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It's strong like Deep Hiarcs 14 (2014) and weaker than Deep Shredder 13 (2019) . Clover 2.4, by the child Luca Metehau (Romania) forum3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78182#p905626 (a real programming genius that I admire) is stronger than all these commercial engines 
macOS Sequoia 16GB-512GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64.
Jawohl ! Agreed !AlexChess wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:10 am To be fair, Fritz 18 has 100 ELO less than Fritz 17
No. Not really an upgrade
On CEGT is difficult to trace ELO differences because 1-2-4-8 CPUs are mixed (I'm playing 150 GAMES WITH BOTH OF THEM versus all other top 75 engines *not only few ones or 17 vs 18*, but it takes time) That's incredible that a 30+ years old software house that has a really good database manager like Chessbase 16 (not kidding, it is the best choice for professional players) cannot release an INTERNAL engine 3700+ ELO with NNUE, online tablebases up to 7 man and the best Powerbooks, to compete with Stockfish 14.1, Dragon 2.5.1 (the only interesting commercial engine today) and all the other wonderful derivatives 3600+ ELO (most of them open sources, so they can learn how to improve next HUGE Fritz 19 without cloning the work of others)Sylwy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:33 amJawohl ! Agreed !AlexChess wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:10 am To be fair, Fritz 18 has 100 ELO less than Fritz 17
No. Not really an upgrade
From the monastery where I follow (a semester or two) a detox cure for clones, I can confirm! Here I am allowed to use only originals ......... preferably commercial ....!
Fritz 18 is a fiasco like chess engine..........like GUI ....so & so. I'm still studying. It doesn't impress me anyway.
[pgn]
[Event "Fritz 18_(Ginkgo_2021)_x64_Popcnt Test"]
[Site "ISR 3"]
[Date "2021.11.21"]
[Round "32"]
[White "Clover.2.4_x64_bmi2"]
[Black "Fritz 18_(Ginkgo_2021)_x64_ Popcnt"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "A40"]
[Opening "Englund (Charlick) Gambit"]
[Time "13:56:09"]
[Variation "2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "240+2"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "120"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 Nc6 3. Nf3 d6 4. exd6 Bxd6 5. Nc3 {(Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 Nc3-b5
O-O Nb5xd6 c7xd6 c2-c3 Bc8-f5 Bc1-f4 Nf6-e4 Nf3-d2 Qd8-e7 Nd2xe4 Qe7xe4
e2-e3 Rf8-d8 Qd1-f3 Qe4-c2 Qf3-e2 Qc2-a4 b2-b3 Qa4-e4 Qe2-c4 d6-d5 Qc4xe4
d5xe4) +0.59/23 10} Nf6 {(Ng8-f6 e2-e4 O-O Bf1-d3 Nc6-e5 h2-h3 b7-b6 O-O
Bc8-b7 Bc1-d2 Rf8-e8 a2-a4 Qd8-e7 Rf1-e1 a7-a5 Nf3xe5 Qe7xe5 f2-f4 Bd6-c5+
Kg1-h1 Qe5-e6 f4-f5) -0.53/21 7} 6. Nb5 {(Nc3-b5 O-O Nb5xd6 c7xd6 g2-g3
Bc8-f5 Bf1-g2 Bf5-e4 O-O Rf8-e8 c2-c3 h7-h6 Bc1-f4 Nf6-d5 Bf4-d2 Qd8-c7
c3-c4 Nd5-f6 Bd2-c3 Be4xf3 Bg2xf3 Nc6-e5 Bc3xe5 Re8xe5) +0.76/24 9} Bb4+
{(Bd6-b4+ c2-c3 Qd8xd1+ Ke1xd1 Bb4-a5 Bc1-f4 Nf6-d5 Bf4-g3 Bc8-f5 e2-e3 O-O
Kd1-e1 Ra8-d8 Bg3-h4 Rd8-d7 Ra1-d1 Ba5-b6 Bf1-c4 Bf5-e4 Nf3-g5 Nc6-e5
Bc4-e2 Be4-c2 Rd1-d2 Bc2-a4 Ng5-f3 Ne5xf3+ Be2xf3 c7-c6 Nb5-d4) -0.37/22
14} 7. c3 {(c2-c3) +0.93/23 9} Qxd1+ {(Qd8xd1+ Ke1xd1 Bb4-a5 Bc1-f4 Nf6-d5
Bf4-g3 Bc8-f5 e2-e3 O-O Kd1-e1 Ra8-d8 Bg3-h4 Rd8-d7 Ra1-d1 Ba5-b6 Bf1-c4
Bf5-e4 Bc4-b3 a7-a6 Nf3-g5 Be4-f5 Rd1xd5 Rd7xd5 Bb3xd5 a6xb5 Ke1-e2 h7-h6
Ng5-f3 Rf8-a8 Rh1-d1 Bf5-c2 Rd1-d2 Bc2-g6 Bh4-g3) -0.61/23 16} 8. Kxd1 Ba5
{(Bb4-a5 Bc1-f4 Nf6-d5 Bf4-g3 Bc8-f5 e2-e3 O-O-O Nb5-d4 Nc6xd4 e3xd4 c7-c5
Ra1-c1 Ba5-c7 Bf1-c4 Bc7-f4 Rc1-a1 Bf4xg3 h2xg3 c5xd4 c3xd4 Kc8-b8 Ra1-c1
Rh8-e8 Bc4xd5 Rd8xd5 Rc1-c5 Rd5xc5 d4xc5) -0.63/22 9} 9. Bf4 {+0.92/25 9}
Nd5 {(Nf6-d5 Bf4-g3 Bc8-f5 e2-e3 O-O Kd1-e1 Ra8-d8 Ra1-d1 Bf5-e4 Nf3-g5
Be4-g6 Bf1-c4 Nc6-e7 h2-h4 a7-a6 Nb5-d4 Nd5-f6 Bc4-e2 Nf6-h5 Bg3-e5 c7-c5
Nd4-b3 Rd8xd1+ Ke1xd1 Rf8-d8+ Kd1-e1 Ba5-b6) -0.69/23 11} 10. Bg3 {(Bf4-g3
Bc8-f5 e2-e3 O-O-O Nb5-d4 Nc6xd4 c3xd4 f7-f6 Bf1-c4 Bf5-e4 Kd1-e2 h7-h5
h2-h4 Rh8-e8 Ra1-c1 g7-g6 Bc4-d3 Be4xd3+ Ke2xd3 Re8-e6 Nf3-d2 Ba5-b6)
+0.85/23 9} Bf5 {(Bc8-f5 e2-e3 O-O Kd1-e1 Ra8-d8 Ra1-d1 Bf5-e4 Nf3-g5
Be4-g6 Bf1-c4 Nc6-e7 e3-e4 a7-a6 e4xd5 a6xb5 d5-d6 c7xd6 Bc4xb5 d6-d5
Ng5-f3 Ne7-c6 Ke1-f1 Ba5-b6 h2-h4 Bg6-h5 Rd1-e1 Bh5xf3 g2xf3 Rf8-e8 Re1xe8+
Rd8xe8) -0.55/23 8} 11. e3 {(e2-e3 a7-a6) +0.92/22 8} O-O {(O-O Kd1-e1
Ra8-d8 Ra1-d1 Bf5-c2 Rd1-d2 Bc2-e4 Nf3-g5 Be4-g6 Bf1-c4 Nd5-f6 Rd2xd8
Rf8xd8 Ke1-e2 a7-a6 Nb5-d4 Nc6-e7 Rh1-d1 Ne7-d5 Bc4-d3 Bg6-h5+ f2-f3 c7-c5
Nd4-b3 Ba5xc3 Nb3xc5 Bc3xb2 Nc5xb7) -0.68/21 7} 12. Nbd4 {+0.73/22 8} Rad8
{(Ra8-d8 Bf1-c4 Nc6xd4 c3xd4 c7-c5 Kd1-e2 c5xd4 Nf3xd4 Bf5-g4+ Ke2-f1
Ba5-b6 Nd4-b5 Nd5-e7 h2-h3 Bg4-e6 Bc4xe6 f7xe6 Kf1-e2 Ne7-f5 Rh1-d1 Bb6xe3
Rd1xd8 Rf8xd8 f2xe3 Nf5xg3+ Ke2-f3 Ng3-f5 Nb5xa7) -0.49/22 11} 13. Rc1
{(Ra1-c1 Nc6xd4 c3xd4 c7-c6 Bf1-c4 f7-f6 Kd1-e2 h7-h5 Bc4-d3 Bf5xd3+ Ke2xd3
Nd5-b4+ Kd3-e2 Nb4-d5 a2-a3 g7-g5 h2-h4 g5-g4 Nf3-e1 Ba5-b6 Ne1-d3 Kg8-g7
b2-b4 a7-a5 Nd3-f4 Nd5xf4+ Bg3xf4) +1.09/23 8} Nxd4 {(Nc6xd4 c3xd4 Ba5-b6
Bf1-c4 c7-c5 Bg3-h4 Nd5-f6 Bh4xf6 g7xf6 d4-d5 Bf5-e4 Kd1-e2 Be4xd5 Bc4xd5
Rd8xd5 Rh1-d1 Rf8-d8 Rd1xd5 Rd8xd5 e3-e4 Rd5-d8 Nf3-d2 Rd8-d4 Ke2-e3 Rd4-d8
Nd2-c4 Bb6-c7) -0.72/22 10} 14. cxd4 {(c3xd4 c7-c6 Bf1-c4 Rf8-e8 Kd1-e2
f7-f6 Bc4-d3 Bf5-e6 a2-a3 g7-g6 h2-h3 Ba5-b6 Rh1-d1 Kg8-g7 Ke2-f1 Nd5-e7
Kf1-g1 Ne7-f5 Bg3-h2 h7-h5 Nf3-d2 Nf5-d6 Bh2xd6 Rd8xd6) +1.06/25 8} Bb6
{(Ba5-b6 Bf1-c4 c7-c5 Bg3-h4 Rd8-d6 Rh1-e1 Nd5-f6 Bh4xf6 g7xf6 d4-d5 Bf5-e4
Kd1-e2 Rf8-d8 Re1-d1 Kg8-f8 h2-h3 h7-h5 Bc4-b3 Rd6-d7 a2-a4 Be4xd5 Bb3xd5
Rd7xd5 Rd1xd5 Rd8xd5) -0.67/22 6} 15. Nd2 {(Nf3-d2 c7-c6 Nd2-c4 Bb6-c7
Kd1-d2 Bf5-e6 Bf1-d3 h7-h5 a2-a3 g7-g6 Kd2-e2 Rf8-e8 Bg3xc7 Nd5xc7 Nc4-e5
Be6-d5 Rh1-g1 Kg8-g7 g2-g3 a7-a5 Bd3-c4 a5-a4 Bc4xd5 Rd8xd5 Ke2-f3)
+1.26/24 8} Rfe8 {(Rf8-e8 a2-a3 c7-c6 Bf1-e2 Nd5-f6 Nd2-c4 Nf6-e4 Nc4xb6
a7xb6 Be2-f3 Rd8-d7 Bf3xe4 Bf5xe4 f2-f3 Be4-g6 Kd1-d2 c6-c5 Bg3-f2 f7-f6
Rh1-e1 Bg6-f7 Kd2-c3 Rd7-d8) -0.68/21 18} 16. Be2 {(Bf1-e2 c7-c6 Nd2-c4
Re8-e7 Kd1-d2 Bb6-c7 Bg3xc7 Nd5xc7 b2-b4 h7-h6 Be2-f3 Bf5-e6 a2-a4 f7-f6
Rh1-g1 Nc7-d5 Bf3xd5 Be6xd5 Kd2-e2 b7-b6 h2-h3 Kg8-h7 f2-f3 b6-b5 a4xb5
c6xb5) +1.16/24 7} c6 {(c7-c6 Nd2-c4 Re8-e7 Nc4xb6 a7xb6 Kd1-e1 b6-b5
Ke1-d2 h7-h6 a2-a3 Nd5-b6 h2-h3 Bf5-e6 Be2-d3 Be6-c4 Bd3xc4 Nb6xc4+ Kd2-c2
Re7-d7 Kc2-b1 Nc4-d2+ Kb1-a2 Nd2-e4 Rh1-d1) -0.92/23 20} 17. Nc4 {(Nd2-c4
Bb6-c7 Bg3xc7 Nd5xc7 Nc4-a5 Bf5-c8 Be2-f3 g7-g6 Na5-b3 h7-h5 g2-g3 Re8-e7
Kd1-d2 Nc7-d5 a2-a3 Nd5-f6 Kd2-e2 Kg8-g7 h2-h4 Bc8-f5 Rh1-d1 Kg7-h6 Nb3-c5
a7-a5 Nc5-d3 Kh6-g7 Nd3-e5) +1.19/26 7} Re7 {(Re8-e7 Nc4xb6 a7xb6 Kd1-e1
b6-b5 Ke1-d2 Bf5-e6 a2-a3 Nd5-b6 Be2-d3 f7-f6 h2-h3) -0.88/22 3} 18. Kd2
{(Kd1-d2 Bb6-c7 Bg3xc7 Nd5xc7 b2-b4 Nc7-d5 a2-a3 Nd5-f6 Be2-d3 Bf5xd3
Kd2xd3 g7-g6 g2-g3 Kg8-g7 f2-f3 Nf6-d5 Rh1-e1 h7-h5 Nc4-d2 Re7-e8 e3-e4
Nd5-c7 Nd2-b3 Nc7-b5 a3-a4 Nb5-d6 Nb3-c5) +1.26/25 7} Bc7 {(Bb6-c7 Rh1-d1
Bc7xg3 h2xg3 Bf5-e6 a2-a3 Nd5-f6 Be2-d3 Nf6-g4 Kd2-e2 g7-g6 Nc4-d2 Be6-d5
Nd2-f3 Kg8-g7 Bd3-c4 Bd5-e4 Ke2-f1 Re7-e8 Nf3-d2 Be4-d5 Bc4xd5 Rd8xd5
Kf1-g1) -0.83/22 4} 19. Bxc7 {(Bg3xc7 Nd5xc7 b2-b4 Nc7-d5 a2-a3 Nd5-f6
Be2-d3 Bf5xd3 Kd2xd3 g7-g6 Rh1-e1 Kg8-g7 f2-f3 Nf6-d5 g2-g4 g6-g5 e3-e4
Nd5-f4+ Kd3-c3 Nf4-e6 Re1-d1 Re7-d7 d4-d5 c6xd5 Nc4-e5 Rd7-e7 Rd1xd5)
+1.30/24 7} Nxc7 {(Nd5xc7 b2-b4 Nc7-a6 Kd2-c3 Na6-c7 Be2-f3 f7-f6 h2-h4
Bf5-e6 Kc3-b2 Nc7-d5 a2-a3 Nd5-c7 g2-g3 Be6-f7 h4-h5 h7-h6 Rh1-d1 Bf7-e6
g3-g4 Nc7-d5 e3-e4 Nd5-f4 Nc4-e3) -0.96/20 5} 20. b4 {(b2-b4 Nc7-a6 Kd2-c3
Na6-c7 Be2-f3 h7-h6 a2-a4 f7-f6 Kc3-b3 Nc7-d5 g2-g3 Bf5-e6 Kb3-a3 Nd5-c7
h2-h4 Be6-d5 Bf3xd5+ Nc7xd5 Rh1-e1 a7-a6 a4-a5 g7-g6 Re1-g1 Kg8-g7)
+1.34/24 7} Na6 {(Nc7-a6 Kd2-c3 g7-g6 a2-a3 Na6-c7 h2-h4 Bf5-e4 Be2-f3
Nc7-d5+ Kc3-b2 Nd5-f6 Bf3xe4 Nf6xe4 Rc1-c2 h7-h5 Rh1-c1 Re7-e8 Nc4-a5
Ne4-d6 Na5-b3 Kg8-g7 Nb3-c5) -0.97/20 8} 21. Kc3 {(Kd2-c3 Na6-c7 Be2-f3
Nc7-d5+ Bf3xd5 c6xd5 Nc4-d2 Rd8-c8+ Kc3-b2 Re7-c7 Rc1xc7 Rc8xc7 Rh1-c1
Rc7xc1 Kb2xc1 h7-h5 a2-a4 g7-g5 Kc1-b2 Kg8-g7 g2-g3 Kg7-g6 h2-h4 f7-f6
Kb2-b3 g5xh4 g3xh4) +1.44/23 7} f6 {(f7-f6 h2-h4 Na6-c7 Be2-f3 Bf5-g6
Kc3-b2 Nc7-d5 a2-a3 h7-h5 Bf3xd5+ Rd8xd5 Nc4-d2 Bg6-f7 Rc1-c5 Rd5xc5 d4xc5
Bf7-d5 Rh1-g1 Re7-e8 g2-g4 h5xg4 Rg1xg4) -0.99/20 6} 22. a3 {(a2-a3 Na6-c7
Be2-d3 Bf5-e6 Rh1-g1 b7-b6 g2-g4 Re7-d7 Bd3-e4 Be6-d5 Be4-f5 Rd7-f7 h2-h4
g7-g6 Bf5-d3 Kg8-g7 a3-a4 Rf7-f8 h4-h5 Bd5xc4 Bd3xc4) +1.52/22 6} Nc7
{(Na6-c7 Be2-f3 Bf5-d7 Kc3-b2 Bd7-e6 h2-h4 Be6-f7 g2-g4 Nc7-b5 Rh1-d1
Re7-d7 Nc4-d2 Nb5-d6 Rd1-h1 Rd7-e7) -1.06/21 3} 23. h4 {+1.50/21 6} Nb5+
{(Nc7-b5+ Kc3-d2 Bf5-e4 Rh1-g1 f6-f5 a3-a4 Nb5-c7 g2-g3 g7-g6 h4-h5 Kg8-g7
f2-f3 Be4-d5 Rg1-h1 g6-g5 h5-h6+ Kg7-g6 Rh1-h2 Kg6-f6 f3-f4 Bd5xc4 Be2xc4
Nc7-d5 Bc4xd5 c6xd5 Rc1-c5) -1.06/20 8} 24. Kd2 {(Kc3-d2 Bf5-e6 g2-g4 g7-g6
h4-h5 Kg8-g7 h5-h6+ Kg7-f8 a3-a4 Be6xc4 Be2xc4 Nb5xd4 e3xd4 Rd8xd4+ Kd2-c3
Rd4xg4 Rc1-e1 Re7xe1 Rh1xe1 Rg4-h4 Re1-e6 Rh4-f4 Re6-e2 Rf4-f3+ Bc4-d3
Rf3-h3 Kc3-d4 Rh3xh6) +1.70/24 6} Be6 {(Bf5-e6 Be2-d3 b7-b6 h4-h5 Be6-d5
f2-f3 h7-h6 Rh1-g1 Nb5-c7 Rg1-e1 Nc7-b5 a3-a4 Nb5-c7 Nc4-b2 Bd5-f7 Bd3-g6
Bf7xg6 h5xg6 Nc7-d5 Nb2-d3) -1.09/20 5} 25. g4 {(g2-g4 Kg8-h8 Rh1-g1 g7-g6
a3-a4 Nb5-c7 Nc4-b2 Kh8-g7 Nb2-d3 Nc7-d5 h4-h5 Nd5-b6 Nd3-c5 Nb6-d5 Nc5xe6+
Re7xe6 Be2-c4 Re6-e8 Bc4xd5 Rd8xd5 Rg1-h1 a7-a5 b4-b5 g6xh5 b5xc6) +1.77/24
6} Bf7 {(Be6-f7 g4-g5 Kg8-h8 g5xf6 g7xf6 Rc1-a1 Re7-e4 Be2-d3 Re4-g4 Ra1-g1
Rg4xg1 Rh1xg1 Bf7xc4 Bd3xc4 Nb5xa3 Bc4-d3 Na3-b5 h4-h5 a7-a6 h5-h6 Rd8-g8
Rg1xg8+ Kh8xg8 Kd2-c2 Nb5-d6 Kc2-b3 Nd6-f7 Bd3-c4) -1.18/20 8} 26. Bd3
{(Be2-d3 Kg8-h8 Rh1-g1 Bf7-e6 a3-a4 Nb5-c7 g4-g5 Rd8-f8 f2-f4 Nc7-d5 g5xf6
Rf8xf6 b4-b5 c6xb5 a4xb5 Nd5xf4 e3xf4 Rf6xf4 Kd2-c3 Re7-d7 Rc1-e1 Be6xc4)
+1.85/22 6} Red7 {(Re7-d7 g4-g5 Kg8-h8 g5xf6 g7xf6 h4-h5 Bf7xc4 Rc1xc4
Nb5xa3 Rc4-c5 a7-a6 Rc5-f5 Rd8-f8 h5-h6 Na3-b5 Bd3xb5 a6xb5 Rh1-g1 Rd7-f7
e3-e4 Rf7-d7) -1.25/19 4} 27. g5 {(g4-g5 Kg8-f8 Nc4-b2 Bf7-d5 Rh1-g1 Rd7-f7
f2-f4 g7-g6 Bd3xb5 c6xb5 g5xf6 Rf7xf6 Nb2-d3 Bd5-c4 Nd3-c5 Rf6-b6 Kd2-c3
Bc4-f7 h4-h5 g6xh5 e3-e4 Bf7-e6 e4-e5) +2.05/23 6} Kh8 {(Kg8-h8 g5xf6 g7xf6
Nc4-b2 Nb5-d6 Rh1-g1 Rd7-e7 Nb2-c4 Bf7xc4 Bd3xc4 f6-f5 Bc4-d3 f5-f4 Rc1-c5
f4xe3+ f2xe3 Rd8-e8 Rg1-g3 Nd6-e4+ Bd3xe4 Re7xe4 h4-h5 Re4-h4 b4-b5 Rh4-h2+
Kd2-c3 c6xb5 Rc5xb5 b7-b6 Rb5-f5 Re8-c8+ Kc3-d3 Rc8-d8) -1.45/22 5} 28. Nb2
{+2.04/24 6} Nd6 {(Nb5-d6 g5xf6 g7xf6 Rh1-g1 Bf7-g8 a3-a4 Rd7-e7 Nb2-c4
Bg8xc4 Bd3xc4 a7-a5 b4xa5 c6-c5 d4-d5 Nd6xc4+ Rc1xc4 Rd8xd5+ Kd2-e2 Re7-c7
f2-f4 Rd5-h5 Rc4-e4 h7-h6 Re4-e6 Rh5xh4 Re6xf6 c5-c4) -1.49/21 6} 29. gxf6
{(g5xf6 g7xf6 Nb2-a4 f6-f5 Rh1-g1 Rd7-e7 Na4-c3 f5-f4 Rg1-g4 f4xe3+ f2xe3
Nd6-c4+ Bd3xc4 Bf7xc4 Nc3-e2 Bc4xe2 Kd2xe2 Rd8-e8 Rc1-c3 h7-h6 Ke2-f3
Kh8-h7 e3-e4 h6-h5 Rg4-f4 Re8-g8 e4-e5) +2.05/24 5} gxf6 {(g7xf6 Rh1-g1
Rd7-e7 Nb2-c4 Bf7xc4 Bd3xc4 f6-f5 Bc4-d3 f5-f4 a3-a4 Rd8-e8 Rc1-e1 f4xe3+
f2xe3 Nd6-e4+ Bd3xe4 Re7xe4 h4-h5 Re4-h4 Rg1-h1 Rh4-g4 h5-h6 Rg4-g2+ Re1-e2
Rg2-g4 Kd2-d3 Kh8-g8 Re2-e1 Kg8-f7 Rh1-g1 Rg4xg1 Re1xg1) -1.51/23 3} 30.
Rhg1 {(Rh1-g1 Rd8-g8 Rg1xg8+ Bf7xg8 a3-a4 Rd7-g7 b4-b5 c6xb5 a4xb5 Bg8-d5
Kd2-e2 Bd5-e6 Rc1-c5 Be6-g4+ f2-f3 Bg4-e6 Nb2-d1 Rg7-g1 Rc5-c7 Rg1-g7
Rc7xg7 Kh8xg7 Nd1-c3 h7-h6) +2.17/24 5} Ra8 {(Rd8-a8 Nb2-c4 Bf7xc4 Bd3xc4
a7-a5 Bc4-b3 Rd7-d8 Kd2-c2 Rd8-e8 Kc2-b2 a5xb4 a3xb4 f6-f5 d4-d5 Nd6-e4
Rc1-c2 c6xd5 Bb3xd5 Re8-e7 Rg1-c1 Ne4-f6 Bd5-b3 Ra8-d8 Rc2-c8 Rd8xc8
Rc1xc8+ Kh8-g7) -1.40/21 3} 31. Nc4 {+2.12/22 5} Bxc4 {(Bf7xc4 Bd3xc4 a7-a5
b4xa5 Rd7-g7 Rg1xg7 Kh8xg7 Rc1-g1+ Kg7-h6 Bc4-d3 Ra8xa5 Rg1-g8 f6-f5 f2-f3
Ra5xa3 Rg8-d8 Nd6-b5 Rd8-d7 Kh6-g6 Rd7xb7 Ra3-a2+ Kd2-e1 Ra2-a3 Bd3xb5
c6xb5 Ke1-f2 f5-f4 Rb7-b6+ Kg6-f7 e3xf4 Ra3-d3 Rb6xb5 Rd3xd4 Kf2-e3 Rd4-c4
Rb5-b7+ Kf7-g6) -1.55/24 9} 32. Bxc4 {(Bd3xc4 a7-a5 Bc4-b3 Rd7-e7 b4xa5
Re7-g7 Kd2-d3 Ra8xa5 a3-a4 Ra5-h5 Rg1xg7 Kh8xg7 Rc1-g1+ Kg7-h6 Rg1-g4
Rh5-f5 Kd3-e2 Rf5-h5 Bb3-c2 f6-f5 Rg4-f4 Kh6-g7 a4-a5 Kg7-g6 Ke2-d3 Kg6-f7)
+2.09/26 5} a5 {(a7-a5 b4xa5 Rd7-g7 Rg1xg7 Kh8xg7 Rc1-g1+ Kg7-h6 Bc4-d3
Ra8xa5 Rg1-g8 f6-f5 f2-f3 Ra5xa3 Rg8-d8 Nd6-b5 Rd8-d7 Kh6-g6 Rd7xb7 Ra3-a2+
Kd2-e1 Ra2-a3 Bd3xb5 c6xb5 Ke1-f2 f5-f4 Rb7-b6+ Kg6-f7 e3xf4 Ra3-d3 Rb6xb5
Rd3xd4 Kf2-e3 Rd4-c4 Rb5-b6 h7-h5) -1.51/23 4} 33. Bb3 {+2.08/25 5} Rdd8
{(Rd7-d8 Kd2-d3 a5xb4 a3xb4 Ra8-a3 Kd3-c2 Ra3-a8 Kc2-b2 f6-f5 d4-d5 c6xd5
Bb3xd5 Rd8-d7 Rc1-d1 Rd7-c7 Rg1-g5 h7-h6 Rg5-g6 Nd6-c4+ Bd5xc4 Rc7xc4
Rg6xh6+ Kh8-g7 Rh6-b6) -1.46/22 7} 34. Rg2 {(Rg1-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 f6-f5
Rc1-g1 f5-f4 Kd2-d3 Nd6-f5 Rg2-g4 f4xe3 f2xe3 Nf5-e7 e3-e4 Ne7-g6 Kd3-e3
Ng6-e7 h4-h5 Ra8-a3 Rg1-b1 Rd8-e8 Ke3-f4 Ne7-g8 e4-e5 Ng8-h6 Rg4-g3 Re8-f8+
Kf4-e4 Rf8-f2 Rg3-f3 Rf2xf3 Ke4xf3 Kh8-g7 Rb1-g1+) +2.31/26 5} axb4 {(a5xb4
a3xb4 f6-f5 Rc1-g1 Rd8-e8 Kd2-d3 f5-f4 Rg2-g4 f4xe3 f2xe3 Re8-d8 Rg4-g7
b7-b6 Rg7-c7 Ra8-a3 Kd3-c2 Nd6-f5 Kc2-b2 Rd8-a8 d4-d5 c6-c5 b4xc5 b6xc5)
-1.63/22 5} 35. axb4 {+2.17/24 5} Re8 {(Rd8-e8 Rc1-g1 f6-f5 Kd2-d3 f5-f4
Rg2-g4 f4xe3 f2xe3 Re8-f8 h4-h5 Ra8-d8 Rg4-g7 Rf8-e8 Rg7-g5 Nd6-e4 Rg5-f5
Ne4-d6 Rf5-f6 Nd6-e4 Rf6-e6 Re8xe6 Bb3xe6 Ne4-f6 h5-h6 Rd8-e8) -1.71/23 10}
36. Rcg1 {(Rc1-g1 Nd6-e4+) +2.54/25 4} f5 {(f6-f5 Kd2-d3 Ra8-d8 h4-h5 f5-f4
Rg2-g4 Re8-f8 Rg4xf4 Rf8xf4 e3xf4 Nd6-b5 d4-d5 Nb5-c7 Rg1-g5 Nc7xd5 Bb3xd5
Rd8xd5+ Rg5xd5 c6xd5 Kd3-d4 Kh8-g7 Kd4xd5 Kg7-f6 Kd5-c5 Kf6-e6) -1.93/24 8}
37. Kd3 {(Kd2-d3 Nd6-b5 Rg2-g7) +2.63/26 4} Rad8 {(Ra8-d8 h4-h5 f5-f4
Rg2-g4 Re8-f8 Rg4-g7 f4xe3 f2xe3 Rf8-e8 Rg7-g4 Re8-f8 Rg1-g3 Nd6-b5 Rg4-g7
Rd8-a8 Rg3-g1 Nb5-d6 h5-h6 Nd6-f5 Rg7xb7 Ra8-a3 Kd3-c2 Nf5-d6 Rb7-d7)
-2.01/23 11} 38. h5 {+2.71/25 4} Ne4 {(Nd6-e4 f2-f3 Ne4-d6 Rg2-g7 b7-b6
Rg7-a7 Nd6-b5 Ra7-f7 Nb5-d6 Rf7-f6 c6-c5 b4xc5 b6xc5 Bb3-d5 c5xd4 e3xd4
Nd6-b5 Rf6xf5 Rd8-c8 Bd5-e4 Rc8-c3+ Kd3-d2 Nb5xd4 Kd2xc3 Nd4-e2+ Kc3-c4
Ne2xg1 Rf5-f7 Kh8-g8) -2.07/22 5} 39. f3 {(f2-f3 Ne4-f6 Rg2-g5 Nf6-d5
Bb3xd5 Rd8xd5 Rg5-g7 Re8-d8 Rg1-g5 f5-f4 Rg5xd5 Rd8xd5 Rg7xb7 f4xe3 h5-h6
Kh8-g8 Rb7-g7+ Kg8-f8 Kd3xe3 Rd5-d6 Rg7xh7 Kf8-g8 Rh7-g7+ Kg8-f8 Rg7-c7
Rd6xh6 f3-f4 Rh6-h3+ Ke3-e4 Rh3-b3 Rc7xc6 Rb3xb4) +3.18/27 4} Nd6 {(Ne4-d6
Rg2-g7 b7-b6 Kd3-e2 Nd6-b5 Ke2-f2 Re8-f8 Rg1-g5 Rd8-a8 Rg7-d7 Ra8-a7 Rd7xa7
Nb5xa7 Bb3-a4 Rf8-f6 Kf2-e2 h7-h6 Rg5-g1 Rf6-d6 Ke2-d3 Rd6-f6 Ba4-b3 Na7-b5
Rg1-g6 Rf6xg6 h5xg6) -2.41/23 4} 40. Rg7 {(Rg2-g7 b7-b6 Bb3-f7 Nd6xf7
Rg7xf7 Rd8-a8 h5-h6 Re8-e6 Rf7xf5 Re6xh6 Kd3-e4 Rh6-h2 b4-b5 c6xb5 Rf5xb5
h7-h5 Rb5xb6 Ra8-e8+ Ke4-d3 Kh8-h7 Rg1-g5 h5-h4 d4-d5 Rh2-a2 Rg5-h5+ Kh7-g7
e3-e4 Ra2-a3+ Kd3-d4 Ra3-a4+ Kd4-e3 Ra4-a3+ Ke3-f4 Re8-f8+ Kf4-e5 Ra3xf3
Rh5xh4) +3.24/28 4} b6 {(b7-b6 Kd3-d2 Re8-f8 Rg7-e7 Rf8-e8 Re7-c7 Nd6-b5
Rc7-g7 Re8-f8 Rg1-g5 Rd8-a8 Rg7-b7 Ra8-a7 Rb7xb6 f5-f4 Rb6xc6 f4xe3+ Kd2xe3
Ra7-a3 Rg5xb5 Ra3xb3+ Ke3-e4 Rb3xf3 Rb5-g5 Rf3-b3 b4-b5 Rf8-e8+ Rg5-e5
Re8xe5+ d4xe5 Rb3xb5 e5-e6 Rb5-b7 Ke4-d5) -2.57/22 3} 41. Bf7 {(Bb3-f7
Nd6xf7 Rg7xf7 Rd8-a8 h5-h6 Re8-e6 Rf7xf5 Re6xh6 Kd3-e4 Ra8-g8 Rg1-a1 Rh6-h2
Ra1-a6 Rg8-b8 Ra6-a7 Rh2-b2 Ra7-c7 Rb2xb4 Rc7xc6 Rb8-e8+ Ke4-f4 Kh8-g8
Rc6-c7 b6-b5 Rf5-g5+ Kg8-h8 Rg5-g7 Re8-f8+ Kf4-e5 Rf8-e8+ Rg7-e7 Re8xe7+
Rc7xe7 Rb4-b3 Ke5-f4 h7-h5 d4-d5 h5-h4 d5-d6) +3.33/28 4} Nxf7 {(Nd6xf7
Rg7xf7 Rd8-a8 h5-h6 Re8-e6 Rf7xf5 Re6xh6 b4-b5 c6xb5 Rf5xb5 Rh6-e6 Rb5-b3
h7-h5 e3-e4 Re6-f6 Kd3-e3 Ra8-f8 Rg1-f1 h5-h4 e4-e5 Rf6-h6 d4-d5 h4-h3
Rf1-h1 Kh8-g7 d5-d6 h3-h2 Rb3xb6 Rf8-d8 Rb6-b7+ Kg7-g6) -2.47/22 3} 42.
Rxf7 {(Rg7xf7) +3.36/25 4} Ra8 {(Rd8-a8 h5-h6 Re8-e6 Rf7xf5 Re6xh6 b4-b5
c6xb5 d4-d5 Rh6-d6 e3-e4 Ra8-a3+ Kd3-d4 Rd6-g6 Rg1xg6 h7xg6 Rf5-f6 Kh8-g7
Rf6xb6 Ra3xf3 Rb6xb5 Rf3-f1 e4-e5 Rf1-e1 Rb5-b7+ Kg7-f8 Rb7-b6 Re1-d1+
Kd4-c5 g6-g5 Rb6-g6 Rd1-c1+ Kc5-d6) -2.80/22 5} 43. h6 {+3.37/27 4} Re6
{(Re8-e6 Rf7xf5 Re6xh6 b4-b5 c6xb5 d4-d5 Rh6-h2 e3-e4 Ra8-a3+ Kd3-d4
Rh2-d2+ Kd4-e5 Ra3-a8 Rf5-f6 Rd2-d3 f3-f4 b5-b4 Rf6xb6 Ra8-e8+ Ke5-f5
Rd3-d4 d5-d6 h7-h5 e4-e5 Re8-f8+ Kf5-e6 h5-h4 d6-d7 Rd4xf4 Rg1-d1) -2.82/23
4} 44. Rxf5 {(Rf7xf5 Re6xh6 Kd3-e4 Ra8-g8 Rg1-a1 Rg8-c8 Ra1-a6 b6-b5 f3-f4
Kh8-g7 Ra6-a7+ Kg7-g8 Rf5-c5 Rh6-e6+ Ke4-f3 Rc8-e8 Rc5-e5 h7-h5 Kf3-e4
Re6xe5+ d4xe5 h5-h4 f4-f5 h4-h3 f5-f6 Re8-f8 Ra7-g7+ Kg8-h8 Ke4-f5 h3-h2)
+3.35/26 4} Rxh6 {(Re6xh6 b4-b5 Rh6-e6 b5xc6 Ra8-a3+ Kd3-c4 Re6xc6+ Kc4-b4
Ra3-a8 d4-d5 Rc6-c2 e3-e4 Ra8-c8 Kb4-b5 Rc2-d2 Rf5-f6 Rd2-b2+ Kb5-a6 b6-b5
e4-e5 Rb2-d2 Ka6-b7 Rc8-e8 d5-d6) -2.79/20 3} 45. Ke4 {(Kd3-e4 Ra8-g8
Rg1-a1 Rg8-c8 Ra1-a6 b6-b5 f3-f4 Kh8-g7 Ra6-a7+ Kg7-g8 Rf5-e5 Rh6-g6 Ra7-e7
Rg6-g1 f4-f5 Rg1-g4+ Ke4-f3 Rg4-g1 Re5-e6 h7-h5 Re6-h6 Kg8-f8 Re7-e6 Kf8-g7
Rh6xh5 Rg1-b1 Rh5-h6 Rb1xb4 Re6xc6) +3.51/23 4} Re8+ {(Ra8-e8+ Rf5-e5
Re8-g8 Rg1-c1 Rg8-a8 b4-b5 c6xb5 Re5xb5 Kh8-g8 Rb5-g5+ Kg8-f8 d4-d5 Rh6-f6
f3-f4 h7-h6 Rg5-g1 Rf6-d6 Rc1-c6 Rd6xc6 d5xc6 Kf8-e7 f4-f5 Ra8-a4+ Ke4-e5
Ra4-a5+ Ke5-f4 Ra5-c5 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7-d7+ Kd8-e8 Rd7-d6 h6-h5) -2.55/21
6} 46. Re5 {(Rf5-e5 Re8-c8 f3-f4 Rh6-f6 b4-b5 c6xb5 Re5xb5 Rc8-g8 Rg1-c1
Rf6-g6 Rb5-e5 Rg8-d8 Rc1-c7 Kh8-g8 d4-d5 Rg6-g1 Rc7-b7 Rg1-b1 Re5-g5+
Kg8-f8 Rg5-f5+ Kf8-g8 Rb7-c7 b6-b5 Rf5-g5+ Kg8-h8 Rg5-h5) +3.67/24 4} Rb8
{(Re8-b8 f3-f4 Rh6-f6 Re5-e7 h7-h5 Rg1-h1 Rf6-h6 f4-f5 h5-h4 Rh1-h3 Kh8-g8
Ke4-f4 Rb8-f8 Kf4-g5 Rh6-f6 e3-e4 Rf6-f7 Re7-e6 Rf8-d8 Re6-g6+ Kg8-f8)
-2.79/21 7} 47. Re7 {(Re5-e7 Rb8-g8) +3.88/22 4} Rg8 {(Rb8-g8 Rg1xg8+
Kh8xg8 f3-f4 Rh6-f6 Ke4-e5 Rf6-f7 Re7-e6 h7-h5 f4-f5 h5-h4 Re6xc6 h4-h3
Rc6-c2 Rf7-e7+ Ke5-f4 Re7-h7 Rc2-c8+ Kg8-g7 Rc8-c7+ Kg7-g8 Rc7xh7 Kg8xh7
Kf4-g3 Kh7-g7 Kg3xh3 Kg7-f6 Kh3-g4 b6-b5 d4-d5) -3.03/19 2} 48. Rxg8+
{(Rg1xg8+ Kh8xg8 f3-f4 Kg8-f8 Re7-b7 Rh6-e6+ Ke4-d3 Re6-e7 Rb7-b8+ Kf8-f7
e3-e4 h7-h5 e4-e5 c6-c5 b4xc5 b6xc5 d4-d5 Re7-a7 Kd3-e4 c5-c4 Rb8-c8 h5-h4
Rc8-h8 Ra7-a1 Rh8-h7+ Kf7-g6 Rh7xh4 c4-c3 d5-d6) +4.09/24 3} Kxg8 {(Kh8xg8
f3-f4 Rh6-f6 Ke4-e5 Rf6-h6 f4-f5) -2.54/5 0} 49. f4 {(f3-f4 Rh6-h2 Re7-c7
Rh2-b2 Rc7xc6 Rb2xb4 Ke4-e5 b6-b5 Rc6-c8+ Kg8-f7 Rc8-c7+ Kf7-g6 f4-f5+
Kg6-g5 Rc7xh7 Rb4-b1 d4-d5 b5-b4 d5-d6 b4-b3 Rh7-g7+ Kg5-h6 Rg7-b7 b3-b2
f5-f6 Rb1-e1) +4.27/24 3} Rd6 {(Rh6-d6 f4-f5 h7-h6) -3.55/20 5} 50. Ke5
{(Ke4-e5 Rd6-d5+ Ke5-e6 Rd5-d8 f4-f5 h7-h6 Ke6-e5 Rd8-c8 f5-f6 Rc8-d8 e3-e4
h6-h5 Re7-c7 h5-h4 Rc7-g7+ Kg8-f8 Rg7-h7 Kf8-g8 Rh7xh4 c6-c5 Ke5-e6 Rd8-e8+
Ke6-d7 Re8-b8 Rh4-g4+ Kg8-f7 e4-e5 c5xd4 Rg4-g7+ Kf7-f8 e5-e6) +5.19/25 3}
Rg6 {(Rd6-g6 f4-f5 Rg6-g3 e3-e4 h7-h5 Re7-c7 c6-c5 d4xc5 b6xc5 b4xc5 h5-h4
Rc7-c8+ Kg8-f7 Rc8-h8 Rg3-c3 Rh8-h7+ Kf7-f8 Ke5-d4 Rc3-c1 e4-e5 Rc1-d1+
Kd4-e4 Rd1-c1) -4.40/20 3} 51. f5 {(f4-f5) +5.84/21 3} Rg3 {(Rg6-g3 e3-e4
h7-h5 Re7-c7 h5-h4 Rc7xc6 Kg8-h7) -5.04/20 2} 52. e4 {(e3-e4) +6.91/22 3}
h5 {(h7-h5 Re7-c7 h5-h4 Rc7xc6 Kg8-f7 Rc6xb6 Rg3-b3 d4-d5 h4-h3 Rb6-h6
Kf7-g7 Rh6-h5 Kg7-f7) -5.41/19 2} 53. f6 {(f5-f6) +8.08/22 3} Re3 {(Rg3-e3
Re7-c7 Re3-a3 Rc7xc6 Ra3-a8 Rc6xb6 Kg8-h7) -6.02/17 2} 54. Rg7+ {(Re7-g7+)
+9.46/24 3} Kf8 {(Kg8-f8 Rg7-h7 Kf8-e8 Rh7xh5 b6-b5 Rh5-h8+ Ke8-f7 Rh8-h7+
Kf7-e8 Rh7-c7 Ke8-d8 f6-f7 Re3-f3) -6.72/20 2} 55. Rh7 {(Rg7-h7 h5-h4
Rh7xh4 Re3-f3 Rh4-h7 Rf3-e3 Rh7-c7 Re3-e1 Rc7xc6 Kf8-f7 Rc6xb6 Re1-h1
Rb6-b7+ Kf7-g6 d4-d5 Rh1-h5+ Ke5-e6 Kg6-g5 f6-f7 Rh5-h8 e4-e5 Kg5-f4 d5-d6
Kf4-e4 b4-b5) +10.18/26 3} Re2 {(Re3-e2 Rh7xh5 Kf8-g8 Rh5-g5+ Kg8-f8 Rg5-g7
Re2-f2) -7.47/21 2} 56. Rxh5 {(Rh7xh5) +11.15/23 3} Kg8 {(Kf8-g8 Rh5-g5+
Kg8-f8 Rg5-g7 Re2-a2 Rg7-h7 Ra2-e2) -8.11/23 2} 57. Rg5+ {+12.36/26 3} Kf8
{(Kg8-f8 Rg5-g7 Re2-a2 Rg7-h7 c6-c5) -8.90/21 2} 58. Rg7 {(Rg5-g7)
+13.33/26 7} Ra2 {(Re2-a2 Rg7-h7) -9.16/20 1} 59. Rc7 {(Rg7-c7) +14.77/25
3} Re2 {(Ra2-e2 Rc7xc6 Kf8-f7) -11.09/19 1} 60. Rxc6 {+18.00/29 7} Kf7
{(Kf8-f7 d4-d5 Re2-e1 Rc6-c7+ Kf7-e8 Rc7-c8+ Ke8-d7) -16.12/19 2 Arena
Adjudication} 1-0
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A new test is on way:
Still nostalgic on E..n agent (7).7(0) !
macOS Sequoia 16GB-512GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64. Sylwy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:33 amJawohl ! Agreed !AlexChess wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:10 am To be fair, Fritz 18 has 100 ELO less than Fritz 17
No. Not really an upgrade
From the monastery where I follow (a semester or two) a detox cure for clones, I can confirm! Here I am allowed to use only originals ......... preferably commercial ....!
Fritz 18 is a fiasco like chess engine..........like GUI ....so & so. I'm still studying. It doesn't impress me anyway.
...And after 2 years of hard development Chessbase finally releases Fritz 18 +1 point ELO!!
Blitz 150 secs x 40 moves + 150 secs x 40 moves + 1 sec /all (6 mins on average) 3 Mn/s 4 CPUs
148 games against all TOP engines
macOS Sequoia 16GB-512GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64.You could probably take another 100 elo off of the latest Fritz and it would still be more suited to purpose than a monster engine like Stockfish. Not every engine and GUI is intended for engine tournaments.Sylwy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:33 amJawohl ! Agreed !AlexChess wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:10 am To be fair, Fritz 18 has 100 ELO less than Fritz 17
No. Not really an upgrade
From the monastery where I follow (a semester or two) a detox cure for clones, I can confirm! Here I am allowed to use only originals ......... preferably commercial ....!
Fritz 18 is a fiasco like chess engine..........like GUI ....so & so. I'm still studying. It doesn't impress me anyway.
And an engine like A0lite with its neural network is more suited to purpose than a Fritz 18 using handcrafted evaluation.
If the purpose is to demonstrate how easy it is to write a basic mcts/nn engine, then yes. But that has nothing to do with Fritz.Madeleine Birchfield wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:19 pmAnd an engine like A0lite with its neural network is more suited to purpose than a Fritz 18 using handcrafted evaluation.
Fritz WAS for experts chess players (as Powerbooks and various addons existence proof) before becoming 500 ELO out of top engines strength standards. As already said, occasional players use random programs searching preferably a nice graphic (3D?) and funny features like avatars / bots. They doesn't want to pay 80€ for it having a wide offer of free online and offline apps.dkappe wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:56 pmYou could probably take another 100 elo off of the latest Fritz and it would still be more suited to purpose than a monster engine like Stockfish. Not every engine and GUI is intended for engine tournaments.Sylwy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:33 amJawohl ! Agreed !AlexChess wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:10 am To be fair, Fritz 18 has 100 ELO less than Fritz 17
No. Not really an upgrade
From the monastery where I follow (a semester or two) a detox cure for clones, I can confirm! Here I am allowed to use only originals ......... preferably commercial ....!
Fritz 18 is a fiasco like chess engine..........like GUI ....so & so. I'm still studying. It doesn't impress me anyway.
Your tests aren’t really relevant. Reminds me of that Top Gear episode where they had a BMW drafting off a Prius driving at top speed — it misses the point.
macOS Sequoia 16GB-512GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64.