ProDeo 3.0 has Arrived!

[Peter Berger]

Hi,
I can't get it to ponder during opponent's time... any tip about? Of course UCI option is enabled (using Arena).
Thks & regards

I think it does ponder in general, but once it doesn't get a ponderhit, it is likely to not ponder again in a given game (sth to look at I assume). At least ponder doesn't work as you'd expect it to.

I want to comment on sth else. I used to be into WinBoard engines in the old times and knew how to set them up, not anymore. Setup-wise ProDeo is one of the most complicated engines imagineable using Polyglot, using WB2Uci, ini-files, you name it. But once I figured out what to do with a .7z file ( and even I managed to get that one fast), the rest was a piece of cake as I had to do zilch. It just had optimable settings everywhere as default and behaved just like your ordinary UCI engine - I was impressed.

[AdminX]

Here is one nice attacking game vs Chess Tiger 2007. Time Control set to 30 minutes.

[pgn]
[Event "30 Minutes/Game"]
[Site "Engine Match"]
[Date "2020.11.17"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Chess Tiger 2007"]
[Black "ProDeo 3.0"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D36"]
[PlyCount "150"]
[EventDate "2020.??.??"]

1. d4 {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 2. c4 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s} 3. Nc3 {book 0s} d5
{book 0s} 4. cxd5 {book 0s} exd5 {book 0s} 5. Bg5 {book 0s} Nbd7 {book 0s} 6.
Qc2 {book 0s} c6 {book 0s} 7. e3 {book 0s} Be7 {book 0s} 8. Nf3 {book 0s} O-O {
book 0s} 9. Bd3 {book 0s} Re8 {book 0s} 10. O-O {book 0s} g6 {book 0s} 11. Bf4
{0.74/18 64} Nb6 {0.00/17 33 (Nf8)} 12. a4 {0.76/19 42 (Rac1)} Nh5 {0.05/18 44}
13. Bh6 {0.24/19 32 (b3)} a5 {-0.17/18 39} 14. b3 {0.18/18 41 (Rfe1)} Ng7 {
-0.17/18 28} 15. Ne2 {0.10/19 23} Bb4 {-0.26/19 25 (Bf5)} 16. Ng3 {0.36/18 26
(Rfc1)} Qe7 {-0.19/18 35 (Bd6)} 17. Bg5 {0.18/17 22 (Rfc1)} f6 {-0.28/18 30
(Qf8)} 18. Bh6 {0.26/19 26} Bd6 {-0.19/18 15 (Bg4)} 19. Rfc1 {0.32/19 44} Bd7 {
-0.25/19 0 (Bxg3)} 20. Nh4 {0.30/19 30 (Nd2)} Rac8 {-0.07/18 32 (Bg4)} 21. Ne2
{0.56/19 85} c5 {-0.15/21 0 (Bg4)} 22. dxc5 {0.98/19 26} Bxc5 {-0.01/18 0
(Rxc5)} 23. Qd2 {0.98/18 27 (Qd1)} Bb4 {-0.01/19 27} 24. Qd1 {0.99/21 26} Ne6 {
0.00/20 0 (Bg4)} 25. Nxg6 {1.84/20 21 (Nf3)} hxg6 {-0.54/15 3} 26. Bxg6 {
1.80/20 19} Red8 {-0.18/20 27 (Rxc1)} 27. Ng3 {2.84/21 24} Ng7 {-0.25/20 0} 28.
Qd4 {2.50/20 61} Rc5 {-0.18/20 0 (Rxc1+)} 29. Qh4 {2.90/18 30} Bc3 {-0.13/18 4}
30. e4 {3.22/18 18 (Rab1)} Bxa1 {0.51/17 41} 31. Rxc5 {4.40/17 0} Be6 {0.85/17
40} 32. Rb5 {4.96/18 19 (Rxa5)} Nd7 {1.65/18 63 (Be5)} 33. Rxb7 {5.34/19 80}
dxe4 {2.76/20 0} 34. Be3 {6.68/18 19 (Bd2)} Qd6 {1.56/18 22 (Ne8)} 35. Qh7+ {
6.36/16 62} Kf8 {1.01/19 0} 36. b4 {5.96/16 50 (Qh8+)} axb4 {0.35/18 39 (Bg8)}
37. Qh6 {5.50/16 29 (Qh8+)} f5 {0.35/17 50 (Qd1+)} 38. Bh5 {3.12/16 38 (h3)}
Bf6 {-0.58/17 30 (Kg8)} 39. Bd2 {3.04/16 14} Rb8 {-0.86/18 12 (Kg8)} 40. Bxb4 {
0.77/19 67 (Rxb8+)} Qxb4 {-1.06/18 16} 41. Rxb4 {0.85/19 25} Rxb4 {-1.32/20 0}
42. h3 {0.61/19 19 (Bd1)} Rxa4 {-1.10/18 18} 43. Bg6 {-0.03/19 2 (Ne2)} Ra1+ {
-1.47/19 21 (Ke7)} 44. Kh2 {-0.21/19 19} Be5 {-1.44/20 0 (Ke7)} 45. Qh4 {
-0.05/20 27} Nf6 {-1.38/20 7 (Kg8)} 46. Qh6 {-0.60/19 63 (f4)} Ra2 {-2.17/19 17
} 47. Kg1 {-0.82/19 0} Ng8 {-2.11/19 19} 48. Qg5 {-1.64/21 118 (Qe3)} Ne7 {
-2.65/19 21} 49. Bh5 {-1.68/19 57} Bc4 {-2.88/21 0 (Bd5)} 50. Bg6 {-1.18/17 10
(h4)} Bd5 {-3.15/19 27 (Nxg6)} 51. Nf1 {-3.62/17 19 (Bh7)} Ra1 {-4.63/21 21
(e3)} 52. Qd2 {-4.30/19 9} e3 {-4.82/21 4} 53. Qxe3 {-5.35/19 9 (fxe3)} Nxg6 {
-4.87/18 4} 54. Qc5+ {-6.56/19 72 (Qd2)} Ne7 {-6.17/20 20} 55. Qe3 {-7.43/20 14
} Bf6 {-6.09/21 2} 56. Qe2 {-7.84/20 4 (Qb6)} Ne6 {-7.16/19 17 (Bb7)} 57. h4 {
-7.55/19 6 (f3)} Nf4 {-8.71/19 14 (Nd4)} 58. Qd2 {-10.24/17 5 (Qb5)} Nxg2 {
-10.09/20 24} 59. h5 {-12.12/18 0 (Qh6+)} Ne1 {-10.03/19 12 (Be5)} 60. Qh6+ {
-14.25/16 6} Kf7 {-11.92/19 8} 61. Qe3 {-14.62/17 0} Nf3+ {-14.71/20 29} 62.
Kg2 {-17.09/17 0} Nd2+ {-13.07/18 12 (Nd4+)} 63. Kh3 {-19.96/17 5 (f3)} Rxf1 {
-13.73/17 5 (Nxf1)} 64. Qxd2 {-21.06/16 35} Be5 {-21.10/19 21} 65. f4 {-25.88/
19 30} Bxf4 {7 -M-1368/18} 66. Qxf4 {-26.28/17 0} Rxf4 {0 -M-1370/15} 67. Kg3 {
-#5/14 3} Ra4 {0 -M-1372/12 (Rf1)} 68. Kf2 {-#8/13 3} f4 {0 -M-1373/10} 69. Ke2
{-#7/11 1} f3+ {0 -M-1373/8} 70. Ke3 {-#5/10 0 (Ke1)} Nf5+ {0 -M-1377/6} 71.
Kd3 {-#4/10 2 (Kd2)} f2 {0 -M-1378/3} 72. h6 {-#3/9 0 (Kc3)} f1=Q+ {0 -M-1379/1
} 73. Kc3 {-#2/7 3} Qc4+ {0 -M-1380/1 (Ra2)} 74. Kd2 {-#2/1 0} Ra2+ {0 -M-1381/
1} 75. Ke1 {-#1/59 0} Qe2# {0 -M-1382/1} 0-1
[/pgn]

[Peter Berger]

Hi,
I can't get it to ponder during opponent's time... any tip about? Of course UCI option is enabled (using Arena).
Thks & regards

You have to edit the *.eng (ProDeo.eng) located in the subdirectory called 'personal'. Edit the [Permanent Brain = off] section to on.

I am impressed by this kind of detective work.

[Tibono]

Indeed, well done.
Thanks, it worked like a charm.
And I did previously check the ProDeo.eng file, but nope, I searched for the keyword "ponder" ...
Thanks again

[mclane]

[pgn][Event "I7_7500U"]
[Site "ORION8"]
[Date "2020.11.17"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Prodeo3"]
[Black "Stockfish_nnue.2020-07-19 [t2,sergio]"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D44"]
[Opening "Damengambit (Botwinnik-Variante), Hauptvariante, 12.g3 c5 13.d5 Qb6"]
[Time "22:18:07"]
[Variation "Botvinnik (Anti-Meran)"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "40/300:40/300:40/300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "131"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. d4 {0.00/1 0} Nf6 2. c4 {0.00/1 0} e6 3. Nf3 {0.00/1 0} d5 4. Nc3
{0.00/1 0} c6 5. Bg5 {0.00/1 0} dxc4 6. e4 {0.00/1 0} b5 7. e5 {0.00/1 0}
h6 8. Bh4 {0.00/1 0} g5 9. Nxg5 {0.00/1 0} hxg5 10. Bxg5 {0.00/1 0} Nbd7
{-0.17/25 16} 11. exf6 {0.00/1 0} Bb7 {-0.22/24 5} 12. g3 {0.00/1 0} c5
{-0.38/26 29} 13. d5 {0.00/1 0} Nxf6 {-0.68/27 18} 14. Bg2 {0.00/1 0} Bh6
{-0.58/26 3} 15. Bxf6 {0.00/1 0} Qxf6 {-0.34/28 6} 16. O-O {0.00/1 0} Rd8
{-0.60/29 14} 17. Qe2 {+1.26/16 13} O-O {-0.29/29 0} 18. d6 {+0.92/17 19}
b4 {-0.67/30 0} 19. Bxb7 {+1.08/17 5} bxc3 {-0.41/31 5} 20. bxc3 {+1.06/18
15} Rd7 {-0.37/32 0} 21. Be4 {+1.33/18 16} Qxc3 {-0.34/29 7} 22. Qh5
{+1.28/18 22} Qf6 {-0.14/28 7} 23. Rad1 {+1.00/17 9} Rc8 {-0.15/29 0} 24.
Bc2 {+1.13/16 8} Qg5 {-0.13/27 0} 25. Qe2 {+0.82/17 10} Qd8 {-0.33/34 28}
26. Qxc4 {+0.79/18 0} Bg7 {-0.11/28 5} 27. Qe4 {+0.90/16 8} Rxd6 {-0.09/29
11} 28. Rxd6 {+0.55/15 0} Qxd6 {-0.10/30 6} 29. Rb1 {+0.63/16 5} Rb8
{-0.07/33 15} 30. Rxb8+ {+0.50/15 11} Qxb8 {0.00/34 0} 31. Bb3 {+0.21/16
10} Bd4 {0.00/37 7} 32. Kg2 {+0.28/16 5} Qb4 {-0.01/34 11} 33. Qg4+
{+0.26/16 0} Kf8 {0.00/34 8} 34. Qf4 {+0.21/16 1} Qb5 {0.00/38 15} 35. h4
{+0.32/16 16} a5 {0.00/39 0} 36. h5 {+0.39/16 13} a4 {0.00/38 15} 37. Bd1
{+0.46/18 0} Qb1 {0.00/40 13} 38. Qh6+ {+0.42/17 14} Kg8 {0.00/41 0} 39.
Qg5+ {+0.23/17 12} Kh8 {0.00/41 19} 40. Qd2 {+0.23/18 0} Qe4+ {0.00/41 10}
41. Kh2 {+0.21/16 0} Qf5 {0.00/37 10} 42. g4 {+0.27/18 19} Qd5 {0.00/32 6}
43. Qh6+ {+0.28/17 9} Kg8 {0.00/35 0} 44. Bc2 {+0.25/18 16} Be5+ {0.00/37
0} 45. Kg1 {+0.30/18 11} Bg7 {0.00/43 0} 46. Qh7+ {+0.30/17 6} Kf8 {0.00/43
0} 47. Qe4 {+0.14/17 11} Qxa2 {0.00/33 7} 48. Qxa4 {+0.18/16 8} Qxa4
{0.00/40 5} 49. Bxa4 {+0.31/19 1} Bh6 {0.00/44 5} 50. Kf1 {+0.25/20 2} c4
{0.00/42 7} 51. Ke2 {+0.20/21 14} Kg7 {0.00/50 0} 52. Kd1 {+0.20/20 7} Kf6
{0.00/44 7} 53. Kc2 {+0.25/20 9} Kg5 {0.00/54 7} 54. Be8 {+0.13/20 8} Kxg4
{0.00/55 9} 55. Bxf7 {+0.45/22 11} Bg7 {0.00/56 0} 56. Bxe6+ {+0.45/22 7}
Kxh5 {0.00/57 0} 57. Bxc4 {+0.45/23 12} Kg5 {0.00/59 0} 58. Kd3 {+0.45/22
11} Kf4 {0.00/62 0} 59. Bd5 {+0.45/22 7} Be5 {0.00/61 1} 60. f3 {+0.45/22
11} Bf6 {0.00/57 10} 61. Be4 {+0.45/22 0} Bh4 {0.00/57 10} 62. Kd4
{+0.45/21 8} Bg5 {0.00/58 19} 63. Kd5 {+0.45/21 8} Bh6 {0.00/61 10} 64. Kd6
{+0.45/21 9} Kg5 {0.00/56 10} 65. Ke5 {+0.45/21 8} Bg7+ {0.00/60 10} 66.
Kd5 {+0.45/23 0} ... {½-½ Benutzer Entscheidung} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[mclane]

[pgn][Event "I7_7500U"]
[Site "ORION8"]
[Date "2020.11.17"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Prodeo3"]
[Black "Wasp400-x64-modern [t2]"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B12"]
[Opening "Caro-Kann"]
[Time "23:22:25"]
[Variation "Vorstoß-Variante, 4.Nf3 e6 5.Be2 c5 6.O-O Ne7"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "40/300:40/300:40/300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "145"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 {0.00/1 0} c6 2. d4 {0.00/1 0} d5 3. e5 {0.00/1 0} Bf5 4. Nf3 {0.00/1
0} e6 5. Be2 {0.00/1 0} Ne7 6. O-O {0.00/1 0} Nd7 7. Nbd2 {0.00/1 0} h6 8.
Nb3 {0.00/1 0} Ng6 {-0.43/22 12} 9. Ne1 {0.00/1 0} h5 {-0.36/20 6} 10. Nd3
{0.00/1 0} h4 {-0.51/20 6} 11. Bg4 {+0.48/15 12} h3 {-0.56/22 11} 12. g3
{+0.41/17 1} Bxg4 {-0.60/22 6} 13. Qxg4 {+0.46/16 6} b6 {-0.60/22 7} 14.
Bg5 {+0.87/17 31} Be7 {-0.89/24 0} 15. Bxe7 {+0.74/18 14} Qxe7 {-0.81/22 7}
16. f4 {+0.83/17 3} c5 {-0.82/22 7} 17. f5 {+0.75/17 8} exf5 {-0.92/23 7}
18. Qxf5 {+0.61/17 7} O-O {-0.87/23 4} 19. Nf2 {+0.48/17 12} cxd4 {-0.04/22
8} 20. Rae1 {+0.29/18 0} Ndxe5 {+0.12/23 8} 21. Nxh3 {+0.07/17 0} Rae8
{0.00/25 11} 22. Qh5 {+0.28/17 3} f6 {0.00/26 5} 23. a3 {+0.17/18 4} Qe6
{+0.02/26 6} 24. Nxd4 {0.00/18 10} Qg4 {0.00/27 0} 25. Qxg4 {0.00/19 9}
Nxg4 {0.00/27 0} 26. Ne6 {0.00/19 8} Rf7 {+0.12/27 11} 27. Nf2 {-0.10/21 0}
Nxf2 {+0.13/26 11} 28. Kxf2 {-0.07/21 0} Ne5 {+0.06/26 11} 29. Nd4
{-0.13/21 4} Rc7 {+0.05/25 7} 30. Kg2 {+0.09/18 12} Ree7 {+0.05/25 1} 31.
b3 {0.00/19 12} Ng4 {0.00/27 3} 32. Rxe7 {0.00/19 4} Rxe7 {0.00/29 9} 33.
Kg1 {0.00/18 0} a6 {-0.01/28 14} 34. h3 {+0.17/20 12} Ne5 {-0.06/28 2} 35.
Re1 {+0.18/19 8} b5 {0.00/29 9} 36. g4 {+0.26/19 15} Rc7 {-0.04/28 19} 37.
Re3 {+0.16/19 11} Kf7 {0.00/30 6} 38. Kh2 {+0.16/19 7} Rc8 {0.00/30 22} 39.
Kg3 {+0.23/18 8} g5 {0.00/31 15} 40. Kf2 {+0.20/21 0} Kf8 {0.00/31 16} 41.
Ke2 {+0.17/20 12} Ke7 {0.00/27 5} 42. Nf5+ {+0.18/19 3} Kd7 {0.00/27 5} 43.
Kd1 {+0.18/18 2} Rh8 {0.00/28 5} 44. Nd4 {+0.21/18 5} Kc7 {0.00/27 5} 45.
Kd2 {+0.13/18 11} Rh6 {0.00/28 0} 46. Kc3 {+0.15/19 12} Rh7 {0.00/29 0} 47.
Nf5 {+0.19/19 10} Kb6 {0.00/30 0} 48. Kd4 {+0.16/20 11} Rd7 {0.00/29 0} 49.
b4 {+0.16/19 9} Nc6+ {0.00/26 5} 50. Kd3 {+0.10/19 2} Ne5+ {0.00/29 2} 51.
Kc3 {+0.13/18 9} a5 {0.00/25 6} 52. bxa5+ {+0.11/19 21} Kxa5 {0.00/26 6}
53. Kd4 {+0.01/19 0} Kb6 {+0.01/27 5} 54. Rb3 {+0.10/18 0} Nc6+ {0.00/27 5}
55. Kd3 {+0.03/19 3} Rh7 {+0.09/27 12} 56. Ke2 {+0.08/20 0} Ra7 {+0.12/26
14} 57. Kf2 {0.00/19 11} Na5 {+0.11/25 12} 58. Rd3 {0.00/22 0} Nc4 {0.00/25
9} 59. Ne3 {+0.09/19 9} d4 {+0.02/26 8} 60. Rxd4 {0.00/20 2} Nxe3 {0.00/28
4} 61. Kxe3 {0.00/19 0} Rxa3+ {0.00/29 7} 62. Ke4 {+0.03/19 1} Rxh3
{+0.10/27 8} 63. Rd6+ {0.00/21 9} Ka5 {+0.06/29 0} 64. Rxf6 {0.00/21 10}
Rg3 {0.00/28 1} 65. Kf5 {0.00/20 9} Rc3 {0.00/31 0} 66. Kxg5 {0.00/18 10}
Rxc2 {0.00/31 0} 67. Rf1 {0.00/19 8} b4 {0.00/31 2} 68. Kf6 {0.00/18 4} b3
{0.00/32 7} 69. g5 {0.00/20 13} Rc6+ {0.00/31 0} 70. Kf7 {0.00/18 9} Kb4
{0.00/30 5} 71. g6 {0.00/18 8} Rc7+ {0.00/31 7} 72. Kf6 {0.00/19 2} Rc6+
{0.00/31 14} 73. Kg5 {0.00/20 0} ... {½-½ Benutzer Entscheidung} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

[Dann Corbit]

Happy news.
With 10,000 new deaths yesterday, we can use it.

We push little wooden horsies around on cardboard squares.
Yes, it is a lot of fun.
But tragedy is afoot. Please keep safe everyone.

[koolaidsa]

Is there any version of prodeo with multipv?