Banksia GUI released

[ydebilloez]

Yves De Billoëz,

UCI_EngineAbout has been supported for the next release.

I am still confused about what the engine could print out if its option UCI_ShowCurrLine on. If only info with terms "curmove", "currmovenumber" (as Stockfish has been doing), BSG has supported already.

BTW, I have tried with Belofte 2.1.4, waited for a while but didn't see it printed out any special thing:

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13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4< uci
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> belofte> id name Belofte 2.1.4
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> id author Yves De Billoez
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> option name alg type combo default AB var Random var StaticEval var BruteForce var SearchIterativeBF var AB var ABFS var ABFH
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> option name evaltype type combo default PositionalBoard var PiecesOnly var StaticBoard var PositionalBoard
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> option name UCI_ShowCurrLine type check default false
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> option name UCI_EngineAbout type string default Belofte 2.1.4 by Yves De Billoez 2004-2021, Released under the GNU GPL v2 license
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> option name UCI_Opponent type string default <empty>
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> uciok
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4< setoption name UCI_ShowCurrLine value true
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4< isready
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4< position startpos
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4< go infinite
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> readyok
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info string Searching started: AB INFINITE search For white
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info time 0 score cp -5 string AB alpha: -INF. beta: INF. static: -5
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 1 time 0 score cp 50 pv d2d4 string AB alpha & best update search: 50 > alpha: -INF.
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 1 time 0 score cp 62 pv e2e4 string AB alpha & best update search: 62 > alpha: 50
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 1 time 1 score cp 62 pv e2e4 string AB (return best)
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 1 time 1 score cp 62 pv e2e4 string AB (depth 1) done
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info score cp 62 time 1 pv e2e4
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 1 time 1 score cp -5 pv e2e4 string AB alpha: -INF. beta: INF. static: -5
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 2 seldepth 4 time 1 score cp 23 pv e2e4 d7d5 string AB alpha & best update search: 23 > alpha: -INF.
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 2 seldepth 4 time 5 score cp 23 pv e2e4 d7d5 string AB (return best)
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 2 seldepth 4 time 6 score cp 23 pv e2e4 d7d5 string AB (depth 2) done
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info score cp 23 time 6 pv e2e4 d7d5
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 2 seldepth 4 time 6 score cp -5 pv e2e4 d7d5 string AB alpha: -INF. beta: INF. static: -5
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 7 time 16 nodes 1247 nps 77937 score cp 44 pv e2e4 d7d5 d2d3 d5e4 d3e4 string AB alpha & best update search: 44 > alpha: -INF.
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 7 time 29 nodes 2362 nps 81448 score cp 44 pv e2e4 d7d5 d2d3 d5e4 d3e4 string AB (return best)
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 7 time 29 nodes 2362 nps 81448 score cp 44 pv e2e4 d7d5 d2d3 d5e4 d3e4 string AB (depth 3) done
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info score cp 44 time 29 pv e2e4 d7d5 d2d3 d5e4 d3e4
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 7 time 29 nodes 2362 nps 81448 score cp -5 pv e2e4 d7d5 d2d3 d5e4 d3e4 string AB alpha: -INF. beta: INF. static: -5
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 4 seldepth 10 time 94 nodes 6817 nps 72521 score cp 22 pv e2e4 e7e5 d2d4 d7d6 string AB alpha & best update search: 22 > alpha: -INF.
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 4 seldepth 10 time 212 nodes 16222 nps 76518 score cp 22 pv e2e4 e7e5 d2d4 d7d6 string AB (return best)
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 4 seldepth 10 time 212 nodes 16222 nps 76518 score cp 22 pv e2e4 e7e5 d2d4 d7d6 string AB (depth 4) done
13:15:10 belofte64-2.1.4> info score cp 22 time 212 pv e2e4 e7e5 d2d4 d7d6
13:15:11 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 4 seldepth 10 time 212 nodes 16222 nps 76518 score cp -5 pv e2e4 e7e5 d2d4 d7d6 string AB alpha: -INF. beta: INF. static: -5
13:15:11 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 11 time 546 nodes 42958 nps 78677 score cp 16 pv e2e4 e7e5 d2d4 f8b4 c2c3 string AB alpha & best update search: 16 > alpha: -INF.
13:15:11 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 13 time 889 nodes 71291 nps 80192 score cp 21 pv e2e3 e7e5 d2d4 d7d6 d1e2 string AB alpha & best update search: 21 > alpha: 16
13:15:11 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 13 time 1124 nodes 90904 nps 80875 score cp 25 pv d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 c8g4 c1g5 string AB alpha & best update search: 25 > alpha: 21
13:15:11 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 13 time 1353 nodes 110475 nps 81651 score cp 25 pv d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 c8g4 c1g5 string AB (return best)
13:15:11 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 13 time 1353 nodes 110475 nps 81651 score cp 25 pv d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 c8g4 c1g5 string AB (depth 5) done
13:15:11 belofte64-2.1.4> info score cp 25 time 1353 pv d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 c8g4 c1g5
13:15:14 Lc0 v0.26.0-dev< isready
13:15:14 Lc0 v0.26.0-dev> readyok
13:15:14 Komodo 12.1.1 64-bit< isready
13:15:14 Komodo 12.1.1 64-bit> readyok
13:15:19 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 5 seldepth 13 time 1353 nodes 110475 nps 81651 score cp -5 pv d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 c8g4 c1g5 string AB alpha: -INF. beta: INF. static: -5
13:15:19 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 6 seldepth 15 time 4263 nodes 348314 nps 81706 score cp 20 pv d2d4 d7d5 e2e3 e7e6 b1c3 f8b4 string AB alpha & best update search: 20 > alpha: -INF.
13:15:19 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 6 seldepth 15 time 6364 nodes 520396 nps 81771 score cp 22 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 d8d5 d2d4 e7e6 string AB alpha & best update search: 22 > alpha: 20
13:15:19 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 6 seldepth 15 time 9802 nodes 815850 nps 83233 score cp 22 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 d8d5 d2d4 e7e6 string AB (return best)
13:15:19 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 6 seldepth 15 time 9802 nodes 815850 nps 83233 score cp 22 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 d8d5 d2d4 e7e6 string AB (depth 6) done
13:15:19 belofte64-2.1.4> info score cp 22 time 9802 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 d8d5 d2d4 e7e6
13:16:05 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 6 seldepth 15 time 9802 nodes 815850 nps 83233 score cp -5 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 d8d5 d2d4 e7e6 string AB alpha: -INF. beta: INF. static: -5
13:16:05 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 7 seldepth 17 time 27863 nodes 2280543 nps 81848 score cp 28 pv e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 f1b5 b8d7 d1f3 string AB alpha & best update search: 28 > alpha: -INF.
13:16:05 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 7 seldepth 19 time 55465 nodes 4543919 nps 81924 score cp 28 pv e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 f1b5 b8d7 d1f3 string AB (return best)
13:16:05 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 7 seldepth 19 time 55465 nodes 4543919 nps 81924 score cp 28 pv e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 f1b5 b8d7 d1f3 string AB (depth 7) done
13:16:05 belofte64-2.1.4> info score cp 28 time 55465 pv e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 f1b5 b8d7 d1f3
13:17:05 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 7 seldepth 19 time 55465 nodes 4543919 nps 81924 score cp -5 pv e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 f1b5 b8d7 d1f3 string AB alpha: -INF. beta: INF. static: -5
13:18:05 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 9 seldepth 19 time 146040 nodes 11771287 nps 80603 score cp 9 pv e2e4 d7d5 e4d5 d8d5 d2d4 e7e5 c1e3 e5d4 e3d4 string AB alpha & best update search: 9 > alpha: -INF.
13:19:05 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 9 seldepth 20 time 223360 nodes 17832326 nps 79836 score cp 10 pv e2e3 d7d5 d2d4 e7e6 f1b5 c8d7 b1c3 d7b5 c3b5 string AB alpha & 13:22:06 belofte64-2.1.4> info depth 8 seldepth 21 time 401921 nodes 31468770 nps 78295 score cp 14 pv d2d4 d7d5 e2e3 b8d7 b1c3 g8f6 f1b5 e7e6 string AB alpha & best update search: 14 > alpha: 10

The version of Belofte you are using is a special build I made for testing some new features. It has not been released yet. I am still working on 2.1.4 and will only release it if next to the UI changes, I gain at least some elo. I have been busy professionally lately so development is going at a slower pace now.

[AlexChess]

Hi Pham!

Would be very nice if BSG could use online Syzygy tablebases up to 7 man

https://syzygy-tables.info/
https://lichess.org/blog/W3WeMyQAACQAdf ... e-complete

Best regards, Alex

[phhnguyen]

Hi Pham!

Would be very nice if BSG could use online Syzygy tablebases up to 7 man

https://syzygy-tables.info/
https://lichess.org/blog/W3WeMyQAACQAdf ... e-complete

Best regards, Alex

That has been supported already! BSG uses chessdb.cn (by Bojun Guo) to query positions for both opening and endgames. Just add it (in Settings -> Book/Egtb), tick all boxes, then copy or edit an endgame position and you can see all information from that online syzygy as the below image (I don't have 7 men on my computer).

However, the online 7-men is just for references, studying. None of the engines can use it. BSG doesn't use it (the online) either for adjudication since online services typically are laggy and not reliable.

[phhnguyen]

Hi Pham,
when creating a multi engine what is the difference between "highest vote" and "highest score" ?

cheers
William

* Highest vote: a vote is a best-move from an engine. In other words, an engine votes for a move. If two engines have the same best move, that move has two votes, and so on. In this mode, BSG picks the move which was voted most. If all moves have the same vote, it picks randomly instead
* Highest score: the best-move come with the highest score

[Wilhelm]

Hi Pham,
when creating a multi engine what is the difference between "highest vote" and "highest score" ?

cheers
William

* Highest vote: a vote is a best-move from an engine. In other words, an engine votes for a move. If two engines have the same best move, that move has two votes, and so on. In this mode, BSG picks the move which was voted most. If all moves have the same vote, it picks randomly instead
* Highest score: the best-move come with the highest score

All clear !
Merci beaucoup

[AlexChess]

Hi Pham!

Would be very nice if BSG could use online Syzygy tablebases up to 7 man

https://syzygy-tables.info/
https://lichess.org/blog/W3WeMyQAACQAdf ... e-complete

Best regards, Alex

That has been supported already! BSG uses chessdb.cn (by Bojun Guo) to query positions for both opening and endgames. Just add it (in Settings -> Book/Egtb), tick all boxes, then copy or edit an endgame position and you can see all information from that online syzygy as the below image (I don't have 7 men on my computer).

However, the online 7-men is just for references, studying. None of the engines can use it. BSG doesn't use it (the online) either for adjudication since online services typically are laggy and not reliable.

Wonderful, thank you!

Best regards, Alex

[Torom]

Hi Pham!

Would be very nice if BSG could use online Syzygy tablebases up to 7 man

https://syzygy-tables.info/
https://lichess.org/blog/W3WeMyQAACQAdf ... e-complete

Best regards, Alex

That has been supported already! BSG uses chessdb.cn (by Bojun Guo) to query positions for both opening and endgames. Just add it (in Settings -> Book/Egtb), tick all boxes, then copy or edit an endgame position and you can see all information from that online syzygy as the below image (I don't have 7 men on my computer).

However, the online 7-men is just for references, studying. None of the engines can use it. BSG doesn't use it (the online) either for adjudication since online services typically are laggy and not reliable.

You could add support for the Lichess API.
This can also analyse positions: https://lichess.org/api#operation/apiCloudEval
Or access the 7-men EGTB: https://lichess.org/api#operation/tablebaseStandard

Their API should be more reliable for most people than chessdb.cn

[phhnguyen]

Hi Pham!

Would be very nice if BSG could use online Syzygy tablebases up to 7 man

https://syzygy-tables.info/
https://lichess.org/blog/W3WeMyQAACQAdf ... e-complete

Best regards, Alex

That has been supported already! BSG uses chessdb.cn (by Bojun Guo) to query positions for both opening and endgames. Just add it (in Settings -> Book/Egtb), tick all boxes, then copy or edit an endgame position and you can see all information from that online syzygy as the below image (I don't have 7 men on my computer).

However, the online 7-men is just for references, studying. None of the engines can use it. BSG doesn't use it (the online) either for adjudication since online services typically are laggy and not reliable.

You could add support for the Lichess API.
This can also analyse positions: https://lichess.org/api#operation/apiCloudEval
Or access the 7-men EGTB: https://lichess.org/api#operation/tablebaseStandard

Their API should be more reliable for most people than chessdb.cn

Thanks for the info.

I am not sure since I didn’t start, but perhaps the Lichess API requires the user to have/create a Lichess account, then create a token and copy it into an app (as BSG) then the app can start querying. That is fine for some users but maybe not relevant to many other users who just want some openings, or solutions of 7-man but don’t want to know about Lichess nor spend time to do many steps.

Chessdb at least can reply immediately without any registration step.

[Torom]

I am not sure since I didn’t start, but perhaps the Lichess API requires the user to have/create a Lichess account, then create a token and copy it into an app (as BSG) then the app can start querying. That is fine for some users but maybe not relevant to many other users who just want some openings, or solutions of 7-man but don’t want to know about Lichess nor spend time to do many steps.

Chessdb at least can reply immediately without any registration step.

No, both endpoints work without any authentication.

[Uri Blass]

I wonder if there is a way to copy the cross table of a tournament.

If you mean about a "pure" crosstable, yes, on the panel Tourmanet Result, there is a tab "Plain text" to copy all stats, including the crosstable. If you need an image, use the button on the top-right corner to copy it.

I made a tournament between stockfish depth 5,depth 6.depth 7,depth 8,depth 9

Results are:
Depth 9:7.5
Depth 8:6.5
Depth 7:3.5
Depth 6:2
Depth 5:0.5

Now I would like to add participants to the tournament when every new participant is going to play all previous participants twice with white and black so later I can get a new cross table and I wonder if it is possible to do it.

I basically duplicated stockfish 5 times to make the tournament and used 5 different time id.

I guess that I can make a gauntlet but I do not see how I can have 6 different time controls so I can only make a gauntlet of Stockfish depth 10 against 4 players out of 5.

There are some ways to do that.
- The simplest way is to create a new tournament with new games you want to add ("add participants to the tournament when..."). After all new games are played, you can merge the new one with the old/existent one, using the function Edit tournament (menu -> Tournament -> Actions -> Edit current tournament), thus you can have two data in one for Elo calculating/crosstable
- Create a new tournament with the new games as you want (similar above solution) but you export all games into PGN files. I am sure we all are family with PGN files . Now, you can merge and edit them as you want. BSG can help to calculate Elo/create crosstable directly from PGN files (below illustration)
- If you are good at JSON, you can edit directly the file banksiaplaying.json. All information about the tournament's games is stored in that file. JSON is the human-readable format, both software and human can work directly.

I understood how to copy cross table but
I do not understand exactly what to do in order to merge tournaments.
After making a tournament I did the following steps:

1)I could copy the cross table and got the following:

Result:
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# name games wins% draws% losses% score elo + -
1. Dragon 2.5.1 depth8 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 8 87.5 0.0 12.5 7.0 211 222 168
2. Dragon 2.5.1 depth9 by Komodo Chess 64-bit dup 8 87.5 0.0 12.5 7.0 211 222 168
3. Dragon 2.5.1 depth7 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 8 37.5 12.5 50.0 3.5 -33 159 166
4. Dragon 2.5.1 depth6 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 8 25.0 12.5 62.5 2.5 -96 158 176
5. Dragon 2.5.1 depth5 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 8 0.0 0.0 100.0 0 -294 177 280

Cross table:
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# name score games 1 2 3 4 5
1. Dragon 2.5.1 depth8 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 7.0 8 x 1.0 2.0 2.0 2.0
2. Dragon 2.5.1 depth9 by Komodo Chess 64-bit dup 7.0 8 1.0 x 2.0 2.0 2.0
3. Dragon 2.5.1 depth7 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 3.5 8 0.0 0.0 x 1.5 2.0
4. Dragon 2.5.1 depth6 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 2.5 8 0.0 0.0 0.5 x 2.0
5. Dragon 2.5.1 depth5 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 0 8 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 x

Tech:
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Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes:
# name nodes/m NPS depth/m time/m moves time
1. Dragon 2.5.1 depth8 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 4K 325709 8.0 0.0 57.6 0.7
2. Dragon 2.5.1 depth9 by Komodo Chess 64-bit dup 6K 497014 9.0 0.0 63.3 0.8
3. Dragon 2.5.1 depth7 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 2K 192378 7.0 0.0 72.5 0.8
4. Dragon 2.5.1 depth6 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 1K 121095 6.0 0.0 69.3 0.7
5. Dragon 2.5.1 depth5 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 1K 76056 5.0 0.0 59.5 0.6
all --- 2K 250228 7.0 0.0 64.4 0.7

2)I saved the file to a pgn file with the name dragon_depths
I want to add dragon depth 10 to the tournament
I cannot have a tournament with 6 different time controls and can only make a tournament with 5 time controls so my plan is the following:
a)make a match of 2 games between dragon depth 10 and dragon depth 5
b)make a gauntlet of dragon depth 10 and dragon depths 5-9
c)merge all the 3 tournaments.
In order to make it simple I try first to merge only 2 additinal games into the tournament in step a
so I make the following steps
3)I make a tournament with 2 games of dragon depth 10 against dragon depth 5.
4)I get the following table
Result:
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# name games wins% draws% losses% score elo + -
1. Dragon 2.5.1 depth10 by Komodo Chess 64-bit dup dup 2 100.0 0.0 0.0 2 75 178 135
2. Dragon 2.5.1 depth5 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 2 0.0 0.0 100.0 0 -75 135 178

Cross table:
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# name score games 1 2
1. Dragon 2.5.1 depth10 by Komodo Chess 64-bit dup dup 2 2 x 2.0
2. Dragon 2.5.1 depth5 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 0 2 0.0 x

Tech:
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Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes:
# name nodes/m NPS depth/m time/m moves time
1. Dragon 2.5.1 depth10 by Komodo Chess 64-bit dup dup 10K 693739 10.0 0.0 61.5 0.9
2. Dragon 2.5.1 depth5 by Komodo Chess 64-bit 1K 66949 5.0 0.0 61.0 0.6
all --- 5K 429016 7.5 0.0 61.3 0.8

5)I choose tournaments->actions->edit current tournament
I see that the default option is replace Benjamin1.1 with Benjamin1.1.


I do not understand how I can merge 2 tournaments and I do not understand how I get games of the previous tournament that I want to merge(I already have a pgn but I cannot choose pgn when I click on merge game from another tournament JSON