M1 Apple Silicon for Chess?

[AlexChess]

Hi Acepoint,

I've just tried to use nightnurse_n_bin and darkhorse_n.bin (also renaming them .nnue) with Cfish 140421 64 NEON binary compiled by you, but they doesn't work (BanksiaGui cannot bind these NNUE files)

Regards, AlexChess

[dkappe]

Hi Acepoint,

I've just tried to use nightnurse_n_bin and darkhorse_n.bin (also renaming them .nnue) with Cfish 140421 64 NEON binary compiled by you, but they doesn't work (BanksiaGui cannot bind these NNUE files)

Regards, AlexChess

Not sure which nets these are. The latest versions of DarkHorse and Night Nurse can be found at the links below.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/47913036
https://www.patreon.com/posts/46830152

[dkappe]

Only Fire is source code (I already thought so when reading the links), the others are a binary and known nets. For Fire and Brainfish I have to adjust the makefile, this will last a day or two due to lack of time.

Ciao

acepoint

Toga III is the latest RL Toga III running in the Toga II engine, so it “is source code.”

Compiles can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/50193195

[acepoint_de]

I've just tried to use nightnurse_n_bin and darkhorse_n.bin (also renaming them .nnue) with Cfish 140421 64 NEON binary compiled by you, but they doesn't work (BanksiaGui cannot bind these NNUE files)

I might be wrong, but if I remember correctly you have to configure the full path name. At least I remember something like this for certain engines in Chessbase. Nonetheless, the engine code itself is from February, so it must be cfish-1.3.

Ciao

acepoint

[AlexChess]

I've just tried to use nightnurse_n_bin and darkhorse_n.bin (also renaming them .nnue) with Cfish 140421 64 NEON binary compiled by you, but they doesn't work (BanksiaGui cannot bind these NNUE files)

I might be wrong, but if I remember correctly you have to configure the full path name. At least I remember something like this for certain engines in Chessbase. Nonetheless, the engine code itself is from February, so it must be cfish-1.3.

Ciao

acepoint

Hi!

@acepoint @dkappe
I've managed to bind both ninu-0.4b.bin and NightNurse_n.bin (I think they are the same) on Night Nurse CF for Windows 10 ARM64, but not on macOS M1 inside CFish 210311, Stockfish 210404 or Stockfish-slim 210523 (tried Cutechess and BanksiaGui) specifying full path, as .bin or renaming them .nnue

@dkappe Downloaded also Toga III 0.3.12 that works fine on Windows 10 ARM64. Isn't there also Dark Horse 0.4b.bin ? They are very strong on my Windows 10 tests.
Regards, AlexChess

[JohnWoe]

SuperBlitz 30 Engines 3 secs + 3 mins / all + Tb Syzygy 6-man on BanksiaGUI Mac Mini M1 - 4CPUs



Fat Fritz 2.0 Github (compiled by me thanks to CP guide) is first on Mac Mini M1 but not on the official build for Windows 10

Now switched to 30 mins+30 secs / all NOBOOK TB Syzygy 6-man roundrobin BanksiaGUI tournament between best engines above + Stockfish 230521 slim (EXP56)

Regards, AlexChess

Mayhem 4.5 finished last ...
...
I think that's because Mayhem used only its classical evaluation?
Mayhem's classical is oversimplified not so strong. Missing king safety etc.

[dkappe]

@acepoint @dkappe
I've managed to bind both ninu-0.4b.bin and NightNurse_n.bin (I think they are the same) on Night Nurse CF for Windows 10 ARM64, but not on macOS M1 inside CFish 210311, Stockfish 210404 or Stockfish-slim 210523 (tried Cutechess and BanksiaGui) specifying full path, as .bin or renaming them .nnue

@dkappe Downloaded also Toga III 0.3.12 that works fine on Windows 10 ARM64. Isn't there also Dark Horse 0.4b.bin ? They are very strong on my Windows 10 tests.
Regards, AlexChess

There was only a DarkHorse 0.3 but also The White Rose, which is definitely the strongest net I’ve trained outside of Komodo.

[wickedpotus]

Can malware use this vulnerability to take over my computer?
No.

(true not by the flaw itself)

Can malware use this vulnerability to steal my private information?
No.

Wrong.. letting unprivileged supposedly sandboxed applications communicate is a perfect way for keyloggers, browser-malware, NSA-style spying orgs, etc. to steal and transmit private information.

Can malware use this vulnerability to rickroll me?
Yes. I mean, it could also rickroll you without using it.

These kinds of basic fail from Apple to follow design guidelines from ARM do not help security in any way, and as it is unfixable it will be an added tool in the toolkit for the North-Koreans out there

Can this be exploited from Javascript on a website?
No.

If you simply assume that the browser, OS, javascript implementation, and webassembly implementation is 100% flawless and bulletproof then this added security defect won't be possible to exploit... But ... ...

Can this be exploited from Java apps?
Wait, people still use Java?

Java is most definitively used more than any Swift or even MacOS as a whole.

Can this be exploited from Flash applets?
Please stop.

I thought your argument about why security is not a problem on Apple products could not get any worse... But you managed to sink the rhetoric lower

[wickedpotus]

BTW AMD just released 16-threads APU - 5700GE extending the lead even more and asserting dominance over Apple, Intel, ARM, combing a 4.6 GHz 8-core, 16-threads CPU more than twice as fast as the M1 with a built-in high-end Radeon GPU on the same chip with an amazing low tdp of 35W.

[towforce]

BTW AMD just released 16-threads APU - 5700GE extending the lead even more and asserting dominance over Apple, Intel, ARM, combing a 4.6 GHz 8-core, 16-threads CPU more than twice as fast as the M1 with a built-in high-end Radeon GPU on the same chip with an amazing low tdp of 35W.

Wow!