PGN for dummies

[R. Tomasi]

True, but I consider such requirements w.r.t. encoding 'void', and not part of the specifications of PGN syntax. They are specifications of the underlying text format. Which contradict modern standards for text files, and thus are extremely counter-productive.

To have smoothly working software it is important to conform to the standards of the computer system it is embedded in. E.g. it is annoying to use just LF for a newline on WinBoard, because then the file won't disply correctly in NotePad when you want to edit it. Fulvio ignores the encoding standard, and uses UTF-8 always, because he (unjustly, as we have seen) thinks that this works perfectly even on Windows.

Well, FWIW I think you're right about some parts of the standard being counter-productive. Btw, it explicitely allows you to use the Windows convention on Systems with that OS, even for the "export" version. Restricting to the UNIX-convention for archival storage seems to be a reasonable thing to do, though, imho. Even if that means that it gets hard to view those files in notepad.

[Fulvio]

it gets hard to view those files in notepad.

Don't fall for fake news.
Microsoft, 2018, "we’re excited to announce that we have fixed this issue!"
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandl ... n-notepad/

[hgm]

Oh, wow, they fixed that in Windows 10? Too bad they did not deign to make that available as a patch for earlier Windows versions. Now it is not much use to me...

[Fulvio]

Oh, wow, they fixed that in Windows 10? Too bad they did not deign to make that available as a patch for earlier Windows versions. Now it is not much use to me...

"This 10-year period has now ended, and Microsoft has discontinued Windows 7 support so that we can focus our investment on supporting newer technologies and great new experiences":
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... 66d9a53962

[hgm]

Yes, too bad. Better an unsupported Windows 7 than the crap they sell as Windows 8 or 10, though.

[dangi12012]

Yes, too bad. Better an unsupported Windows 7 than the crap they sell as Windows 8 or 10, though.

I dont know. DirectStorage is pretty neat. Also you need the new sceduler for Ryzen and Strong/Weak Core Cpus which is not included in Win7.
If you ever get Intel with DDR5 or a Zen CPU you will have to update or lose a lot of performance.

[Fulvio]

the crap they sell as Windows 8 or 10, though.

Have you tried it, or do you just keep spreading fake news?

[hgm]

Unfortunately my laptop has Windows 8, and my wife was forced to upgrade to Windows 10 when her hard disc died.

Only one spreading fake news here seems to be you...

[hgm]

Yes, too bad. Better an unsupported Windows 7 than the crap they sell as Windows 8 or 10, though.

I dont know. DirectStorage is pretty neat. Also you need the new sceduler for Ryzen and Strong/Weak Core Cpus which is not included in Win7.
If you ever get Intel with DDR5 or a Zen CPU you will have to update or lose a lot of performance.

When I get a new computer, it is very hard to not get forced a new Windows down your throat with it. So I don't think what you sketch is a very realistic scenario. Fortunately I was able to revive the desktop I have (the cause of frequent crashes turned out to be accumulation of dust in the cooling fan of the GPU, preventing it from turning), and I am confident that it will still serve me wel for many years.

[Fulvio]

Only one spreading fake news here seems to be you...

Your fake news:
- the PGN standard admit only ASCII chars
- UTF-8 or LF-only lines would make it a binary format.
- Windows cannot handle a UTF-8 text file without the Byte Order Mark
- Notepad cannot read LF-only text files
- Windows 10 is crap

What would mine be?