New Ryzen 5900X build

cma6 · Post by **cma6** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:44 pm

I am working on components for new Win 11 capable system build and would appreciate suggestions from TC computer chess experts.
Here are preliminary ideas. Because of excessive cost of high end GPU, I'll have to settle for a relatively low end GPU and forget about lc0 for now. For Ryzen 5900X and SF, is there any point in going to 128 GB of RAM?

AIO 360 cooler that fully covers the CPU IHS and need a recommendation. Is 360mm cooler overkill, e.g., would 240mm or 280mm AIO be enough?
Unsystematic research points at
or Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 AIO $130

or NZXT Kraken X73 360mm - RL-KRX73-01 - AIO $170

X570 mobo: need recommendation, though I've done a fair bit of research (Tom's Best Picks; Amazon and Newegg reviews). Two Gigabyte boards stood out. It's not clear why one would pay $90 for the Ultra vs. the Elite.

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite Wifi $220

and Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra Motherboard $310
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-x570-ao ... klink=true

Power supply: Now many watts? From Tom's I picked out this one.
XPG CORE Reactor 650Watt 80 Plus Gold Certified Fully Modular Power Supply $110
I've had bad experience with Corsair customer support.

System case for ATX. Do I need Full-Tower or Mid-Tower; Also with 360mm AIO cooler, how big a case is needed?
One idea: Phanteks Enthoo Pro II Full-Tower $160

Storage:
2 X 500 GB NVMe PCIe internal drives. Looking at
SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 2280 500GB PCIe Gen 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.3 V-NAND 2 X $89 = $178

RAM: 64 GB
Patriot Viper Steel RGB DDR4 32GB (1 x 32GB) 3200MHz Module - PVSR432G320C8 $150
4 X $150 = $300

GPU: Chess and general purpose build--not gaming system. Chess needs fast CPU. I will go with adequate video card for general use need recommendation. Current work system has Nvidia GeForce GTX650 Ti Boost, which is more than adequate. What about a used GPU? Under $200 if possible.

schack · Post by **schack** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:38 pm

If you're not doing extreme overclocking, a good air cooler - Noctua comes to mind - might be worth thinking about. When I built this for work and play...

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/BVp8TW

I was pleased to see that the Noctua could handle pretty much whatever I threw at it with a mild overclock going on.

Oh, and get 3600 ram for Ryzen. Best bang for the buck.

cma6 · Post by **cma6** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:19 pm

Shack:
Thanks for very useful post.
Is your build a Ryzen 5900X or 5950X?
What is your "mild O/C"?
Which Noctua did you buy?
I read somewhere that Ryzen 5900X has trouble with RAM raster than 3200. But you are recommending 3600 RAM.
Thanks, CMA

Graham Banks · Post by **Graham Banks** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:34 pm

I'm currently looking at the following, although I'm going to switch the psu for a 'gold' one.

jdart · Post by **jdart** » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:13 am

I like Noctua coolers and fans. I've used Gigabyte boards extensively. One very nice feature on at least some of the boards is that you can flash the BIOS just by plugging in a USB stick and pressing a button. The system does not even have to be bootable. Pro tip: very good idea to update the BIOS. Especially if using a newer CPU that the board BIOS you get in the box may not support.

JohnW · Post by **JohnW** » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:45 am

This is something I have been thinking about doing as well but I struggle justifying the cost just for chess. I mean Stockfish 14 still has no problem beating me on my current PC and I guess if I had something faster it could analyze my games better, but would I understand the deeper analysis. I like playing engine vs engine matches and tournaments and not sure I would gain anything by getting a new pc. How are you planning on using it?

cma6 · Post by **cma6** » Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:26 pm

Thanks for the several useful replies.
On Graham Banks proposed system:
1) You are going with 360mm AIO. Wouldn't 280mm be enough based on AMD recommendation?
2) How to choose between mid-tower case and full tower, especially with large AIO inside?
3) Your Windows is OEM. What about being able to transfer Windows to another system?

yurikvelo · Post by **yurikvelo** » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:03 pm

Don't you consider a pair of 1-2 Tb SSD for limited Syzygy-7 WDL set?

Graham Banks · Post by **Graham Banks** » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:31 pm

cma6 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:26 pm Thanks for the several useful replies.
On Graham Banks proposed system:
1) You are going with 360mm AIO. Wouldn't 280mm be enough based on AMD recommendation?
2) How to choose between mid-tower case and full tower, especially with large AIO inside?
3) Your Windows is OEM. What about being able to transfer Windows to another system?

This is the original AIO:
https://www.extremepc.co.nz/gaming-pcs/ ... 0%20-win10

I didn't want the flashy case, so using the suggested alternative. I'd rather have the mid-tower case, as I intend having it on my desk.

I asked for more efficient cooling, as it will be running 24/7 at around 80% load.

On talking with others, I asked for better SSD drives, plus wanted an ordinary hard drive. Likewise with the PSU.

Windows OEM is fine for me, as I prefer to buy my computers all ready to go, rather than building them and installing Windows myself.

cma6 · Post by **cma6** » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:47 pm

yurikvelo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:03 pm Don't you consider a pair of 1-2 Tb SSD for limited Syzygy-7 WDL set?

3-6 man TBs take up only 150 GB. Is it worth downloading 7-man Syzgy TBs (how big?) when one can access them online, often from within the GUI?