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Eduard
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Post by Eduard Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:32 pm
I am frustrated, sorry!
New arrows are constantly being implemented and new graphics are constantly being implemented (Fig. 4 Multi thinking arrows. One engine is thinking, the rival is pondering)
Crazy!! A thousand things! But with the most important, the engine info, you can't even change the font. That's the wrong way. The basics are skipped in favor of unimportant chaotic things.
AlexChess
Posts: 1562Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:06 amFull name: Alex Morales
Post by AlexChess Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:17 pm
Hi Pham!
All OK with 0.51
Feature request: Search a game in Tournament panel inserting engine names and status (eg: played games, unplayed games, failed) With 2080 games it's hard to find it
Thank you!
Alex
PS: Thanks for engines name column doubled size in engines management window
Chess engines and dedicated chess computers fan since 1981
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Eduard
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Post by Eduard Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:22 pm
One more thing. Instead of the thousand arrows, it would make more sense to be able to copy the engine info to the clipboard in order to be able to discuss it in the forum. If I want to post an analysis, I have to change the GUI.
shaoxinyu
Posts: 10Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:21 pmFull name: Xinyu Shao
Post by shaoxinyu Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:58 pm
Eduard wrote: ↑ Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:22 pm
One more thing. Instead of the thousand arrows, it would make more sense to be able to copy the engine info to the clipboard in order to be able to discuss it in the forum. If I want to post an analysis, I have to change the GUI.
usually, people copy the engine info from the engine log (in Banksiagui, see windows--docks--engine log).
Eduard
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Post by Eduard Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:15 pm
Banksia GUI Engine LOG:rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
Torom
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Post by Torom Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:14 pm
@Eduard
Eduard
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Post by Eduard Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:50 pm
I appreciate the developer's work. But it must be possible to copy a simple analysis using clip analysis (or to change fonts). But I see that the things I want are unimportant. More important is nonsensical gimmick with a thousand arrows. This is not my world, I am disappointed. Fortunately I have ChessBase, there I have everything I need except for Lichess. I wish everyone a lot of fun with Banksia's gadgets. I'm now taking a break with Banksia.
matejst
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Post by matejst Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:23 pm
I think Pham made an error from the beginning: instead of developing Banksia GUI the way he thought it would make sense, he listened to endless and so often futile requests. Banksia is unusable for anything except -- just like the string of requests -- endless eng-eng tournaments. One cannot load a slightly more annotated pgn (annotations are not visible), and any operation has become over-complicated.
AlexChess
Posts: 1562Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:06 amFull name: Alex Morales
Post by AlexChess Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:48 pm
matejst wrote: ↑ Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:23 pm
I think Pham made an error from the beginning: instead of developing Banksia GUI the way he thought it would make sense, he listened to endless and so often futile requests. Banksia is unusable for anything except -- just like the string of requests -- endless eng-eng tournaments. One cannot load a slightly more annotated pgn (annotations are not visible), and any operation has become over-complicated.
IMHO, he should stop listening to any of us and focus on what he thinks is worthy, or to the needs of his target group -- if it is a larger slice of users, chess players/amateurs, he is obviously on the wrong path. The same happened with Arena.
You are wrong! I'm sure that Pham appreciates our feedbacks, every betatester and supporter is absolutely focused on a specific area. It's a really complex GUI with millions on features and he quickly fixes all glitches (now the tournaments management IS PERFECT) and adds new incredible functions with every new build.
He's always kind and hears our suggestions. The graphic is superlative and absolutely customizable. I have asked the same to Arena author Martin Blume by email, thanking him for Arena, but asking to fix some big bugs and he haven't even answered me a single word. It's closed source, written in Delphi and so no one can correct or improve it anymore
...And now I do another PayPal donation to Pham! Chess engines and dedicated chess computers fan since 1981
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Eduard
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Post by Eduard Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:32 pm
matejst wrote: ↑ Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:23 pm
I think Pham made an error from the beginning: instead of developing Banksia GUI the way he thought it would make sense, he listened to endless and so often futile requests. Banksia is unusable for anything except -- just like the string of requests -- endless eng-eng tournaments. One cannot load a slightly more annotated pgn (annotations are not visible), and any operation has become over-complicated.
IMHO, he should stop listening to any of us and focus on what he thinks is worthy, or to the needs of his target group -- if it is a larger slice of users, chess players/amateurs, he is obviously on the wrong path. The same happened with Arena.
1. The most important things are the basics! No wishes from people are required for this. The basics include that you can work
with both mouse buttons , that analyzes, FEN and PGN are easy to copy.
2. You should be able to work intuitively with a GUI. Here in the picture you can see two photos from the Fritz GUI:
Here all fundamentally important functions can be opened with just one click of the mouse.
I am used to working like this. Of course I would also like to be able to choose my own fonts, just as I like it !!
Unfortunately, there is no such thing at Banksia. Instead, a thousand new arrows and countless crazy graphics.
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