[%clk 0:00:41.8]} 47. a6 {[%clk
0:01:44.3]} 47... bxa6 {[%clk 0:00:51.7]} 48. Bxa6 {[%clk 0:01:42.4]} 48... Nd4
{[%clk 0:01:00.9]} 49. Bd3 {[%clk 0:01:38]} 49... Kd6 {[%clk 0:01:02.7]} 50. Nf1
{[%clk 0:01:40.2]} 50... Bf5 {[%clk 0:01:09.5]} 51. Ba6 {[%clk 0:01:41.8]} 51...
Be6 {[%clk 0:01:16.4]} 52. Nd2 {[%clk 0:01:43.9]} 52... Bd5 {[%clk 0:01:23]} 53.
Bd3 {[%clk 0:01:45.9]} 53... Ke6 {[%clk 0:01:15.3]} 54. Nb1 {[%clk 0:01:47.6]}
54... Kf6 {[%clk 0:01:18.1]} 55. Nc3 {[%clk 0:01:48.5]} 55... Bc6 {[%clk
0:01:27.1]} 56. Bf1 {[%clk 0:01:49.7]} 56... Nf5 {[%clk 0:01:34.5]} 57. Bd3
{[%clk 0:01:45.8]} 57... Nd6 {[%clk 0:01:37.7]} 58. Ke3 {[%clk 0:01:34.7]} 58...
Ke6 {[%clk 0:01:38]} 59. Ne2 {[%clk 0:01:35.6]} 59... Kf6 {[%clk 0:01:47]} 60.
Nd4 {[%clk 0:01:35.8]} 60... Bd5 {[%clk 0:01:55.8]} 61. Bb1 {[%clk 0:01:27]}
61... Nc4+ {[%clk 0:02:04.1]} 62. Kf2 {[%clk 0:01:26.6]} 62... Nd6 {[%clk
0:02:14]} 63. Bd3 {[%clk 0:01:29.5]} 63... Be4 {[%clk 0:02:18]} 64. Bxe4 {[%clk
0:01:25.4]} 64... Nxe4+ {[%clk 0:02:26.1]} 65. Kf3 {[%clk 0:01:28.4]} 65... Nd6
{[%clk 0:02:36]} 66. Nc2 {[%clk 0:01:26]} 66... Nf5 {[%clk 0:02:43.7]} 67. Kg2
{[%clk 0:01:28.3]} 67... Ke6 {[%clk 0:02:52.3]} 68. Kf3 {[%clk 0:01:26.9]} 68...
Kf6 {[%clk 0:03:01.3]} 69. Nb4 {[%clk 0:01:22.8]} 69... Nd4+ {[%clk 0:03:09.8]}
70. Ke4 {[%clk 0:01:22.8]} 70... Nf5 {[%clk 0:03:19.7]} 71. Kf3 {[%clk
0:01:12.8]} 71... Nd4+ {[%clk 0:03:28.7]} 72. Kg2 {[%clk 0:01:15.3]} 72... Nf5
{[%clk 0:03:38.6]} 73. Kf3 {[%clk 0:00:33.8]} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

Second game :
[pgn][Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.06.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "stockfish"]
[Black "joppie2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/P1PPPP1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -"]
[ECO "A15"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2919"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[EndTime "8:13:35 PDT"]
[Termination "Game drawn by repetition"]

1. c4 {[%clk 0:30:03.6]} 1... Nf6 {[%clk 0:30:03]} 2. Bg2 {[%clk 0:30:08.6]}
2... g6 {[%clk 0:30:11.1]} 3. Nc3 {[%clk 0:29:34.9]} 3... Bg7 {[%clk 0:30:15.8]}
4. Rb1 {[%clk 0:29:07.3]} 4... O-O {[%clk 0:30:17.5]} 5. Bxb7 {[%clk 0:28:58.5]}
5... Bxb7 {[%clk 0:30:23.7]} 6. Rxb7 {[%clk 0:28:19.7]} 6... Qc8 {[%clk
0:30:29.2]} 7. Rb1 {[%clk 0:26:57.8]} 7... c5 {[%clk 0:30:29.4]} 8. d3 {[%clk
0:24:58.1]} 8... Nc6 {[%clk 0:30:27.6]} 9. Nf3 {[%clk 0:24:44.2]} 9... d6 {[%clk
0:30:30.1]} 10. O-O {[%clk 0:24:16.7]} 10... Qg4+ {[%clk 0:30:34.4]} 11. Kh1
{[%clk 0:24:26.6]} 11... Rab8 {[%clk 0:30:41.7]} 12. Rb5 {[%clk 0:20:46.1]}
12... a6 {[%clk 0:28:09.4]} 13. Rxb8 {[%clk 0:19:56.5]} 13... Rxb8 {[%clk
0:28:13.7]} 14. Ng1 {[%clk 0:18:48.4]} 14... Qd7 {[%clk 0:26:04.1]} 15. Qa4
{[%clk 0:17:22.9]} 15... Nb4 {[%clk 0:24:00.7]} 16. Qb3 {[%clk 0:16:44.4]} 16...
Qb7+ {[%clk 0:21:40.4]} 17. f3 {[%clk 0:16:39.4]} 17... Nc6 {[%clk 0:19:12.7]}
18. Qa4 {[%clk 0:14:14]} 18... Nh5 {[%clk 0:18:12.6]} 19. Bd2 {[%clk 0:14:10.9]}
19... Bxc3 {[%clk 0:17:11.1]} 20. Bxc3 {[%clk 0:13:49.9]} 20... Nf4 {[%clk
0:17:18.1]} 21. Qd1 {[%clk 0:12:38.6]} 21... e5 {[%clk 0:16:58.9]} 22. e3 {[%clk
0:12:23.5]} 22... Ne6 {[%clk 0:17:03.3]} 23. Ne2 {[%clk 0:12:13.4]} 23... Ne7
{[%clk 0:14:40.5]} 24. Ng3 {[%clk 0:11:49.4]} 24... f5 {[%clk 0:13:08.7]} 25.
Qe1 {[%clk 0:06:52.9]} 25... Kf7 {[%clk 0:11:17]} 26. Ne2 {[%clk 0:06:12.7]}
26... Qc6 {[%clk 0:09:56.4]} 27. Qh4 {[%clk 0:06:13.6]} 27... h5 {[%clk
0:09:53.9]} 28. Nf4 {[%clk 0:05:59.6]} 28... Nf8 {[%clk 0:07:54.9]} 29. Nh3
{[%clk 0:05:51.5]} 29... Qa4 {[%clk 0:07:24.7]} 30. Ng5+ {[%clk 0:05:47.3]}
30... Ke8 {[%clk 0:07:23.8]} 31. Qf2 {[%clk 0:05:43.2]} 31... Kd7 {[%clk
0:05:13.6]} 32. f4 {[%clk 0:05:38.2]} 32... e4 {[%clk 0:05:19.7]} 33. Qd2 {[%clk
0:05:32.9]} 33... Ne6 {[%clk 0:05:12.8]} 34. Nh7 {[%clk 0:05:17]} 34... Ng8
{[%clk 0:04:19.7]} 35. Kg1 {[%clk 0:05:13.9]} 35... exd3 {[%clk 0:03:20.4]} 36.
Qxd3 {[%clk 0:05:10]} 36... Qxa2 {[%clk 0:03:13.6]} 37. Rd1 {[%clk 0:05:04.2]}
37... Rb6 {[%clk 0:03:20.8]} 38. Be5 {[%clk 0:05:01.1]} 38... Qb3 {[%clk
0:02:35.6]} 39. Qxb3 {[%clk 0:04:50.4]} 39... Rxb3 {[%clk 0:02:45.5]} 40. Rxd6+
{[%clk 0:04:39.1]} 40... Ke7 {[%clk 0:02:53.7]} 41. Rxa6 {[%clk 0:04:22.2]}
41... Rxe3 {[%clk 0:03:00.5]} 42. Ra7+ {[%clk 0:03:33.5]} 42... Ke8 {[%clk
0:03:07.8]} 43. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:02:39.2]} 43... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:15.6]} 44. Ra7+
{[%clk 0:02:30.1]} 44... Ke8 {[%clk 0:03:23.4]} 45. Ra6 {[%clk 0:02:21.2]} 45...
Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:11.6]} 46. Kf2 {[%clk 0:02:12]} 46... Re4 {[%clk 0:03:11.6]} 47.
Ra7+ {[%clk 0:01:12.2]} 47... Ke8 {[%clk 0:03:19.6]} 48. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:01:18]}
48... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:27.8]} 49. Ra7+ {[%clk 0:00:31.2]} 49... Ke8 {[%clk
0:03:34.7]} 50. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:00:34.1]} 50... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:40.5]} 51. Ra7+
{[%clk 0:00:16.8]} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

Where is the Link for the 2nd game I can Not find it ? Found it

Second game :
[pgn][Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.06.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "stockfish"]
[Black "joppie2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/P1PPPP1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -"]
[ECO "A15"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2919"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[EndTime "8:13:35 PDT"]
[Termination "Game drawn by repetition"]

1. c4 {[%clk 0:30:03.6]} 1... Nf6 {[%clk 0:30:03]} 2. Bg2 {[%clk 0:30:08.6]}
2... g6 {[%clk 0:30:11.1]} 3. Nc3 {[%clk 0:29:34.9]} 3... Bg7 {[%clk 0:30:15.8]}
4. Rb1 {[%clk 0:29:07.3]} 4... O-O {[%clk 0:30:17.5]} 5. Bxb7 {[%clk 0:28:58.5]}
5... Bxb7 {[%clk 0:30:23.7]} 6. Rxb7 {[%clk 0:28:19.7]} 6... Qc8 {[%clk
0:30:29.2]} 7. Rb1 {[%clk 0:26:57.8]} 7... c5 {[%clk 0:30:29.4]} 8. d3 {[%clk
0:24:58.1]} 8... Nc6 {[%clk 0:30:27.6]} 9. Nf3 {[%clk 0:24:44.2]} 9... d6 {[%clk
0:30:30.1]} 10. O-O {[%clk 0:24:16.7]} 10... Qg4+ {[%clk 0:30:34.4]} 11. Kh1
{[%clk 0:24:26.6]} 11... Rab8 {[%clk 0:30:41.7]} 12. Rb5 {[%clk 0:20:46.1]}
12... a6 {[%clk 0:28:09.4]} 13. Rxb8 {[%clk 0:19:56.5]} 13... Rxb8 {[%clk
0:28:13.7]} 14. Ng1 {[%clk 0:18:48.4]} 14... Qd7 {[%clk 0:26:04.1]} 15. Qa4
{[%clk 0:17:22.9]} 15... Nb4 {[%clk 0:24:00.7]} 16. Qb3 {[%clk 0:16:44.4]} 16...
Qb7+ {[%clk 0:21:40.4]} 17. f3 {[%clk 0:16:39.4]} 17... Nc6 {[%clk 0:19:12.7]}
18. Qa4 {[%clk 0:14:14]} 18... Nh5 {[%clk 0:18:12.6]} 19. Bd2 {[%clk 0:14:10.9]}
19... Bxc3 {[%clk 0:17:11.1]} 20. Bxc3 {[%clk 0:13:49.9]} 20... Nf4 {[%clk
0:17:18.1]} 21. Qd1 {[%clk 0:12:38.6]} 21... e5 {[%clk 0:16:58.9]} 22. e3 {[%clk
0:12:23.5]} 22... Ne6 {[%clk 0:17:03.3]} 23. Ne2 {[%clk 0:12:13.4]} 23... Ne7
{[%clk 0:14:40.5]} 24. Ng3 {[%clk 0:11:49.4]} 24... f5 {[%clk 0:13:08.7]} 25.
Qe1 {[%clk 0:06:52.9]} 25... Kf7 {[%clk 0:11:17]} 26. Ne2 {[%clk 0:06:12.7]}
26... Qc6 {[%clk 0:09:56.4]} 27. Qh4 {[%clk 0:06:13.6]} 27... h5 {[%clk
0:09:53.9]} 28. Nf4 {[%clk 0:05:59.6]} 28... Nf8 {[%clk 0:07:54.9]} 29. Nh3
{[%clk 0:05:51.5]} 29... Qa4 {[%clk 0:07:24.7]} 30. Ng5+ {[%clk 0:05:47.3]}
30... Ke8 {[%clk 0:07:23.8]} 31. Qf2 {[%clk 0:05:43.2]} 31... Kd7 {[%clk
0:05:13.6]} 32. f4 {[%clk 0:05:38.2]} 32... e4 {[%clk 0:05:19.7]} 33. Qd2 {[%clk
0:05:32.9]} 33... Ne6 {[%clk 0:05:12.8]} 34. Nh7 {[%clk 0:05:17]} 34... Ng8
{[%clk 0:04:19.7]} 35. Kg1 {[%clk 0:05:13.9]} 35... exd3 {[%clk 0:03:20.4]} 36.
Qxd3 {[%clk 0:05:10]} 36... Qxa2 {[%clk 0:03:13.6]} 37. Rd1 {[%clk 0:05:04.2]}
37... Rb6 {[%clk 0:03:20.8]} 38. Be5 {[%clk 0:05:01.1]} 38... Qb3 {[%clk
0:02:35.6]} 39. Qxb3 {[%clk 0:04:50.4]} 39... Rxb3 {[%clk 0:02:45.5]} 40. Rxd6+
{[%clk 0:04:39.1]} 40... Ke7 {[%clk 0:02:53.7]} 41. Rxa6 {[%clk 0:04:22.2]}
41... Rxe3 {[%clk 0:03:00.5]} 42. Ra7+ {[%clk 0:03:33.5]} 42... Ke8 {[%clk
0:03:07.8]} 43. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:02:39.2]} 43... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:15.6]} 44. Ra7+
{[%clk 0:02:30.1]} 44... Ke8 {[%clk 0:03:23.4]} 45. Ra6 {[%clk 0:02:21.2]} 45...
Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:11.6]} 46. Kf2 {[%clk 0:02:12]} 46... Re4 {[%clk 0:03:11.6]} 47.
Ra7+ {[%clk 0:01:12.2]} 47... Ke8 {[%clk 0:03:19.6]} 48. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:01:18]}
48... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:27.8]} 49. Ra7+ {[%clk 0:00:31.2]} 49... Ke8 {[%clk
0:03:34.7]} 50. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:00:34.1]} 50... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:40.5]} 51. Ra7+
{[%clk 0:00:16.8]} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

I could NOT believe I read that somebody wrote Carlsen can give GM Foreest two pawns when Carlsen had a hard time beating him 4 years ago, probably playing white that most that Carlsen can give him is the b2 pawn

[lkaufman]

Where is the Link for the 2nd game I can Not find it ? Found it

Second game :
[pgn][Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.06.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "stockfish"]
[Black "joppie2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/P1PPPP1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -"]
[ECO "A15"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2919"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[EndTime "8:13:35 PDT"]
[Termination "Game drawn by repetition"]

1. c4 {[%clk 0:30:03.6]} 1... Nf6 {[%clk 0:30:03]} 2. Bg2 {[%clk 0:30:08.6]}
2... g6 {[%clk 0:30:11.1]} 3. Nc3 {[%clk 0:29:34.9]} 3... Bg7 {[%clk 0:30:15.8]}
4. Rb1 {[%clk 0:29:07.3]} 4... O-O {[%clk 0:30:17.5]} 5. Bxb7 {[%clk 0:28:58.5]}
5... Bxb7 {[%clk 0:30:23.7]} 6. Rxb7 {[%clk 0:28:19.7]} 6... Qc8 {[%clk
0:30:29.2]} 7. Rb1 {[%clk 0:26:57.8]} 7... c5 {[%clk 0:30:29.4]} 8. d3 {[%clk
0:24:58.1]} 8... Nc6 {[%clk 0:30:27.6]} 9. Nf3 {[%clk 0:24:44.2]} 9... d6 {[%clk
0:30:30.1]} 10. O-O {[%clk 0:24:16.7]} 10... Qg4+ {[%clk 0:30:34.4]} 11. Kh1
{[%clk 0:24:26.6]} 11... Rab8 {[%clk 0:30:41.7]} 12. Rb5 {[%clk 0:20:46.1]}
12... a6 {[%clk 0:28:09.4]} 13. Rxb8 {[%clk 0:19:56.5]} 13... Rxb8 {[%clk
0:28:13.7]} 14. Ng1 {[%clk 0:18:48.4]} 14... Qd7 {[%clk 0:26:04.1]} 15. Qa4
{[%clk 0:17:22.9]} 15... Nb4 {[%clk 0:24:00.7]} 16. Qb3 {[%clk 0:16:44.4]} 16...
Qb7+ {[%clk 0:21:40.4]} 17. f3 {[%clk 0:16:39.4]} 17... Nc6 {[%clk 0:19:12.7]}
18. Qa4 {[%clk 0:14:14]} 18... Nh5 {[%clk 0:18:12.6]} 19. Bd2 {[%clk 0:14:10.9]}
19... Bxc3 {[%clk 0:17:11.1]} 20. Bxc3 {[%clk 0:13:49.9]} 20... Nf4 {[%clk
0:17:18.1]} 21. Qd1 {[%clk 0:12:38.6]} 21... e5 {[%clk 0:16:58.9]} 22. e3 {[%clk
0:12:23.5]} 22... Ne6 {[%clk 0:17:03.3]} 23. Ne2 {[%clk 0:12:13.4]} 23... Ne7
{[%clk 0:14:40.5]} 24. Ng3 {[%clk 0:11:49.4]} 24... f5 {[%clk 0:13:08.7]} 25.
Qe1 {[%clk 0:06:52.9]} 25... Kf7 {[%clk 0:11:17]} 26. Ne2 {[%clk 0:06:12.7]}
26... Qc6 {[%clk 0:09:56.4]} 27. Qh4 {[%clk 0:06:13.6]} 27... h5 {[%clk
0:09:53.9]} 28. Nf4 {[%clk 0:05:59.6]} 28... Nf8 {[%clk 0:07:54.9]} 29. Nh3
{[%clk 0:05:51.5]} 29... Qa4 {[%clk 0:07:24.7]} 30. Ng5+ {[%clk 0:05:47.3]}
30... Ke8 {[%clk 0:07:23.8]} 31. Qf2 {[%clk 0:05:43.2]} 31... Kd7 {[%clk
0:05:13.6]} 32. f4 {[%clk 0:05:38.2]} 32... e4 {[%clk 0:05:19.7]} 33. Qd2 {[%clk
0:05:32.9]} 33... Ne6 {[%clk 0:05:12.8]} 34. Nh7 {[%clk 0:05:17]} 34... Ng8
{[%clk 0:04:19.7]} 35. Kg1 {[%clk 0:05:13.9]} 35... exd3 {[%clk 0:03:20.4]} 36.
Qxd3 {[%clk 0:05:10]} 36... Qxa2 {[%clk 0:03:13.6]} 37. Rd1 {[%clk 0:05:04.2]}
37... Rb6 {[%clk 0:03:20.8]} 38. Be5 {[%clk 0:05:01.1]} 38... Qb3 {[%clk
0:02:35.6]} 39. Qxb3 {[%clk 0:04:50.4]} 39... Rxb3 {[%clk 0:02:45.5]} 40. Rxd6+
{[%clk 0:04:39.1]} 40... Ke7 {[%clk 0:02:53.7]} 41. Rxa6 {[%clk 0:04:22.2]}
41... Rxe3 {[%clk 0:03:00.5]} 42. Ra7+ {[%clk 0:03:33.5]} 42... Ke8 {[%clk
0:03:07.8]} 43. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:02:39.2]} 43... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:15.6]} 44. Ra7+
{[%clk 0:02:30.1]} 44... Ke8 {[%clk 0:03:23.4]} 45. Ra6 {[%clk 0:02:21.2]} 45...
Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:11.6]} 46. Kf2 {[%clk 0:02:12]} 46... Re4 {[%clk 0:03:11.6]} 47.
Ra7+ {[%clk 0:01:12.2]} 47... Ke8 {[%clk 0:03:19.6]} 48. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:01:18]}
48... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:27.8]} 49. Ra7+ {[%clk 0:00:31.2]} 49... Ke8 {[%clk
0:03:34.7]} 50. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:00:34.1]} 50... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:40.5]} 51. Ra7+
{[%clk 0:00:16.8]} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

I could NOT believe I read that somebody wrote Carlsen can give GM Foreest two pawns when Carlsen had a hard time beating him 4 years ago, probably playing white that most that Carlsen can give him is the b2 pawn

People write lots of ridiculous things, it's only surprising if the person is someone respected or highly qualified in the relevant field. I would certainly bet on Foreest against Carlsen at b2 odds, although Carlsen would have excellent drawing chances.

[Chessqueen]

Where is the Link for the 2nd game I can Not find it ? Found it

I could NOT believe I read that somebody wrote Carlsen can give GM Foreest two pawns when Carlsen had a hard time beating him 4 years ago, probably playing white that most that Carlsen can give him is the b2 pawn

People write lots of ridiculous things, it's only surprising if the person is someone respected or highly qualified in the relevant field. I would certainly bet on Foreest against Carlsen at b2 odds, although Carlsen would have excellent drawing chances.

Well if we estimate that Stockfish is at least 3080 on my computer which is 200 rating points higher than Carlsen, thefore, Carlsen would have a hard time giving a player rated 2450 or over two pawns odds

[pgn]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "2020.06.05"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish 11 64"]
[Black "Jorge Sammour"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPP1P1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "125"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6 3. Nc3 dxc4 4. d5 Nb8 5. Bf4 c6 6. Bxc4 Nf6 7. Nge2 cxd5 8.
Nxd5 Nxd5 9. Bxd5 e6 10. Be4 Qxd1+ 11. Rxd1 Bb4+ 12. Nc3 Bxc3+ 13. bxc3 Nc6 14.
Rg1 g6 15. h4 e5 16. Bxc6+ bxc6 17. Bxe5 O-O 18. Rg3 Bf5 19. Re3 Rfe8 20. a3
Re6 21. Bd4 Rxe3+ 22. Bxe3 a5 23. Rd6 Be4 24. Kd2 Rb8 25. Bd4 a4 26. Bf6 c5 27.
Rd7 c4 28. Rc7 Bd5 29. Rc5 Be6 30. Ra5 Bd7 31. Ke3 Rc8 32. Kd4 h6 33. Ra7 Bb5
34. Rb7 Be8 35. Be5 Kh7 36. Bf4 Rc6 37. Be3 Rc8 38. Ra7 Kg7 39. Kd5 Bb5 40. Ra5
Bd7 41. Kd6 Bc6 42. Ra6 Be8 43. Rb6 Kh7 44. Ke7 h5 45. Kf8 Kh8 46. Bd4+ Kh7 47.
f4 f5 48. Rb7+ Kh6 49. Bg7+ Kh7 50. Be5+ Kh6 51. Ke7 Bc6 52. Ra7 Ra8 53. Rc7
Bd5 54. Kd6 Rd8+ 55. Kc5 Be6 56. Re7 Rd5+ 57. Kc6 Rxe5 58. fxe5 Bg8 59. Re8 Bf7
60. Rf8 Be6 61. Kd6 Kg7 62. Kxe6 Kxf8 63. Kd7 1-0[/pgn]

[Vinvin]

3rd game, GM Jorden van Foreest beat Stockfish !!!!!!

[pgn][Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.06.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "stockfish"]
[Black "joppie2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PP1PPP1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2919"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[EndTime "10:15:02 PDT"]
[Termination "joppie2 won by checkmate"]

1. d4 {[%clk 0:30:03.5]} 1... d5 {[%clk 0:30:04.4]} 2. Bg2 {[%clk 0:30:08.5]}
2... Nf6 {[%clk 0:29:57.6]} 3. Nf3 {[%clk 0:29:28.5]} 3... c6 {[%clk 0:29:40.6]}
4. Bf4 {[%clk 0:27:17.8]} 4... g6 {[%clk 0:29:32.8]} 5. O-O {[%clk 0:26:21.6]}
5... Bg7 {[%clk 0:29:35.2]} 6. Nc3 {[%clk 0:26:08.8]} 6... O-O {[%clk
0:29:32.2]} 7. Re1 {[%clk 0:25:02]} 7... Bg4 {[%clk 0:28:49.7]} 8. h3 {[%clk
0:24:09.3]} 8... Bxf3 {[%clk 0:27:43.6]} 9. Bxf3 {[%clk 0:24:02.6]} 9... Nbd7
{[%clk 0:27:50.9]} 10. Qd2 {[%clk 0:21:02.1]} 10... Re8 {[%clk 0:27:36.6]} 11.
Rad1 {[%clk 0:20:28.9]} 11... e5 {[%clk 0:26:21.8]} 12. dxe5 {[%clk 0:20:19]}
12... Nxe5 {[%clk 0:26:29]} 13. Bxe5 {[%clk 0:20:09.3]} 13... Rxe5 {[%clk
0:26:34.4]} 14. e4 {[%clk 0:19:31.8]} 14... Qd7 {[%clk 0:24:05.8]} 15. Bg2
{[%clk 0:19:20.1]} 15... Rae8 {[%clk 0:22:05.3]} 16. Kf1 {[%clk 0:18:42.7]}
16... Nh5 {[%clk 0:19:27]} 17. exd5 {[%clk 0:18:29]} 17... Rxe1+ {[%clk
0:19:28.1]} 18. Rxe1 {[%clk 0:17:32.4]} 18... Rxe1+ {[%clk 0:19:34.7]} 19. Kxe1
{[%clk 0:16:43.1]} 19... Bxc3 {[%clk 0:18:29.6]} 20. bxc3 {[%clk 0:16:19.6]}
20... cxd5 {[%clk 0:18:35.2]} 21. Bxd5 {[%clk 0:15:51.4]} 21... b6 {[%clk
0:17:55]} 22. Bg2 {[%clk 0:15:38.8]} 22... Qf5 {[%clk 0:16:53.4]} 23. Qd8+
{[%clk 0:13:18.8]} 23... Kg7 {[%clk 0:17:00.5]} 24. Qd4+ {[%clk 0:12:37]} 24...
Qf6 {[%clk 0:16:49.5]} 25. Bf1 {[%clk 0:12:14.9]} 25... Nf4 {[%clk 0:16:31.6]}
26. Kd2 {[%clk 0:09:44.8]} 26... Ne6 {[%clk 0:15:59.7]} 27. Qe3 {[%clk
0:09:28.6]} 27... Qd8+ {[%clk 0:14:35.1]} 28. Kc1 {[%clk 0:08:39.9]} 28... Qd5
{[%clk 0:14:37]} 29. Kb2 {[%clk 0:08:03]} 29... h5 {[%clk 0:14:05.8]} 30. f3
{[%clk 0:05:44.6]} 30... Kf6 {[%clk 0:13:32.3]} 31. Qf2 {[%clk 0:05:02.3]} 31...
Qe5 {[%clk 0:12:30.2]} 32. Bc4 {[%clk 0:04:57.8]} 32... Nc5 {[%clk 0:10:30.3]}
33. Qd2 {[%clk 0:03:53.1]} 33... Kg7 {[%clk 0:10:16.1]} 34. a3 {[%clk
0:01:41.2]} 34... h4 {[%clk 0:09:47.5]} 35. Qc2 {[%clk 0:01:32.1]} 35... Qe3
{[%clk 0:07:40.3]} 36. Qd1 {[%clk 0:01:06]} 36... Qf4 {[%clk 0:07:01.3]} 37. Qe2
{[%clk 0:01:03.9]} 37... Nd7 {[%clk 0:06:40.9]} 38. Bb3 {[%clk 0:01:07.7]} 38...
Ne5 {[%clk 0:06:19.3]} 39. Bd1 {[%clk 0:01:00]} 39... Qe3 {[%clk 0:05:18.9]} 40.
Kb3 {[%clk 0:00:55.3]} 40... Qxe2 {[%clk 0:05:19.9]} 41. Bxe2 {[%clk 0:00:52.6]}
41... g5 {[%clk 0:05:09.9]} 42. Kc2 {[%clk 0:00:50]} 42... Kf6 {[%clk
0:05:09.2]} 43. Kd2 {[%clk 0:00:46.7]} 43... Ng6 {[%clk 0:05:17.4]} 44. Bf1
{[%clk 0:00:36.6]} 44... Ke5 {[%clk 0:05:24.7]} 45. Ke2 {[%clk 0:00:21.4]} 45...
Nf4+ {[%clk 0:05:19.1]} 46. Kd2 {[%clk 0:00:14.3]} 46... f6 {[%clk 0:05:24.1]}
47. Kc2 {[%clk 0:00:15.5]} 47... Nd5 {[%clk 0:04:48.9]} 48. Ba6 {[%clk
0:00:13.1]} 48... Kf4 {[%clk 0:04:32.9]} 49. Bb7 {[%clk 0:00:19.1]} 49... Ne7
{[%clk 0:04:29.9]} 50. Ba6 {[%clk 0:00:13.8]} 50... Kxf3 {[%clk 0:04:34.1]} 51.
Kb3 {[%clk 0:00:12.7]} 51... f5 {[%clk 0:04:39.9]} 52. Kc4 {[%clk 0:00:14.2]}
52... g4 {[%clk 0:04:36.6]} 53. Kd4 {[%clk 0:00:16.9]} 53... g3 {[%clk
0:04:40.8]} 54. Bb7+ {[%clk 0:00:23.8]} 54... Kf2 {[%clk 0:04:49.3]} 55. a4
{[%clk 0:00:29.1]} 55... f4 {[%clk 0:04:55.1]} 56. Ke5 {[%clk 0:00:15.8]} 56...
f3 {[%clk 0:05:02.6]} 57. a5 {[%clk 0:00:22.4]} 57... g2 {[%clk 0:05:09.6]} 58.
axb6 {[%clk 0:00:28.6]} 58... axb6 {[%clk 0:05:19.5]} 59. c4 {[%clk 0:00:36.2]}
59... g1=Q {[%clk 0:05:27.3]} 60. Ke6 {[%clk 0:00:43.3]} 60... Qg5 {[%clk
0:05:34.2]} 61. c5 {[%clk 0:00:50]} 61... Qxc5 {[%clk 0:05:42.2]} 62. Ba6 {[%clk
0:00:56.1]} 62... Ke3 {[%clk 0:05:51]} 63. Bf1 {[%clk 0:01:01.6]} 63... Nf5
{[%clk 0:05:58.1]} 64. Ba6 {[%clk 0:01:06.8]} 64... Kf4 {[%clk 0:06:06.9]} 65.
Kd7 {[%clk 0:01:11.5]} 65... Qd6+ {[%clk 0:06:15.8]} 66. Kc8 {[%clk 0:01:16]}
66... Qe7 {[%clk 0:06:24.8]} 67. Kb8 {[%clk 0:01:24.7]} 67... Ke5 {[%clk
0:06:32.9]} 68. Ka8 {[%clk 0:01:28]} 68... Kd6 {[%clk 0:06:41.6]} 69. Kb8 {[%clk
0:01:37.3]} 69... b5 {[%clk 0:06:49.9]} 70. Bb7 {[%clk 0:01:47]} 70... Kc5
{[%clk 0:06:58.5]} 71. Bc8 {[%clk 0:01:56.8]} 71... Kb6 {[%clk 0:07:07.4]} 72.
Ba6 {[%clk 0:02:06.6]} 72... Qc7+ {[%clk 0:07:15.9]} 73. Ka8 {[%clk 0:02:16.5]}
73... Qa7# {[%clk 0:07:24.4]} 0-1[/pgn]

[Chessqueen]

3rd game, GM Jorden van Foreest beat Stockfish !!!!!!

[pgn][Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.06.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "stockfish"]
[Black "joppie2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PP1PPP1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2919"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[EndTime "10:15:02 PDT"]
[Termination "joppie2 won by checkmate"]

1. d4 {[%clk 0:30:03.5]} 1... d5 {[%clk 0:30:04.4]} 2. Bg2 {[%clk 0:30:08.5]}
2... Nf6 {[%clk 0:29:57.6]} 3. Nf3 {[%clk 0:29:28.5]} 3... c6 {[%clk 0:29:40.6]}
4. Bf4 {[%clk 0:27:17.8]} 4... g6 {[%clk 0:29:32.8]} 5. O-O {[%clk 0:26:21.6]}
5... Bg7 {[%clk 0:29:35.2]} 6. Nc3 {[%clk 0:26:08.8]} 6... O-O {[%clk
0:29:32.2]} 7. Re1 {[%clk 0:25:02]} 7... Bg4 {[%clk 0:28:49.7]} 8. h3 {[%clk
0:24:09.3]} 8... Bxf3 {[%clk 0:27:43.6]} 9. Bxf3 {[%clk 0:24:02.6]} 9... Nbd7
{[%clk 0:27:50.9]} 10. Qd2 {[%clk 0:21:02.1]} 10... Re8 {[%clk 0:27:36.6]} 11.
Rad1 {[%clk 0:20:28.9]} 11... e5 {[%clk 0:26:21.8]} 12. dxe5 {[%clk 0:20:19]}
12... Nxe5 {[%clk 0:26:29]} 13. Bxe5 {[%clk 0:20:09.3]} 13... Rxe5 {[%clk
0:26:34.4]} 14. e4 {[%clk 0:19:31.8]} 14... Qd7 {[%clk 0:24:05.8]} 15. Bg2
{[%clk 0:19:20.1]} 15... Rae8 {[%clk 0:22:05.3]} 16. Kf1 {[%clk 0:18:42.7]}
16... Nh5 {[%clk 0:19:27]} 17. exd5 {[%clk 0:18:29]} 17... Rxe1+ {[%clk
0:19:28.1]} 18. Rxe1 {[%clk 0:17:32.4]} 18... Rxe1+ {[%clk 0:19:34.7]} 19. Kxe1
{[%clk 0:16:43.1]} 19... Bxc3 {[%clk 0:18:29.6]} 20. bxc3 {[%clk 0:16:19.6]}
20... cxd5 {[%clk 0:18:35.2]} 21. Bxd5 {[%clk 0:15:51.4]} 21... b6 {[%clk
0:17:55]} 22. Bg2 {[%clk 0:15:38.8]} 22... Qf5 {[%clk 0:16:53.4]} 23. Qd8+
{[%clk 0:13:18.8]} 23... Kg7 {[%clk 0:17:00.5]} 24. Qd4+ {[%clk 0:12:37]} 24...
Qf6 {[%clk 0:16:49.5]} 25. Bf1 {[%clk 0:12:14.9]} 25... Nf4 {[%clk 0:16:31.6]}
26. Kd2 {[%clk 0:09:44.8]} 26... Ne6 {[%clk 0:15:59.7]} 27. Qe3 {[%clk
0:09:28.6]} 27... Qd8+ {[%clk 0:14:35.1]} 28. Kc1 {[%clk 0:08:39.9]} 28... Qd5
{[%clk 0:14:37]} 29. Kb2 {[%clk 0:08:03]} 29... h5 {[%clk 0:14:05.8]} 30. f3
{[%clk 0:05:44.6]} 30... Kf6 {[%clk 0:13:32.3]} 31. Qf2 {[%clk 0:05:02.3]} 31...
Qe5 {[%clk 0:12:30.2]} 32. Bc4 {[%clk 0:04:57.8]} 32... Nc5 {[%clk 0:10:30.3]}
33. Qd2 {[%clk 0:03:53.1]} 33... Kg7 {[%clk 0:10:16.1]} 34. a3 {[%clk
0:01:41.2]} 34... h4 {[%clk 0:09:47.5]} 35. Qc2 {[%clk 0:01:32.1]} 35... Qe3
{[%clk 0:07:40.3]} 36. Qd1 {[%clk 0:01:06]} 36... Qf4 {[%clk 0:07:01.3]} 37. Qe2
{[%clk 0:01:03.9]} 37... Nd7 {[%clk 0:06:40.9]} 38. Bb3 {[%clk 0:01:07.7]} 38...
Ne5 {[%clk 0:06:19.3]} 39. Bd1 {[%clk 0:01:00]} 39... Qe3 {[%clk 0:05:18.9]} 40.
Kb3 {[%clk 0:00:55.3]} 40... Qxe2 {[%clk 0:05:19.9]} 41. Bxe2 {[%clk 0:00:52.6]}
41... g5 {[%clk 0:05:09.9]} 42. Kc2 {[%clk 0:00:50]} 42... Kf6 {[%clk
0:05:09.2]} 43. Kd2 {[%clk 0:00:46.7]} 43... Ng6 {[%clk 0:05:17.4]} 44. Bf1
{[%clk 0:00:36.6]} 44... Ke5 {[%clk 0:05:24.7]} 45. Ke2 {[%clk 0:00:21.4]} 45...
Nf4+ {[%clk 0:05:19.1]} 46. Kd2 {[%clk 0:00:14.3]} 46... f6 {[%clk 0:05:24.1]}
47. Kc2 {[%clk 0:00:15.5]} 47... Nd5 {[%clk 0:04:48.9]} 48. Ba6 {[%clk
0:00:13.1]} 48... Kf4 {[%clk 0:04:32.9]} 49. Bb7 {[%clk 0:00:19.1]} 49... Ne7
{[%clk 0:04:29.9]} 50. Ba6 {[%clk 0:00:13.8]} 50... Kxf3 {[%clk 0:04:34.1]} 51.
Kb3 {[%clk 0:00:12.7]} 51... f5 {[%clk 0:04:39.9]} 52. Kc4 {[%clk 0:00:14.2]}
52... g4 {[%clk 0:04:36.6]} 53. Kd4 {[%clk 0:00:16.9]} 53... g3 {[%clk
0:04:40.8]} 54. Bb7+ {[%clk 0:00:23.8]} 54... Kf2 {[%clk 0:04:49.3]} 55. a4
{[%clk 0:00:29.1]} 55... f4 {[%clk 0:04:55.1]} 56. Ke5 {[%clk 0:00:15.8]} 56...
f3 {[%clk 0:05:02.6]} 57. a5 {[%clk 0:00:22.4]} 57... g2 {[%clk 0:05:09.6]} 58.
axb6 {[%clk 0:00:28.6]} 58... axb6 {[%clk 0:05:19.5]} 59. c4 {[%clk 0:00:36.2]}
59... g1=Q {[%clk 0:05:27.3]} 60. Ke6 {[%clk 0:00:43.3]} 60... Qg5 {[%clk
0:05:34.2]} 61. c5 {[%clk 0:00:50]} 61... Qxc5 {[%clk 0:05:42.2]} 62. Ba6 {[%clk
0:00:56.1]} 62... Ke3 {[%clk 0:05:51]} 63. Bf1 {[%clk 0:01:01.6]} 63... Nf5
{[%clk 0:05:58.1]} 64. Ba6 {[%clk 0:01:06.8]} 64... Kf4 {[%clk 0:06:06.9]} 65.
Kd7 {[%clk 0:01:11.5]} 65... Qd6+ {[%clk 0:06:15.8]} 66. Kc8 {[%clk 0:01:16]}
66... Qe7 {[%clk 0:06:24.8]} 67. Kb8 {[%clk 0:01:24.7]} 67... Ke5 {[%clk
0:06:32.9]} 68. Ka8 {[%clk 0:01:28]} 68... Kd6 {[%clk 0:06:41.6]} 69. Kb8 {[%clk
0:01:37.3]} 69... b5 {[%clk 0:06:49.9]} 70. Bb7 {[%clk 0:01:47]} 70... Kc5
{[%clk 0:06:58.5]} 71. Bc8 {[%clk 0:01:56.8]} 71... Kb6 {[%clk 0:07:07.4]} 72.
Ba6 {[%clk 0:02:06.6]} 72... Qc7+ {[%clk 0:07:15.9]} 73. Ka8 {[%clk 0:02:16.5]}
73... Qa7# {[%clk 0:07:24.4]} 0-1[/pgn]

Thanks for posting all the games

[lkaufman]

3rd game, GM Jorden van Foreest beat Stockfish !!!!!!

[pgn][Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.06.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "stockfish"]
[Black "joppie2"]
[Result "0-1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PP1PPP1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -"]
[ECO "D00"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2919"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[EndTime "10:15:02 PDT"]
[Termination "joppie2 won by checkmate"]

1. d4 {[%clk 0:30:03.5]} 1... d5 {[%clk 0:30:04.4]} 2. Bg2 {[%clk 0:30:08.5]}
2... Nf6 {[%clk 0:29:57.6]} 3. Nf3 {[%clk 0:29:28.5]} 3... c6 {[%clk 0:29:40.6]}
4. Bf4 {[%clk 0:27:17.8]} 4... g6 {[%clk 0:29:32.8]} 5. O-O {[%clk 0:26:21.6]}
5... Bg7 {[%clk 0:29:35.2]} 6. Nc3 {[%clk 0:26:08.8]} 6... O-O {[%clk
0:29:32.2]} 7. Re1 {[%clk 0:25:02]} 7... Bg4 {[%clk 0:28:49.7]} 8. h3 {[%clk
0:24:09.3]} 8... Bxf3 {[%clk 0:27:43.6]} 9. Bxf3 {[%clk 0:24:02.6]} 9... Nbd7
{[%clk 0:27:50.9]} 10. Qd2 {[%clk 0:21:02.1]} 10... Re8 {[%clk 0:27:36.6]} 11.
Rad1 {[%clk 0:20:28.9]} 11... e5 {[%clk 0:26:21.8]} 12. dxe5 {[%clk 0:20:19]}
12... Nxe5 {[%clk 0:26:29]} 13. Bxe5 {[%clk 0:20:09.3]} 13... Rxe5 {[%clk
0:26:34.4]} 14. e4 {[%clk 0:19:31.8]} 14... Qd7 {[%clk 0:24:05.8]} 15. Bg2
{[%clk 0:19:20.1]} 15... Rae8 {[%clk 0:22:05.3]} 16. Kf1 {[%clk 0:18:42.7]}
16... Nh5 {[%clk 0:19:27]} 17. exd5 {[%clk 0:18:29]} 17... Rxe1+ {[%clk
0:19:28.1]} 18. Rxe1 {[%clk 0:17:32.4]} 18... Rxe1+ {[%clk 0:19:34.7]} 19. Kxe1
{[%clk 0:16:43.1]} 19... Bxc3 {[%clk 0:18:29.6]} 20. bxc3 {[%clk 0:16:19.6]}
20... cxd5 {[%clk 0:18:35.2]} 21. Bxd5 {[%clk 0:15:51.4]} 21... b6 {[%clk
0:17:55]} 22. Bg2 {[%clk 0:15:38.8]} 22... Qf5 {[%clk 0:16:53.4]} 23. Qd8+
{[%clk 0:13:18.8]} 23... Kg7 {[%clk 0:17:00.5]} 24. Qd4+ {[%clk 0:12:37]} 24...
Qf6 {[%clk 0:16:49.5]} 25. Bf1 {[%clk 0:12:14.9]} 25... Nf4 {[%clk 0:16:31.6]}
26. Kd2 {[%clk 0:09:44.8]} 26... Ne6 {[%clk 0:15:59.7]} 27. Qe3 {[%clk
0:09:28.6]} 27... Qd8+ {[%clk 0:14:35.1]} 28. Kc1 {[%clk 0:08:39.9]} 28... Qd5
{[%clk 0:14:37]} 29. Kb2 {[%clk 0:08:03]} 29... h5 {[%clk 0:14:05.8]} 30. f3
{[%clk 0:05:44.6]} 30... Kf6 {[%clk 0:13:32.3]} 31. Qf2 {[%clk 0:05:02.3]} 31...
Qe5 {[%clk 0:12:30.2]} 32. Bc4 {[%clk 0:04:57.8]} 32... Nc5 {[%clk 0:10:30.3]}
33. Qd2 {[%clk 0:03:53.1]} 33... Kg7 {[%clk 0:10:16.1]} 34. a3 {[%clk
0:01:41.2]} 34... h4 {[%clk 0:09:47.5]} 35. Qc2 {[%clk 0:01:32.1]} 35... Qe3
{[%clk 0:07:40.3]} 36. Qd1 {[%clk 0:01:06]} 36... Qf4 {[%clk 0:07:01.3]} 37. Qe2
{[%clk 0:01:03.9]} 37... Nd7 {[%clk 0:06:40.9]} 38. Bb3 {[%clk 0:01:07.7]} 38...
Ne5 {[%clk 0:06:19.3]} 39. Bd1 {[%clk 0:01:00]} 39... Qe3 {[%clk 0:05:18.9]} 40.
Kb3 {[%clk 0:00:55.3]} 40... Qxe2 {[%clk 0:05:19.9]} 41. Bxe2 {[%clk 0:00:52.6]}
41... g5 {[%clk 0:05:09.9]} 42. Kc2 {[%clk 0:00:50]} 42... Kf6 {[%clk
0:05:09.2]} 43. Kd2 {[%clk 0:00:46.7]} 43... Ng6 {[%clk 0:05:17.4]} 44. Bf1
{[%clk 0:00:36.6]} 44... Ke5 {[%clk 0:05:24.7]} 45. Ke2 {[%clk 0:00:21.4]} 45...
Nf4+ {[%clk 0:05:19.1]} 46. Kd2 {[%clk 0:00:14.3]} 46... f6 {[%clk 0:05:24.1]}
47. Kc2 {[%clk 0:00:15.5]} 47... Nd5 {[%clk 0:04:48.9]} 48. Ba6 {[%clk
0:00:13.1]} 48... Kf4 {[%clk 0:04:32.9]} 49. Bb7 {[%clk 0:00:19.1]} 49... Ne7
{[%clk 0:04:29.9]} 50. Ba6 {[%clk 0:00:13.8]} 50... Kxf3 {[%clk 0:04:34.1]} 51.
Kb3 {[%clk 0:00:12.7]} 51... f5 {[%clk 0:04:39.9]} 52. Kc4 {[%clk 0:00:14.2]}
52... g4 {[%clk 0:04:36.6]} 53. Kd4 {[%clk 0:00:16.9]} 53... g3 {[%clk
0:04:40.8]} 54. Bb7+ {[%clk 0:00:23.8]} 54... Kf2 {[%clk 0:04:49.3]} 55. a4
{[%clk 0:00:29.1]} 55... f4 {[%clk 0:04:55.1]} 56. Ke5 {[%clk 0:00:15.8]} 56...
f3 {[%clk 0:05:02.6]} 57. a5 {[%clk 0:00:22.4]} 57... g2 {[%clk 0:05:09.6]} 58.
axb6 {[%clk 0:00:28.6]} 58... axb6 {[%clk 0:05:19.5]} 59. c4 {[%clk 0:00:36.2]}
59... g1=Q {[%clk 0:05:27.3]} 60. Ke6 {[%clk 0:00:43.3]} 60... Qg5 {[%clk
0:05:34.2]} 61. c5 {[%clk 0:00:50]} 61... Qxc5 {[%clk 0:05:42.2]} 62. Ba6 {[%clk
0:00:56.1]} 62... Ke3 {[%clk 0:05:51]} 63. Bf1 {[%clk 0:01:01.6]} 63... Nf5
{[%clk 0:05:58.1]} 64. Ba6 {[%clk 0:01:06.8]} 64... Kf4 {[%clk 0:06:06.9]} 65.
Kd7 {[%clk 0:01:11.5]} 65... Qd6+ {[%clk 0:06:15.8]} 66. Kc8 {[%clk 0:01:16]}
66... Qe7 {[%clk 0:06:24.8]} 67. Kb8 {[%clk 0:01:24.7]} 67... Ke5 {[%clk
0:06:32.9]} 68. Ka8 {[%clk 0:01:28]} 68... Kd6 {[%clk 0:06:41.6]} 69. Kb8 {[%clk
0:01:37.3]} 69... b5 {[%clk 0:06:49.9]} 70. Bb7 {[%clk 0:01:47]} 70... Kc5
{[%clk 0:06:58.5]} 71. Bc8 {[%clk 0:01:56.8]} 71... Kb6 {[%clk 0:07:07.4]} 72.
Ba6 {[%clk 0:02:06.6]} 72... Qc7+ {[%clk 0:07:15.9]} 73. Ka8 {[%clk 0:02:16.5]}
73... Qa7# {[%clk 0:07:24.4]} 0-1[/pgn]

Yes, it was a nice victory (worth $20,000 I'm told), but why all the !!!? Two pawns including f2 or g2 is a huge handicap, and at this fairly slow time control a 2700 level GM should be favored at it, regardless of what absurd "odds" the sponsor might have given. Komodo did go 2-0 at the same two handicaps as in the last two games of this match against GM Izoria at an even slower time control about 3 years ago, although he was about 2600 FIDE. It does seem to me that two White pawns, one from each flank (b or c plus f or g) is the appropriate handicap for these matches. White is not only two pawns down, but also his king won't be so secure on either flank. We also drew with GM Lenderman 3 years ago at f2 + g2, which is probably even worse for White. Perhaps we'll have a chance to see whether Komodo can do better than Stockfish's 1/3 against a 2700 level GM soon.

[MonteCarlo]

Yeah, as I suspected the combination of 30+10, only having to win 1/10, and two pawns makes a 2700 a huge favorite. At two pawns would need to give a 2700 fewer games to try to win and/or shorten the TC.

If I had a lot of money to throw around I'd put up a prize for something similar against some late T10 net so we'd complete the trifecta. Alas, I don't have the sort of money to tempt these guys

[lkaufman]

Yeah, as I suspected the combination of 30+10, only having to win 1/10, and two pawns makes a 2700 a huge favorite. At two pawns would need to give a 2700 fewer games to try to win and/or shorten the TC.

If I had a lot of money to throw around I'd put up a prize for something similar against some late T10 net so we'd complete the trifecta. Alas, I don't have the sort of money to tempt these guys

Actually, it looks to me like the T70/71 nets will be just as good as or better than the T10 nets at handicap play, because they apparently stopped resigning their training games early. The PVs and evals for handicap positions look fine now. Although I think that Komodo MCTS is better than Stockfish in handicap play vs. humans, T70/71 might turn out to be even better with a powerful GPU. In any case any future events should be based on who wins the match or on the score, not on winning a single game, which is relatively easy if the handicap is at all fair.

[Chessqueen]

Yeah, as I suspected the combination of 30+10, only having to win 1/10, and two pawns makes a 2700 a huge favorite. At two pawns would need to give a 2700 fewer games to try to win and/or shorten the TC.

If I had a lot of money to throw around I'd put up a prize for something similar against some late T10 net so we'd complete the trifecta. Alas, I don't have the sort of money to tempt these guys

Actually, it looks to me like the T70/71 nets will be just as good as or better than the T10 nets at handicap play, because they apparently stopped resigning their training games early. The PVs and evals for handicap positions look fine now. Although I think that Komodo MCTS is better than Stockfish in handicap play vs. humans, T70/71 might turn out to be even better with a powerful GPU. In any case any future events should be based on who wins the match or on the score, not on winning a single game, which is relatively easy if the handicap is at all fair.

[pgn][Event "Live Chess - Odds Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2020.06.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "stockfish"]
[Black "joppie2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/P1PPPP1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -"]
[ECO "A15"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2919"]
[TimeControl "1800+10"]
[EndTime "8:13:35 PDT"]
[Termination "Game drawn by repetition"]

1. c4 {[%clk 0:30:03.6]} 1... Nf6 {[%clk 0:30:03]} 2. Bg2 {[%clk 0:30:08.6]}
2... g6 {[%clk 0:30:11.1]} 3. Nc3 {[%clk 0:29:34.9]} 3... Bg7 {[%clk 0:30:15.8]}
4. Rb1 {[%clk 0:29:07.3]} 4... O-O {[%clk 0:30:17.5]} 5. Bxb7 {[%clk 0:28:58.5]}
5... Bxb7 {[%clk 0:30:23.7]} 6. Rxb7 {[%clk 0:28:19.7]} 6... Qc8 {[%clk
0:30:29.2]} 7. Rb1 {[%clk 0:26:57.8]} 7... c5 {[%clk 0:30:29.4]} 8. d3 {[%clk
0:24:58.1]} 8... Nc6 {[%clk 0:30:27.6]} 9. Nf3 {[%clk 0:24:44.2]} 9... d6 {[%clk
0:30:30.1]} 10. O-O {[%clk 0:24:16.7]} 10... Qg4+ {[%clk 0:30:34.4]} 11. Kh1
{[%clk 0:24:26.6]} 11... Rab8 {[%clk 0:30:41.7]} 12. Rb5 {[%clk 0:20:46.1]}
12... a6 {[%clk 0:28:09.4]} 13. Rxb8 {[%clk 0:19:56.5]} 13... Rxb8 {[%clk
0:28:13.7]} 14. Ng1 {[%clk 0:18:48.4]} 14... Qd7 {[%clk 0:26:04.1]} 15. Qa4
{[%clk 0:17:22.9]} 15... Nb4 {[%clk 0:24:00.7]} 16. Qb3 {[%clk 0:16:44.4]} 16...
Qb7+ {[%clk 0:21:40.4]} 17. f3 {[%clk 0:16:39.4]} 17... Nc6 {[%clk 0:19:12.7]}
18. Qa4 {[%clk 0:14:14]} 18... Nh5 {[%clk 0:18:12.6]} 19. Bd2 {[%clk 0:14:10.9]}
19... Bxc3 {[%clk 0:17:11.1]} 20. Bxc3 {[%clk 0:13:49.9]} 20... Nf4 {[%clk
0:17:18.1]} 21. Qd1 {[%clk 0:12:38.6]} 21... e5 {[%clk 0:16:58.9]} 22. e3 {[%clk
0:12:23.5]} 22... Ne6 {[%clk 0:17:03.3]} 23. Ne2 {[%clk 0:12:13.4]} 23... Ne7
{[%clk 0:14:40.5]} 24. Ng3 {[%clk 0:11:49.4]} 24... f5 {[%clk 0:13:08.7]} 25.
Qe1 {[%clk 0:06:52.9]} 25... Kf7 {[%clk 0:11:17]} 26. Ne2 {[%clk 0:06:12.7]}
26... Qc6 {[%clk 0:09:56.4]} 27. Qh4 {[%clk 0:06:13.6]} 27... h5 {[%clk
0:09:53.9]} 28. Nf4 {[%clk 0:05:59.6]} 28... Nf8 {[%clk 0:07:54.9]} 29. Nh3
{[%clk 0:05:51.5]} 29... Qa4 {[%clk 0:07:24.7]} 30. Ng5+ {[%clk 0:05:47.3]}
30... Ke8 {[%clk 0:07:23.8]} 31. Qf2 {[%clk 0:05:43.2]} 31... Kd7 {[%clk
0:05:13.6]} 32. f4 {[%clk 0:05:38.2]} 32... e4 {[%clk 0:05:19.7]} 33. Qd2 {[%clk
0:05:32.9]} 33... Ne6 {[%clk 0:05:12.8]} 34. Nh7 {[%clk 0:05:17]} 34... Ng8
{[%clk 0:04:19.7]} 35. Kg1 {[%clk 0:05:13.9]} 35... exd3 {[%clk 0:03:20.4]} 36.
Qxd3 {[%clk 0:05:10]} 36... Qxa2 {[%clk 0:03:13.6]} 37. Rd1 {[%clk 0:05:04.2]}
37... Rb6 {[%clk 0:03:20.8]} 38. Be5 {[%clk 0:05:01.1]} 38... Qb3 {[%clk
0:02:35.6]} 39. Qxb3 {[%clk 0:04:50.4]} 39... Rxb3 {[%clk 0:02:45.5]} 40. Rxd6+
{[%clk 0:04:39.1]} 40... Ke7 {[%clk 0:02:53.7]} 41. Rxa6 {[%clk 0:04:22.2]}
41... Rxe3 {[%clk 0:03:00.5]} 42. Ra7+ {[%clk 0:03:33.5]} 42... Ke8 {[%clk
0:03:07.8]} 43. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:02:39.2]} 43... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:15.6]} 44. Ra7+
{[%clk 0:02:30.1]} 44... Ke8 {[%clk 0:03:23.4]} 45. Ra6 {[%clk 0:02:21.2]} 45...
Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:11.6]} 46. Kf2 {[%clk 0:02:12]} 46... Re4 {[%clk 0:03:11.6]} 47.
Ra7+ {[%clk 0:01:12.2]} 47... Ke8 {[%clk 0:03:19.6]} 48. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:01:18]}
48... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:27.8]} 49. Ra7+ {[%clk 0:00:31.2]} 49... Ke8 {[%clk
0:03:34.7]} 50. Ra8+ {[%clk 0:00:34.1]} 50... Kf7 {[%clk 0:03:40.5]} 51. Ra7+
{[%clk 0:00:16.8]} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

Komodo at the same TC that stockfish played vs GM Foreest should beat GM Forrest if he is willing to take a smaller amount of $Money, even a reasonable amount like $2,500.00, if he wins at least 2 games with either the b2, c2 or d2, plus the f2 and g7 pawns combined removed, but if he Manage to win at least 1 game out of the 6 games, he should win at least $1,500.00. Honestly this is NOT a bad offer to make to a FIDE 2660+ for a couple of hours to play versus an Engines. Thre games to be played on any Saturday followed by the other three games the next Sunday. The 6 positions should be something like this for instance ..........

1 st game b2 + f2 odds
2nd game b2 + g2 odds
3rd game c2 + f2 odds
4th game c2 + g2 odds
5th game d2+ f2 odds
6th game d2+ g2 odds